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Wednesday, June 16th, 2021 9:06 PM

Live Poll: All-Time Coolest Sitcom Dad

Hello, poll forum, another idea for your consideration, feedback welcome, thank you.

Who is the coolest sitcom dad?

For an uncropped view of the images see the slides here.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls505780865/

                

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Will you consider the following animated dads?

Homer Simpson, The Simpsons (1989– )

Beef Tobin, The Great North (2021– )

Bob Belcher, Bob's Burgers (2011– )

Frank Murphy, F Is for Family (2015–2021)

Elliot Birch, Big Mouth

These might be a stretch for the sitcom definition. At least it could get an honorary mention for cool fathers.

George And Lance, She-Ra and the Princesses of Power

Lio Oak, Kippo and the Age of Wonderbeasts 

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FYC

Nigel Thornberry, The Wild Thornberrys

Oscar Proud, Proud Family

Dave Seville, Alvin & The Chipmunks

Professor Utonium, Powerpuff Girls

Hank Hill, King of the Hill

Drake Mallard, Darkwing Duck

I promise these will be the last ones I nominate.

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@Tsarstepan​ 

Thank you, I included the ones with images.👍 Please check if the images are correct.

I'm not sure I'll keep Homer Simpson... it would be a landslide victory in the poll.

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You're not a fan of Malcolm in the Middle, are you? :)

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@ElMaruecan82​ 

I added Hal Wilkerson.

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@mariojacobs​ 

Just Hal, actually. The name Wilkerson is never mentioned (just shown in the pilot). By the way, I really encourage to watch the show if you never did, it's a real milestone that paved the way to all the wacky laugh-track less sitcoms of the early 2000s and Bryan Cranston is extraordinary in it. That said, I'm not too sure I would agree on the picture you've chosen as it doesn't really exude the zaniness of the character.

Now, since the feedback is welcome, allow me to make a few suggestions:

- Image polls are tricky because you start by picking pictures and then you scroll down the choices, you realize they don't have the same format or resolution, well it's no big deal in the great scheme of things but there's nothing wrong in suggesting a few improvements.

I think from the very start, you should know what kind of pictures you'd pick and if I were you, I would avoid still frames except if they're the only ones available, look at your 'Al Bundy' picture, not only the resolution of the picture is very low but we don't even see him... 

A publicity picture would look better...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092400/mediaviewer/rm3757306881/

Or maybe a still frame where you have a proper view on the character:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092400/mediaviewer/rm4243782144/

(but the older the show, the lower the quality is likely to be)

Now if you pick  still frames, the question is: should you include pictures with the character alone? Or the character (here, a Dad) interacting with a family member? Should it be a picture showing how cool he is? Or any random picture?

Anyway, let's put that in order, in my opinion, for each show try to focus on a picture that doesn't show the father in a special position, you can find it in the publicity / poster section... and you can have a ensemble view on the photo gallery if you click on the actor's name.

I know it takes time... maybe it's easy for me to say because I'm not that prolific, if I suggested 10 polls a week I guess I wouldn't feel concerned by these technicalities, anyway it's precisely because I find good potential for this poll, not trying to lecture anyone :)

Oh and FYC: Tony Danza in "Who's the Boss?"

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@ElMaruecan82

indeed you are right, thank you for your suggestions, I will gradually improve the presentation of the list. I am even thinking of splitting it into sitcoms and cartoons dads...  Now I am working on MADtv (Saturday Night Live rival), watching all 15 seasons.

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2 years ago

Could you consider Red Forman from That 70's Show? He was scary as hell but pretty cool

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@Cherganski​ 

included 👍

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Mario, you have 36 options, you need to delete one.

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Obviously, get rid of some of the weaker choices, like Darrin Stephensand others. I feel there are some stronger and more iconic sitcom Dad options missing like Ward Cleaver, Jr. from "Leave It to Beaver", Phil Dunphy from "Modern Family", Christopher‘JULIUS’ Rock II from "Everybody Hates Chris", Peter Griffin from "Family Guy", Stan Smith from "American Dad", Frank Constants from "Seinfeld", and Dre Johnson from "Black-ish".

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@mariojacobs​ That was a good idea, so you have poll suggestion in the bank for next Father's day. I had other suggestions, many of them cartoon dads, that I wanted to make. But, you were already pushing the limit of maximum number answer options.

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Grandpa

Was he the father of Lilly or Herman Munster. I don't remember. But I remember he was a cool father figure.

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@Breumaster​ He was Lily's father.

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@mariojacobs​ 

Thank you. He was cool, wasn't he?

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@Breumaster​ one of mine favorite sitcoms

https://youtu.be/DofPu4rPJZU?t=76

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Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/ZeSbxy6Ss2g/

Congratulations Mario

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Mario, the character name is missing in #23.

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@dan_dassow​ 

indeed, Lost in Space is not a sitcom per se, I forgot about this.

Nevertheless, it is one of my favorite TV shows. I love the interaction between Dr. Smith and the Robot.

The first season in black&white is very serious, Dr Smith is really evil and scary. But the season is boring.

The same degeneration happened to Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. The first season in black&white has amazing plots. Very intelligent script. I recommend.

I read somewhere that those shows decided to go the comedy path to attract a more young audience.

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Who is this ??

Media preview

Quick look at Names and Titles
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls505780865/copy

Add this ? ?

Dennis the Menace (1959-1963)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052461/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052461/reference/

Television episodes built around the same sorts of incidents 
found in Hank Ketcham's long-running comic strip.

Herbert Anderson ...   Henry  Mitchell (146 episodes, 1959-1963)
Jay North              ...   Dennis Mitchell (146 episodes, 1959-1963)


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052461/mediaviewer/rm2814821120

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace_(U.S._comics)

Dennis the Menace is a daily syndicated newspaper comic strip 
originally created, written, and illustrated by Hank Ketcham.
It debuted on March 12, 1951

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@ACT_1​ 👍added, have any suggestion for cartoon dads?

My suggestion are too old, nobody will care...

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls565227408/copy

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@mariojacobs​ 

Sorry, I do not watch cartoons 

Maybe do a list of car tunes ??

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@dan_dassow​,

I agree there are dozens of ways to have a more focused cool dads comparison and humongous pool to choose from. Especially, ones that should be compared against each other from the same era. Your could do modern dads (TV or movies), modern animated dads (TV or movies), classic dads (TV or movies), and classic animated (TV or movies). You could even break it out by decade. It would be far more interesting to compare them by the period they were popular and fairer too.

You could use these dads as starting point.

TV Guide’s ’50 Greatest TV Dads of All Time’ (Jan 3, 2014)

1. Cliff Huxtable (The Cosby Show)
2. Ben Cartwright (Bonanza)
3. John Walton, Sr. (The Waltons)
4. Charles Ingalls (Little House on the Prairie)
5. Danny Williams (Make Room for Daddy)
6. Jim Anderson (Father Knows Best)
7. Steve Douglas (My Three Sons)
8. Andy Taylor (The Andy Griffith Show)
9. Howard Cunningham (Happy Days)
10. Ray Barone (Everybody Loves Raymond)
11. Reverend Eric Camden (7th Heaven)
12. Steven Keaton (Family Ties)
13. Dan Conner (Roseanne)
14. Mike Brady (The Brady Bunch)
15. Tom Corbett (Courtship of Eddie’s Father)
16. Alex Stone (The Donna Reed Show)
17. Forrest Bedford (I’ll Fly Away)
18. George Lopez (George Lopez)
19. Herman Munster (The Munsters)
20. Tim Taylor (Home Improvement)
21. Ozzie Nelson (The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet)
22. Rob Petrie (The Dick Van Dyke Show)
23. Tony Micelli (Who’s the Boss?)
24. Archie Bunker (All in the Family)
25. Sandy Cohen (The OC)
26. Doug Lawrence (Family)
27. Michael Kyle (My Wife and Kids)
28. Ward Cleaver (Leave it to Beaver)
29. Jack Bristow (Alias)
30. Chester A. Riley (Life of Riley)
31. Andy Sipowicz (NYPD Blue)
32. Lucas McCain (The Rifleman)
33. Tom Bradford (Eight is Enough)
34. Philip Banks (The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air)
35. Homer Simpson (The Simpsons)
36. Rick Sammler (Once and Again)
37. Jason Seaver (Growing Pains)
38. John Robinson (Lost in Space)
39. Martin Lane (The Patty Duke Show)
40. Will Girardi (Joan of Arcadia)
41. Jim Walsh (Beverly Hills, 90210)
42. Fred Sanford (Sanford and Son)
43. Andy Brown (Everwood)
44. George Jefferson (The Jeffersons)
45. Rocky Rockford (The Rockford Files)
46. Michael Steadman (thirtysomething)
47. Bernie Mac (Bernie Mac)
48. Paul Hennessy (8 Simple Rules)
49. Graham Chase (My So-Called Life)
50. Benjamin Sisko (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)

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Wow, thank you, how could I have missed some cool dads from TV series that I have indeed watched: Ben Cartwright and Charles Ingalls, for instance? I do not know all of the titles listed above. I added some names and gradually I'll include more cool dads from this roll. 

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ok, ok, now I know why I missed them: we were talking about sitcoms, I forgot about it...😁

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@mariojacobs ,

I suspect there may be a possibility of a Part 2 for this poll. I watched the last few minutes of The Courtship of Eddie's Father (1963) on TCM tonight. This reminded me of the sitcoms:

The Courtship of Eddie's Father (1969–1972) with Bill Bixby as the father Tom Corbett and Brandon Cruz as the son Eddie Corbett;

 

The Patty Duke Show (1963–1966) with William Schallert as the father Martin Lane;

Gidget (1965–1966) with Don Porter as the father Professor Russell Lawrence; and

The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis (1959–1963) with Frank Faylen  as the father Herbert T. Gillis.  

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@dan_dassow​ ok, thank you, now I started a new list and added some cool dads of my own

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls565451469/

             

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@mariojacobs​ ,

For your consideration:

Family Affair (1966–1971) with Brian Keith as father Uncle Bill Davis although Sebastian Cabot

as Mr. Giles French tends to be more like a father than Uncle Bill

Episodes:

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series)
Wyatt

- The Donation Oscillation (2019) ... Wyatt
- The Procreation Calculation (2018) ... Wyatt
- The Conjugal Conjecture (2016) ... Wyatt
- The Bachelor Party Corrosion (2015) ... Wyatt
- The Boyfriend Complexity (2010) ... Wyatt

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series): The Launch Acceleration (2012) with Casey Sander as Bernadette Rostenkowski's father Mike Rostenkowski

Episodes:

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series)
Mike Rostenkowski

- The Spock Resonance (2015) ... Mike Rostenkowski
- The Table Polarization (2014) ... Mike Rostenkowski
- The Thanksgiving Decoupling (2013) ... Mike Rostenkowski
- The Fish Guts Displacement (2012) ... Mike Rostenkowski
- The Countdown Reflection (2012) ... Mike Rostenkowski
- The Launch Acceleration (2012) ... Mike Rostenkowski

Episodes:

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series)
Dr. V.M. Koothrappali

- The Propagation Proposition (2019) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Wedding Gift Wormhole (2018) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Confidence Erosion (2017) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Allowance Evaporation (2017) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Dependence Transcendence (2016) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Graduation Transmission (2015) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Clean Room Infiltration (2014) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Transporter Malfunction (2012) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Wiggly Finger Catalyst (2011) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Infestation Hypothesis (2011) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Roommate Transmogrification (2011) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Herb Garden Germination (2011) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Guitarist Amplification (2009) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Monopolar Expedition (2009) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Griffin Equivalency (2008) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali
- The Grasshopper Experiment (2007) ... Dr. V.M. Koothrappali

Episodes:

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series)
Larry Fowler

- The Consummation Deviation (2018) ... Larry Fowler
- The Conjugal Configuration (2018) ... Larry Fowler
- The Bow Tie Asymmetry (2018) ... Larry Fowler

The Big Bang Theory (2007–2019) with Howard Wolowitz as a father towards the end of the series

The Big Bang Theory (TV Series): The Stockholm Syndrome (2019) with Johnny Galecki as an expectant father Leonard Hofstadter

Young Sheldon (2017– ) mentions that Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper  has a son, Leonard Cooper, who is the son of Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler.

Note: The fathers of the main cast of 'The Big Bang Theory'  could also function as a Face-Off poll.

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@mariojacobs​ ,

For your consideration:

Blossom (1990–1995) with Ted Wass  as Blossom Russo's father Nick Russo

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@dan_dassow​ 

>Note: The fathers of the main cast of 'The Big Bang Theory'  could also function as a Face-Off poll.

Suggestion accepted, thank you.

Would you believe that I have never watched ONE SINGLE episode of Big Bang Theory??? Roseanne is one of my favorite tv series, I watched the whole series at least twice: in English and dubbed in German (@Breumaster ).

I loved those 3 actors in Roseanne:

Sara Gilbert: Darlene Conner, 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094540/characters/nm0004960?ref_=tt_cl_c_5

Laurie Metcalf: Jackie Harris

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094540/characters/nm0582418?ref_=tt_cl_c_3

Johnny Galecki: David Healy

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094540/characters/nm0301959?ref_=tt_cl_c_7

I think Sandra Bernhard would have been a very cool secondary character in Big Bang Theory, perhaps as the mother of one of the main characters...

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@mariojacobs​ ,

The following fathers are great candidates for a your poll. Unfortunately, their shows are not sitcoms.

Ben Cartw Bonanza (1959–1973) is not a sitcom although there are comedic elements to the series. IMDb lists western as its genre.

John Walton, Sr.: The Waltons, is listed as Drama, Family, Romance.

Charles Ingalls: Little House on the Prairie is listed as Drama, Family, Romance.

Joseph 'Rocky' Rockford: The Rockford Files is listed as Crime, Drama, Mystery.

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@dan_dassow​ Indeed, I was carried away by the emotion of seeing that list. If you recognize any more sitcom dads from that urbanemovies' suggestion above, please tell me. 

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@mariojacobs​ ,

I believe you got all of the sitcoms from Urbanmovies' list. I will double check when I get a chance. We have a lot of time until Father's Day 2023.

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I would've picked Tim Allen if Home Improvement was there

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@rob_webster​ thank you, added to the part II list.

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@rob_webster​ I was thinking Tim Allen belonged on the list for Home Improvement too. But, I think it is fair to restrict the poll to single listing and he appears for Last Man Standing already.