IMDb Redesigns List-Like Pages

I also don't understand why the metascore is so prominent. I'm on IMDb, not metascore... 

Indeed.

Another problem, not related to polls, it is very hard to navigate if you have lists with hundreds of entries, if you want to go lets say to entry #756 in a list with 2,000 entries, you have to click a lot to get there, instead of the previous format with pagination which was more friendly, also, in the previous case, if you click to see the comments and then you close the image, you go back to the #1 entry on your list instead of the number you were working with.

@Pencho15​ 

Another thing, they changed to new design but didn't even bother to allowed us to see fonts in colors in our lists.  

We want our old lists design back!!! @Col_Needham​ 

@Boromir​ From https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/track-movies-tv/lists-faq/GNQMN47VZSE7KW38 

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What text formatting can I use in my list descriptions?

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which colours or fonts are not supported? 

@Col_Needham​ 

The formatting works, but when we use color tags, it's no longer possible to see the colors in list format (it used to be possible). The colors only show up once the list becomes a poll.

@Jessica​ Please can you provide the URL of a public list (or two) which use these tags as you describe?

@Col_Needham​ 

List URL: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls082726558/

Poll URL: https://www.imdb.com/poll/fV1RV7bUE2E/

List URL: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls561139420/

Poll URL: https://www.imdb.com/poll/3nGbZtoTI-c/

@Jessica​ Thanks, so on https://www.imdb.com/list/ls082726558/ here's how the first entry in the list looks in the OLD list interface:

which matches the NEW one, we are therefore unsure of the problem?  Others entries are the same -- this does not appear to be a change with this launch, and this was not raised during the extensive public beta period either.  Are we missing something here?  

@Col_Needham​ 

Correct, this was not a change with this launch, but happened several years ago.

I guess the real question is: is it possible to restore the visibility of colors in lists?

@Jessica​ Thanks ... 

I guess the real question is: is it possible to restore the visibility of colors in lists?

We can pass this request along to the lists team for future consideration.

@Col_Needham​ 

Thank you.

@Col_Needham​ 

Let's begin by stating that our comments were focused on much MORE important aspects than color. I used color as an example to illustrate that no improvements were made from the previous version. However, if you prefer to compare with the old version, the colors worked well in the old old design.    

I still waiting for answer to my 3 points:

1. When editing, you can't see the full text without clicking on the specific option.
2. You have to expand the description every time you want to write text.
3. The pictures are arranged inconveniently for counting, and they are asymmetrically placed.

I can't see the whole text unless clicking on the specific option:

and we need to go back to 5 photos in each row, and with the same size, NOT like this: 

Hi @Boromir​ -

Thank you for your feedback. We are investigating how best to display the description full text in edit mode.

Hi @Pencho15​ -

Thank you for this feedback. We are currently investigating improvements to the navigation of large lists, such as the addition of list search and pagination.

@Michelle​ Thanks, when you figure that out, that would also come in handy for vote histories. those are thousands of entries and its quite hard to find something specific without pagination.

@Michelle​ 

Thank you Michelle, the description full text in edit mode is very very important. Without it we can't continue to creates lists and polls. 

Second, you still didn't responded about the photos part. The old design with the 5 photos each raw in the same size is more practical for list makers.  

@Michelle​ 

" We are investigating how best to display the description full text in edit mode."

Any news about that?

@dwhite1144​ This feature is still available -- the same watch options are available via the [filter] icon to the left of the "Sort by" menu at the top of the list. You will need to scroll down a little to reach the "Where to Watch" section ...

Hope this helps. 

@Col_Needham​ While I do appreciate the tip, and I do find it helpful, I do not think this is better considering it is one of my main uses for IMDB.  It is MUCH easier to have the streaming information present in the details of the lists.

@dwhite1144​ Thanks for clarifying.  You can access the watch offers on an individual title via the “(i)” icon to the right of the card for each title.  For example,

as in:

Also, if you switch your list to grid view, there’s a more convenient “Watch Options” button under each item, click the “nine dots” icon at the top of the list:

Hope this helps. 

@dwhite1144​  I have never thought IMDB was very useful for finding where movies are streaming, mostly because they don't include many streaming services. For that specific purpose, I believe JUSTWATCH is better.

Thank you for the tip, my point about not having to click the i icon on every title seemed to be missed.  I will definitely be checking out the other site.  THANKS!

@MSebring​ This depends on which country you are located.  Our coverage is best in the US and we are always looking to expand in other countries. 

I live in the US. The Streaming services I use include Netflix, Prime Video, Disney+, Hulu, Max, Paramount+, The Criterion Channel, Kanopy, Watch TCM, Peacock, The Roku Channel, Tubi, Shout Factory, Plex, and FreeVee. Only a handful of those are mentioned in the streaming options displayed on IMDB. JUSTWATCH displays dozens more besides those.

I love and have grown to depend on the IMDB list feature, but I pretty much ignore the streaming services recommendation part because there are other services (e.g. JUSTWATCH and REELGOOD) that do that better.

@List_o_mania​ Thanks for the feedback.  As mentioned in the FAQ, we are looking at how large lists (100+ items) are paginated or can be searched.  This is both in edit and view mode.  

In the meantime, for large lists you may find the IMDb mobile apps better suited for your needs.  I frequently edit lists with 1,000-8,000+ items on the iOS app.  The latest version of the Android app now better supports list editing.  

Hope this helps. 

Some of your users (like myself) do not use mobile devices.
Many people still prefer to use personal computers to access internet applications

because of their superior internet interface.

I personally think it would have been better to resolve these problems before implementing
the new version to avoid impacting PC users with large lists.

@MSebring​ 

Moreover, I believe most people created lists using their laptop and not mobile devices.

I'm sorry to be complaining so much, but this redesign has made editing lists nearly impossible. The drag method of moving items up and down the list simply does not work on a long list. There is too much information on the page for the feature to work properly. I have a computer with incredibly high RAM, so I can't imagine how much worse this feature is for most users. I can't just type in the number I want the item to go to because it's difficult to even scroll up the page, and even if it wasn't, that would require reloading the page every time I needed to move an entry.

This redesign is fundamentally broken for any long list. I understand that the endless scroll method is the direction the site has decided to go in, but I highly recommend reversing this change, at least until you can deliver a version of this design that works properly. I know I'm probably screaming into the void here, but if you actually do take user feedback into account, please listen to this and any other complaints you receive. All that you're going to achieve with this change is to drive users away from the site.

@List_o_mania​

Why is the bar to add names at the very top when the name is added at the bottom?

Thanks for the feedback.  If you want the new items to appear at the top, please flip the list order in edit mode to newest first via the arrows at the top (to the right of the “Sort by” menu):

Also as mentioned in the FAQ: 

Hope this helps. 

@Col_Needham​ That solution would mean I have to edit my list entirely backwards, which is not really a solution.

@List_o_mania​  Thanks for the feedback … 

The drag method of moving items up and down the list simply does not work on a long list. There is too much information on the page for the feature to work properly. I have a computer with incredibly high RAM, so I can't imagine how much worse this feature is for most users. I can't just type in the number I want the item to go to because it's difficult to even scroll up the page, and even if it wasn't, that would require reloading the page every time I needed to move an entry.

We are unsure what you mean here, sorry.  Based on feedback from the beta testing, the edit feature should place you in the old editing interface if you are editing a large list (100+ items).  If this is not the case, please provide the URL of the list affected and ideally a screen-grab.  

On lists with less than 100 items (ie: the new editing interface), there are two ways to reorder the items as described in the FAQ:

If the drag-and-drop is not performing smoothly, we recommend following the steps on https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/common-issues/why-is-imdb-displaying-differently-on-my-browser/GF2ZAR69V859XLHF, especially trying different browsers.  In all of our tests, it performs well across a number of systems of varying scale and power.  Note that the speed of the drag-and-drop is deliberately under your control so if dragging an item off the top or bottom of the screen is slower, try moving your mouse cursor lower or higher on the page, as appropriate for faster movement. 

Hope this helps.

The edit page does not appear in the old format in Google Chrome. It does work on Edge at least, so thank you for informing me.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls528693051/edit

@List_o_mania​ Only a certain percentage of customers (and web browsers) see the new version at the moment.  This is part of the normal testing and roll-out process, so it is possible for one of your browsers to be on the old version and one on the new.  However, whichever version you are accessing, if you edit a list with 100+ items then you ALWAYS get the old edit interface. 

Hi @MSebring​ -

Thank you for your feedback. We are currently investigating improvements to the navigation of large lists, such as the addition of list search and pagination.

@MSebring​ No, it is still live, however, only a certain percentage of customers (and web browsers) see the new version at the moment.   This is part of the normal testing and roll-out process. 

It is possible for the same person to see either version across different browsers/systems or even by logging out/in on the same device and browser.  

Hope this helps. 

When I saw the new version yesterday I assumed that it was a live production implementation.

Hi @Navin2000​ -

Thank you for your feedback. We are currently investigating improvements to the navigation of large lists, such as the addition of list search and pagination.

@Michelle​ 

Hi Michelle, I somehow missed this reply, it's such a horrible forum system, IMDB deserves better. And yes, pagination is a must have because these huge lists are the dumbest thing ever, very unhandy. And perhaps you guys can also implement a more compact view. I don't really like the new look wit the bigger movie posters. A zoom percentage of 85% to 90% would be nice.

@Michelle​ 

One of the reasons why it's so unhandy, is that I often mail people new versions of the list when I add movies or series. So then I can simply mail them the last 100 entries of the list for example. And it's always sorted by List order. So I hope you guys will soon implement pagination, it's a must have! And thanks to Rex_Ressel for the support buddy!

@Navin2000​ Please can you explain what you mean here:

I often mail people new versions of the list when I add movies or series. So then I can simply mail them the last 100 entries of the list for example

It is possible to send a link to people which will show them the most recent entries first.  For example, here’s my Watchlist which shows in list order with this link (really oldest added to newest) -> https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1000000/watchlist/ but if I want to flip the order and share it, all I need to do is click the arrows to the right of the “Sort by” and the URL updates to https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1000000/watchlist/?sort=list_order%2Cdesc which I can then share with others, and they too will see the most recently added first.   

Similarly if I wanted to share the same list by the number of votes -> https://www.imdb.com/user/ur1000000/watchlist/?sort=num_votes%2Cdesc

Are we missing something here? 

@Col_Needham​ 

Hi Col,

I think I understand what you mean. You can indeed simply change sort direction, but this means that entries are not in the order that I like. The newest additions should always be the last on the list, and this is simply not possible without pagination.

And to give an example of your list. The order that you added your last four entries were:

13: The Musical

Aftershock

To the End

Gentle

So personally I would like them to be listed in this exact order (from left to right), yet this is not the case obviously.

@Michelle​ 

BTW, can you give a time-frame of when pagination will be implemented? It's seriously so annoying. I mean I have a list of almost 1000 of my favorite movies, and when I add movies I can only see them by changing the list order. Or I will have to keep scrolling or course, which is kinda ridiculous.

@Col_Needham​ 

Did you understand my explanation of why I think pagination should be added? I do not want to reverse the list order just to be able to see the last titles that I added. I like to use the original sorting.

For example, like I mentioned, I have a list of almost 1000 of my favorite movies, and I had bookmarked 10 pages (entries 1-100, 100-200 etc.) but now I can't use those handy bookmarks anymore because of this silly continuous scrolling stuff.

@brianspike42​ 

Thanks for the reply, I wonder where Michelle and Col Needham went? Or perhaps they simply do not get any notification about my new posts, because this forum is horribly broken. 

But anyway, Michelle said they were looking into it, but I hope that it won't take months before they implement pagination. I can't understand they thought that continuous scrolling was an awesome idea, without any possible disadvantages. At least give an option to turn it off. And thanks Niall Hassett for the likes.

@Col_Needham​ 

Another major reason why continuous scrolling is a horrible idea for me, is because I always save my lists. Obviously a page with only 100 entries doesn't produce a big MHTML filesize, it's about 5 MB. But imagine having to save one huge list of 1000+ entries, it's way to heavy for most PC's and browsers having to load this.

Luckily, I saved my lists before IMDB changed the design. But when I make changes to my lists, I like to save them again, but now it's not a realistic option because of continuous scrolling. Can you imagine that when I want to save my lists in the normal list order (not reversed), I actually have to scroll 1000 entries before I get to the last added entries? Does this make any sense to you, know what I mean? I hope it doesn't.

@Michelle​ 

So what is the status of this? It's now months later, and still no sign of it. Of course I'm talking about the much requested pagination feature.

For example, I have made this list of 980 titles, and sometimes I want to quickly see entries 500 to 600, in the past you could bookmark this stuff, and navigate directly to these entries, but now you have to keep on scrolling.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls046424878/?sort=list_order%2Cdesc

@Michelle​ 

BTW, I made a separate topic, because this one is so cluttered, but it got closed. Very annoying, and I couldn't even find the post that I made, I mean in this huge thread.

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/disable-continuous-scrolling-on-imdb-pagination/66fd3ee63ef9b939468cda5e

@Col_Needham​ 

Hello, can you or Michelle perhaps answer my latest question? Or are we just going to ignore the fact that after months, you guys still have not implemented the pagination feature? I mean how difficult can it be?

I would like to add the problem of seeing a truncated notes field when using the new editor to my list of problems that should be addressed. I hadn't noticed that myself yet, but it would make editing some of my lists difficult because it would limit my ability to use the Find command to find data within my notes fields.

Hi @MSebring​ -

Thank you for your feedback. We are happy you like the filter feature and additional ways to change list order.  We are currently investigating improvements to the navigation of large lists, such as the addition of list search and pagination. We are also evaluating options to add titles from both the top and bottom of the page.

Hi @MSebring​ -

Thank you for your additional feeback regarding full text notes. We are investigating how best to improve this experience.

@Boromir​ Thanks for the problem report. Please provide links to these two lists and we will take a look at the bug behind this. 

@Col_Needham​ 

it's more than a two lists: 

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079973746/?ref_=uspf_t_89

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls031186065/?ref_=uspf_t_83

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls033499668/?ref_=uspf_t_75

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063771584/?ref_=uspf_t_64

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls072123315/?ref_=uspf_t_56

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls061621857/?ref_=uspf_t_57

and many more..

ALL the lists with missing photos didn't work.

Few like "Quack Quack Quack" allegedly all the photos working but I still can't see my list:

https://www.imdb.com/poll/4i31qziw69M/?ref_=po_ho

@Boromir​ 

The full lists I don't have access to it now:

Who Is The Most Annoying Movie Character Ever?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls059995126/?ref_=uspf_t_32

What would you be willing to do to be a movie star?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls070012566/?ref_=uspf_t_16

Who Said School is Boring!
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls059915405/?ref_=uspf_t_100

IMDb Poll Board: Best Team of Heroes
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074252965/?ref_=uspf_t_97

IMDb Poll Board: Best Team of Heroes - Part 2
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074804290/?ref_=uspf_t_96

Potential Dictators in The Cartoon World
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079973746/?ref_=uspf_t_89

December It's not just Christmas
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls013337661/?ref_=uspf_t_87

20th Anniversary: Twelve Monkeys
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls031186065/?ref_=uspf_t_83

Males with Guns
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls031969784/?ref_=uspf_t_80

Ethnic diversity and The Academy: Agree or not?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls033568521/?ref_=uspf_t_79

Romance for Females? Action for Males?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls033499668/?ref_=uspf_t_75

Best Team of Female Heroes- Part 2
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls061636168/?ref_=uspf_t_66

Seventy Years of the Bikini (2000-2016)
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063771584/?ref_=uspf_t_64

Nudity in Films and You
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079024550/?ref_=uspf_t_58

I'm Addicted To...
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls072123315/?ref_=uspf_t_56

Most Memorable Opening Line from TV Series Theme Song- Part 2https://www.imdb.com/list/ls066553487/?ref_=uspf_t_55

Dogs are Man's Best Friend?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls061614233/?ref_=uspf_t_50

25 Common Threads in IMDb Movie Boards
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079356609/?ref_=uspf_t_45

I Wish They All Could Be Californication Girls
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079202798/?ref_=uspf_t_40

Which Animal Characters Do You Feel Most Sorry for ?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079329873/?ref_=uspf_t_30

Seventy Years of the Bikini
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls063520709/?ref_=uspf_t_25

'90s Girl Crushes (TV)
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls066187151/?ref_=uspf_t_15

From the Jukebox to the Cinema
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls079335419/?ref_=uspf_t_14

IMDb Poll Board: Females Characters As a Role Models
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls062732090/?ref_=uspf_t_12

Which Cartoon Characters Can Replace Human Characters?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls059991342/?ref_=uspf_t_96

Three Colors: Yellow
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls058734129/?ref_=uspf_t_89

IMDb Poll Board: Most Annoying Animated Characters
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls074202389/?ref_=uspf_t_71

Quack Quack Quack
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls061621857/?ref_=uspf_t_57

Which TV Characters Do You Feel Most Sorry For ?
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls545025264/?ref_=uspf_t_4

@Boromir 

Bottom line, most of us who chat on forums like this access IMDb and other sites 80%+ of the time from a notebook or desktop; but an ever-growing majority of the general population primarily or exclusively access the web from their phones, and that's what IMDb is catering for here.

@Boromir​ Thank you for all of the links.  Two examples would have been enough to trace the bug, but we appreciate the more exhaustive list. 

@Col_Needham​ 

Thank you, I seen the lists are now working. 

@NYVKE​ 
Unfortunately, the majority of the users of services like IMDB, Spotify, YouTube, etc. now are cell phone addicts who don't know how to use a PC and believe the internet is some sort of magic thing that their cell phone service provides for them. (One of my wife's friends contacts her cell phone service when she has a problem with Facebook. After all, they were the ones who installed that app on her phone for her.)  Also unfortunately, as you mentioned, it is these casual users that these services now cater to because they are the majority. They may or may not recognize what Boromir was getting at: that these casual users are not the ones who use functionality like the IMDB list feature. They aren't the ones who create IMDB lists or Spotify or YouTube playlists. The ones who do that are the more advanced users: the list-makers, the historians, the true film and music fanatics. But these services don't care as much about those users anymore, because they are the minority now. That's why when they redesign something like the IBMD list feature, they don't care about degrading functionality or making the feature more difficult to use for the users who actually use it. What matters to them is cosmetic changes that make the feature more visually impressive and easier to use for the casual users who don't use the more advanced features anyway.

The reason that services like IMDB, Spotify, and YouTube get away with constantly making changes that many of their users don't want is they have far superior databases than any of their competitors. This gives them sort of a monopoly which makes it unnecessary for them to try to please their users. Many of their users are dissatisfied but they don't leave simply because they currently can't find a better alternative. Personally though, I think they should learn a lesson from MySpace. MySpace was a popular social media platform about fifteen years ago. It looked great, was easy to use, and their users loved it. But then they decided to totally redesign it. They turned it into a piece of dung that their users hated. And about that time Facebook came along. Now MySpace is pretty much dead. Does anyone here remember it?

Hi @whyimdbwhy​ -

Thank you for the feedback, this is something we will evaluate as a future addition. 

Please also consider adding the streaming service to the detail view, PLEASE.

Hi @dwhite1144​ -

Thank you for the feedback, this is something we will evaluate as a potential future addition. 

Hi @Jessica​ -

Thank you for your feedback. We are currently investigating ways improve the discovery of other people's lists. 

@Michelle​ 

Any update?