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Tuesday, March 21st, 2023 6:51 AM

Live Poll: Top 250 Films With Women in the Lead

​​​​​​​Link: ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​https://www.imdb.com/list/ls048015385/ ​​​​​​​

​​​​​​​Poll: ​​https://www.imdb.com/poll/BzJvv96cEzc/?ref_=po_ti​

​​​​​​​Every March, many people throughout the world celebrate Women's History Month. Women's history in cinema has been mixed: while it has often been a force for positive change, women have been underrepresented both behind and in front of the camera. For example, for decades women have filled less than one third of speaking roles and represent less than one third of named characters in movies. The movies below, however, have propelled our culture forward by featuring female leads. ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​Below are the movies from IMDb's Top 250 in which women or girls are the lead characters. Instead of choosing your favorite movie, which film boasts the strongest female lead?​​​​​​​

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ps: If you have a live poll, from any year, that you made for Women's History Month or International Women's Day, let me know and I'll try to include a link to it (either directly in the intro of this poll or in a list of such polls that is linked from this poll if it goes live). 

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@rubyfruit76​ ,

If I get a chance, I will look. Unfortunately, this weekend looks like it could be extremely busy.

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@dan_dassow​ Thanks, Dan. 'No hurry. I can always add them if one of you don't mind doing a re-push -- if this goes live, that is. And some of them will probably be caught by IMDb's "Related Polls" A.I. 

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Please, do not list them in the poll, as it is too much. But, I will make note here of my Inspirational Women Biopics series.

​​​​​​Women's History Month Companion Polls​​​​​​​​​​​​ ​​​​​​​​​​​​Leader Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Trailblazer Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Humanitarian Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Sports Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Writer Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Singer/Musician Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Visual Artist Biopics​​​​​​​​​​​​ : ​​​​​​​​​​​​Performance Artist Biopics​​​​​​ : Scientist Biopics

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I don't think they would feel out of place in the list, even if they're debatable.

The Exorcist might qualify.

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@Peter_pbn​ That's a very good point -- that even if they're debatable, they don't seem out of place. I actually started with ten that were questionable, The Exorcist included, but most of those were "questionable" only because I hadn't see them. My brother, who has seen an awful lot of movies, helped me narrow it down. What was left was what he didn't see or remember well enough. 

I guess what I'll do is include them in the list so that if any of you want to push it, it'll be ready, and then if anyone really disputes a film, I can revisit it. 

Thanks Peter -- that was a great suggestion that also simplifies things. 

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FYI, My tally shows only 36 out 250 (14.5%) top films have females as the dominant (25) or as an equal lead (11) character in the movie, far worse than 30% you cite generally for speaking roles or named characters. 

FYC, here are some more Top250 movies you should consider listing. I think Gone Girl, The Excorist and Sunset Blvd. are the ones I think are ones that are the most debatable, IMHO. Million Dollar Baby is the least debatable among the roles I consider co-leading characters.

79. Princess Mononoke

Mononoke (lead)

110. To Kill a Mockingbird 

Scout (Scout daughter lead or father co-lead)

113. A Separation (2011)

(couple co-lead)

 125. Dangal (2016)

(sisters/father co-leads)

 179. Before Sunrise (1995)

(couple co-lead)

185. Gone Girl (2014)

(couple co-lead)

199. Mary and Max (2009)

(co-lead)

220. Before Sunset (2004)

(couple co-lead)

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@urbanemovies​ 

Princess Mononoke follows a male character for most of the story.

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@Peter_pbn​ Thanks, my mistake. It has been a while since I have seen it and I only saw it once. It actually works out, as it eliminates the 36th option, if we all agree on the other 35 possibilities as being near equal or lead characters that feature women.

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I took a shot at your introduction trying to maintain your positive tone, but still sounding the alarm as to the seriousness of the issue. If want to use parts or all of it feel free. I did it mostly as exercise for myself to practice my writing skills.

FYC,

Every March, Women's History Month and/or International Women's Day are celebrated nearly worldwide. The history of equality for women in cinema has been a mixed bag. At times, it has been a force for positive change, such as depicting inspirational females for women and girls to look up to as role models. At other times, it has been part of the greater problem with females being vastly underrepresented, both behind and in front of the camera. The most glaring visible example is the casting of women and girls in film. For decades, less than a third of speaking roles have gone to women and less than a third of named characters are women in movies. As of March 2023, only thirty-six films listed on IMDb's Movie Top 250 portray a female lead or co-lead character. Despite these films only representing 14.5% of the IMDb Top 250, they are still a positive step in the right direction, because they are exemplary examples of the power strong female characters can have in film.

Instead of choosing your favorite movie, choose the IMDb Top 250 movie you feel boasts the strongest female lead?

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O? Okay...

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Hi Urb, thanks for your feedback. As for your list of FYC suggestions, I decided before I finished the list not to include any films in which there was a male co-lead unless it could be reasonably argued that the female was actually the only lead. For one, when I first did this list, it took the list over 35 movies, and also I really wanted solo female leads, if possible, since there are so many solo male leads.   I did include Sunset Boulevard, I think. Wow, I say that as if I couldn't check, lol... And, oh, you provided a screen shot of my list. : ) Do you think that I shouldn't include the ones that you marked with a "co-lead?" Those were mainly the ones I originally had listed as questionable and was requesting feedback about. I thought Peter's comment made a lot of sense, though, so I decided to include them and stop worrying about it unless someone felt strongly that any really don't belong. 

Oh, so do you think I should cut Million Dollar Baby? I saw it so long ago that my memory is fuzzy. Swank is first billed on IMDb but that doesn't necessarily mean that she was the lead, of course, so I really don't know: l'll go with what you think. 

Thanks, again, for the help. 

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​If the standard is  

"I decided before I finished the list not to include any films in which there was a male co-lead, unless it could be reasonably argued that the female was actually the only lead." 

I think Rebecca has co-leads, but Rebecca is clearly the more dominant character over Maxim. Also, in Million Dollar Baby has co-leads, but Swank who plays Maggie, is clearly the dominant lead. I also think in To Kill a Mockingbird has co-leads, but Mary Badham, who plays Scout is the dominant lead. In all three, these stories revolve around the female character for the most part, IMHO.

In The Excorcist, Sunset Boulevard, The Professional, and Mad Max: Fury Road, I think the female character is slightly behind the male character on most metrics. But, it is so close, it really is a tough call to make and I could understand if the actual data showed the female character had more lines or screen time or another metric. I have no problem with their inclusion, based on both their toss-up status and your reasonably arguement clause. If you were to make a co-lead concession, those are the first four that should make the list. I also think Mary and Max is worth a second look for your list.

"I decided to include them and stop worrying about it unless someone felt strongly that any really don't belong."

I listed my take just to share my thoughts, if you do not label some of these as co-leads (or we simply have different definitions) or make some really close calls differently than I would. I can respect that and I don't think you are wrong or would say I feel strongly about these cases, which are true judgement calls.

Also, I can see where you drew the line, but I am having a hard time understanding how #110. To Kill a Mockingbird  and #199. Mary and Max (2009) didn't qualify for the list, when The Excorcist, Sunset Boulevard, The Professional, and Mad Max: Fury Road did. They seem to me all about the same to me, as far as being tough calls to make or the being in same neighborhood at least.

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@rubyfruit76​ Million Dollar Baby's Hillary Swank as should definitely stay, as I would call Maggie Fitzgerald the main character in the movie. I think is it fair to call Eastwood a co-lead, because he has his own Frankie storyline too and he was Oscar-nominated for Best Actor. But, the two are not equal leads with Swank being the more dominant lead of the two.

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Too bad The Hunt, starring Betty Gilpin, isn't in the Top 250. For some reason, observing the reference to Million Dollar Baby reminded me of Hilary Swank's more recent work.

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@urbanemovies​ 

I think Rebecca has co-leads, but Rebecca is clearly the more dominant character over Maxim.

A misstatement perhaps, but Rebecca is the former wife who does not appear in the film.

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@Peter_pbn​ Thanks

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I'm content with the list. Thank you, Peter and Urb, very much: your feedback was very helpful. 

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Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/BzJvv96cEzc/

Congratulations Sara

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