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Tuesday, February 7th, 2017

Live Poll: Film-Noir Directors

Film-Noir: Typically features dark, brooding characters, corruption, detectives, and the seedy side of the big city. Almost always shot in black and white, American, and set in contemporary times (relative to shooting date). 

Which of these filmmakers do you feel best handled (as a director in a movie) the Film-Noir genre?

List: (Part: I) http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074312149/
Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/bS3SHzyul1w/

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Bump

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Peru,

Thanks for the bump.

This is now more than 2 years old PS. I suggested it first on July 12, 2015 at the old poll board. Didn't get picked in 2 years...

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DC,

No problem, film-noir is my all-time favorite genre and I've always thought that it deserves more love on the poll-side of IMDb. 2 years is pretty nuts but keep the hope, perhaps this one will surprise you.

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9 years ago

I was looking for Edward Dmytryk, I would think he would crack the top 25 or higher for a true film-noir fans. I can live with Fritz Lang though from the available option, which is a pretty good list.

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Bump!

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Almost always shot in black and white, American, and set in contemporary times (relative to shooting date).
Do you mean the movies are set in America? Perhaps you could rephrase this sentence a bit.

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Gigi,

The following is IMDb's official definition of 'Film-Noir' genre.

Film-Noir: Typically features dark, brooding characters, corruption, detectives, and the seedy side of the big city. Almost always shot in black and white, American, and set in contemporary times (relative to shooting date). 

I don't have the official link right now.

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The "American" reference is confusing, I think, for two reasons: 1) the meaning itself is unclear. Does it mean done by American studios? made by American filmmakers? set in America? And I also wonder if any of those are accurate. 2) the syntax. Syntactically, it would be easy to improve upon if we knew what "American" means. If it means made my American studios, for instance, I'd suggest "Generally American films, they are almost always shot in black and white and set in contemporary times, relative to shooting date." Of course, I'm not sure that "Generally American films" is what iMDb means by that or if it's accurate.

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Gigi and Suji,

I have got the official IMDb link.

Please see here - https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/genres/GZDRMS6R742JRGAG?ref_=helpart_nav_32#noir

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It's unfortunate that it is so poorly written that even the meaning is not at all clear. Oh, well. 

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How about this?

According to the Oxford Dictionary, film-noire is "a style or genre of cinematographic film marked by a mood of pessimism, fatalism, and menace. The term was originally applied (by a group of French critics) to American thriller or detective films made in the period 1944–54 and to the work of directors such as Orson Welles, Fritz Lang, and Billy Wilder." IMDb adds that it "typically features dark, brooding characters, corruption, detectives, and the seedy side of the big city," and is "almost always shot in black and white ... and set in contemporary times (relative to shooting date)."

That combines the most respected dictionary of the English dictionary with the great details described by IMDb, omits the problematic syntax, and clearly explains the "American" reference. 

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Ruby,

This is an excellent, well written introduction. It's clear, informative and to the point.

DC,

I strongly encourage you to adopt the intro that Ruby wrote. It will significantly enhance your poll suggestion.

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Thanks. I have added Suzy's suggestion.

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DC,

Thanks for adding Ruby's suggestion. Your poll suggestion is much strong as a result.

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Definitely gotta go with Fritz Lang

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Congratulations Dibyayan_Chakravorty on your 358th live poll! As of 8-Feb-2018 8:26 PM Pacific your polls have 997,154 or more votes, for an average of 2,785 votes per poll.

Film-Noir Directors
6155th Live Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/bS3SHzyul1w/

This is the 775th People poll. Such polls have a total of 1,446,678 votes for an average of 1,867 votes per poll.
Total Number of Votes			14,396,607
Projected Date of 15 Million Votes	20-May-2018
Days Until 15 Million Votes		100
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Only 3,000 votes to go...please give me one Home Page poll at this moment. I just can't wait any longer...!!!

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See,  "Good things come to those who wait" Congratulations

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Wait, does it work if we ask nicely? Can I have a homepage poll, too? pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase...
i'll do anything... I said *anything*
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It's true but I would nuance it a bit.
If You Ask, You May Get
If You Don't, You Won't... unless you have a way of not asking that makes people get what you want to get, sometimes the subtext works.

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I agree being subtle can be effective. My point is, it made me think of a basic sales axiom that is true of a lot things, hence the hyperlink. It obviously can work against you, if you ask so much that your annoying. I say good for him, especially if this is a poll he cares about.

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I was just toying with the sentence but in absolute terms, it is right. You have to ask to get. It's just how you read the word "ask", your point about being annoying is true, the problem is that the simple fact of 'asking', in some contexts, can betray a needy attitude... which is not good. I take the word 'ask', as "asserting the obviousness of the next step (getting) in non-obvious terms"...

You've got to ask without asking, I think it's an intellectual process but not without an emotional/affective (and effective) approach.

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Calm down guys. It was on the home page for less than 24 hours and I don't think the editorial team saw my above post.

And most importantly they don't select home page polls according to what we wish.

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We know that, DC. You sent a message with humor, we replied to it with humor. That's all.

But now having said that, I don't get why the poll was for less than 24 hours.

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I don't know. Maybe the editorial team prefer polls on new and upcoming topic to that on old classic subjects.

Also, I guess that may be the reason your awesome polls don't get featured on home page.

Proof? Check out my home page poll FAQ. When was the last time a poll on old classic subject published on home page?

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I liked that "film noir" poll, I'm a film noir buff and I was pleasantly surprised that for once an old poll with an "unglamorous" or "timely" aspect would be picked, that's why I was surprised it didn't last for long. Seems like we're back to the usual "stuff" (not to diminish today's HP poll of course :))

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This is the 63rd time my poll has been featured at IMDb Home Page (http://www.imdb.com) since July 28, 2015.

06 March 2018: Film-Noir Directors - http://www.imdb.com/poll/bS3SHzyul1w/ (A poll by Dibyayan_Chakravorty)


Poll Author - Number of Polls Featured at IMDb Home Page (Since July 28, 2015) 


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urbanemovies - 29
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Rafael_M - 15
KhaledKalache - 13
Simba63 - 13
IMDb-Editors - 13
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Why exclude Anthony Mann?
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John Boulting,  Henri-George Clouzot, Jean-Pierre Melville, Jacques Becker - as nearly always US centered.

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Fritz Lang.