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@ACT_1​ American Graffiti - Blond in T-bird

@jeorj_euler 😀

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Birth Date between 1940 and 1950
62,439 names.

Birth Date between 1900 and 1920

56,969 names.

ACT_1
Monday, October 16th, 2023
Born Died Dates ??

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Well, I was inquiring about people born within the first two decades of the start of the twentieth century. I think there are no surviving people from that era, and surely if there are, then they are probably using wheelchairs to get around or just stay in bed most of every day.

What is up with the anachronistic deaths?

@jeorj_euler​ and you would probably close to being right. Do the math. If you were born in 1923, your age would be ether 99 or 100. A handful who have died this year who were born in 1919 were 104. How many people you know are that old? In fact, if someone was born in 1929, they be ether 94 or 93. How many do you think are still living? That would be the interesting question. But then you were talking about the first 2 decades, aka 1900 to 1920. With the few that died this year, and they were over 100, I would guess pretty near all.

Well, in another thread, a while back, I mentioned the death of somebody close to me, but I didn't mention that the person belonged to the earlier end of the Silent Generation, and survived by an older sibling as I understand it. So, the eldest oldtimers are slowly or perhaps rapidly fading away. I was recently reading an article, probably written a couple of years ago, about how nobody belonging Silent Generation has ever served as president of the United States, and so how basically none ever will. Look at Ron Paul. He is rather healthy for his age, but I can tell he probably wouldn't have the strength regularly to do a lot of walking (up and down stairs), waving, smiling or giving speeches more than an hour long, and making fast important decisions (if in the unlikely event needed). I think he had some kind of mild stoke, on air, a while back too, that he survived no worse for the wear. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, no human has ever lived longer than 120 years, or perhaps even 115 years for that matter. Even with most of the body parts in decent shape, something inevitably happens to the central nervous system, that the signals that tell the heart to keep beating, or the lungs expanding/contracting, cut out at some point, if not irreversible loss of appetite happening.

@jeorj_euler​ 

True, but one did. A french, Jeanne Calment, died at age 122:

List of the verfied oldest people (English wikipedia)

O, wow. I should've looked that up ahead of time. Interesting.

@Breumaster​ 

she was even humanity's oldest rapper. She published a rap album at 121 years old. 

Here is an excerpt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSDGB2dX-o\

@Maxence_G​ 😀

Jeanne Louise Calment
Born February 21, 1875 · Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, France
Died August     4, 1997 · Arles, Bouches-du-Rhône, France 

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@Maxence_G​ 

Still had no time to watch it, but surely will do. :D

@jeorj_euler​ 

I hope that Clint Eastwood reaches 120. He is too cool to die!

Still hope he will make some more movies, but also understand, if he wants to retire.

♥ Clint Eastwood for President ♥

Yeah, Clint Eastwood is the man. I could see him coming back one more time for a Grand Torino type of flick, but I wouldn't need anymore of the Spaghetti Wild West chronicles of the Man with No Name. I have mixed feelings about Harry Callahan, since my belief is that when a cop decided to become a vigilante, he should return his badge to the department, and if the department isn't deserving of the honor then the badge destroyed.

@jeorj_euler​ 😀

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khadafimahfud8
Thursday, October 19th, 2023
Poll Suggestion: Clint Eastwood's Collaboration With Movie Stars
Who is the luckiest movie star to work with Clint Eastwood in the film he directed?
List: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls523504221/

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/poll-suggestion-clint-eastwoods-collaboration-with-movie-stars/6530fed2dcce244056305d8b

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@jeorj_euler​ 

If I was an American, I'd be a democrat.

♥ Joe ♥

But if it the next president will be republican, I'd hope he would be the kind of Clint Eastwood.

The whole world needs a stable and intelligent president in the U.S. of A. in that situation at the moment. What happens around the world can turn into a very bad rumble, worse than the second one ... by ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... :[

Mm, I try not to think about it. A lot of "our" special operations are carried out independent of the input of the executive branch proper (the one run by the cabinet whose members are managed by the president), definitely one of numerous modern detours from what was agreed upon and specified in back in 1789; the point being that most of the time it doesn't really matter who is in office, but of course, lifetime appointments and recess appointments are a big deal, because judges aren't guaranteed to decide the outcome of disputes based purely upon qualifying evidence/logic presented to them, since we're all free to have diverging world views and even take those views to work in public sector occupations.

@jeorj_euler​ with Dirty Harry, according to an interview with the man who created him, it criminals own political leanings you have to worry about. He said Harry has a pretty rigid code of morality and view of justice. It is the criminals that come from all over the ideological spectrum and tests Harry’s moral code. That is what the man who created Harry said - crime doesn’t come from just one side of the political spectrum. 

@jeorj_euler​ 

Just wanted to say that if the main aggressors in the todays small rumbles - far from U.S. - win, a little while afterwards Tw & U.S. of A. will be the next they target for their dubious plans. And then they act together with new power. So the U.S. of A. has to continue, because one can't start a thing over decades and then when it fails say: "I'm out!" - Surely not! No "en vogue" decisions needed. So no matter if democrats or republicans will rule, they have to continue supporting the western hemisphere, or all is done. Then good night, the last one turns the lights off, please.

In that case, maybe the "aggressors" (more like escalators since it isn't all that clear when these and those actually started) have possibly already won. In the unlikely event that BRICS comes into existence sooner rather than later, it won't be absent of reason. What goes around comes around. Only a matter of time before the long chain of defeated-but-not-destroyed "enemies" get the sense to band together and exploit all the flanks and holes that cannot be kept secret. Sometimes people simply want revenge, when they cannot recover what precisely was taken. I don't subscribe to the idea the United States government is served as a positive and uplifting force in the world (without paradox) for more than one third of the time. Honestly, I only happen to find that the places guarded by this monstrosity are the best of places to live, and that comes at the expense of many people living outside the zone, whether we're importing slaves or importing the goods made by slaves. I see a lot of propaganda and censorship coming from all governments. I don't know. I sort of feel like one most defamed Adam Weishaupt was on to something. Haha.

@jeorj_euler​ 

And what happens afterwards? All beginns from start. It is wrong to believe that after another force takes over, the suppression ends. It will just be other supressors. The humankinds worthiest things like freedom of speech, womens rights, philosophical self-examination without religious interference and self-determination will be put away and exchanged with ideological religious drill. After considering all, I must admit that supporting a freedom-orientated liberal state still is the best on earth. I can't see any of that in the aggressor's aims. We got to join a big federation, The United States of Eurasimerika (yt). (I found the clip after I had the idea just a few seconds ago, so my word-creation was not intended by the maker of that clip. The hymn starts at about 1:10.) :D

That's why it seemed odd to be closely aligned with the so-called aggressors in terms of "trade" even now and for so very long. We know that once enough of us decide to be righteous, we can kiss a lot of "nice things" goodbye for a long time. Almost everybody has always wanted to to have it both ways, whether or not it is even possible. Without setting reasonable goals, we can only expect Pyrrhic victories. Besides, is it really honest to believe that one enemy or another can actually achieve anything other than a Pyrrhic victory? Anyway, before things get better, they probably have to get worse, perhaps worse than ever recorded thus far. Apart from that, there is a sort of cycle that has existed and will continue to exist, and most member of homo sapiens sapiens won't witnesses certain types of events more than once in a lifetime, and for peculiar enough events, never more than twice. So, the strengths and weaknesses of things like a priori versus a posteriori are underscored. We'll never actually understand what certain experiences are like until the opportunity for them to occur again arises. We may even treat (regardless of belief) some things to be mythological even though they aren't on account of that, and to be fair, it is not unusual for pieces of evidence to regularly be lost with time. If we were able to live longer, then the cycle would be of a lower frequency, but we mostly can't.

By the way, in the United States, the term "women's rights" is now largely an euphemism for tax-funded fœticide. To a lesser extent, people who employ this terminology do also usually advocate for some kind of way for employers or perhaps even entire industries to be legally forced to compensate female workers the same amount as male workers, under the notion of "equal pay for equal work" regardless of matters of supply and demand, or more so things like unequal costs, unequal liabilities and how royalties manifest as percentages of profit. On account of activism like that, I'm usually the first the point out that "the devil is in the details" concerning any changes to public policy. Anyway, until there exists in this world an army, a resilient one, comprised entirely of women and so not commanded by king, I don't see how any society would be able to achieve improved equality between the sexes without many men doing a lot of work on behalf of many women. Worth pointing out of course that while men and women are very similar, the few differences have always stood out. We human beings mostly tend to define ourselves by our differences too even if the differences aren't that much, like from the point of view of another species altogether.

@jeorj_euler​ 

Since you told how old you are really, I better understand your points. You got nothing to lose at that age. I also understand your point about some feminists, which are unnormaly cramp, tense, uptight. I also know that kind and I am sorry about their inner struggle to be like that. I better like relaxed feminism. The paygap should be balanced. Why should a woman get lesser than a man for the same work? That's clearly unfair. When it comes to ab-ort-ion ... there are a few good reasons why a-bort-ion should be allowed.

If a woman was ra-ped, if she lives in poor circumstances and the contraceptives failed, if the husband ran away with another and she doesn't know how to cope with it, .... I guess I can think of some other situations when it is socially better to allow that. Better than a child that lives in despair and later turns criminal. I'd leave it to the woman. It's their body. I wouldn't allow my wife to decide about my body and she also wouldn't like that. It's just man's ego that says: "The baby is also part of me. I should have the right for veto." Well ... we can convince the woman to do not, but she also has to consider: "Will he take it? Will he be reliable? Or will he go away after three years, because it's too much responsibility and stress?" Women are also just humans. Why should they always have to be strong until they colapse? For the man (or religious) made ideology of "foe-ti-ci-de"? I'm a pragmatist in that case.

Anyway, before picking on women in distress, the father should be a relieable partner for her and her child. Why do so many people pick on those women without being ready to give them a promise for supporting them after birth? Give them a future and more of them will be ready to feel the divine fulfillment in beeing a mother. Abo-rtion-s will sink according to that. That's my forecast.

Hm, I've never revealed my age on here, and to wit, it isn't beyond the average age of life expectancy, but I've always been intentionally vague about it, I only know what the very elderly have revealed about their struggles, what I've directly witnessed and what I've learned from sources of medical, biological, anatomical and physiological information. The physical underpinnings that all lifeforms have in common are fascinating. The seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months or years leading up death can be unpleasant if not horrifying, painful and repugnant, but thankfully that is not always as the case, depending on the causation. Some things to know is that a person expect to experience deteriorating eyesight, hearing, balance, stamina and cognition, as he or she ages, after becoming thirty years old, and some of these things happen faster or slower, depending on how severe the various microscopic traumas the body undergoes throughout the decades.

My only complaint about the "equal pay for equal work" concept, given its phrasing, is that it doesn't seem to account for unequal costs/liabilities definitely associated with providing a suitable work environment for people whose needs are or seem to be diverse. The usual slogan or motto small enough to fit on a bumper sticker isn't compatible with the progress of philosophy and isn't necessarily politically insightful even if politically "useful". Certainly, maternity leave is another one that factors in, but to think deeply about it, perhaps there isn't necessarily a problem for paternity leave to exist but in a much more limited way than its counterpart. In other words, if pay is unequal, then the explanations or reasons ought have some kind of a justification, yet I'd be careful to try to actually force the issue, before gathering enough points of view. As for "feminism", there are too many types of it to really even bother making use of the term "feminism", so addressing specific concepts just seems more appropriate.

I understand that there are circumstances whereby human fœticide could have a positive outcome (such as destruction of a parasitic twin in order to preserve the wellbeing of the healthier sibling), or moreover may possibly generally be none of the public's business, but the matter ought not in any way be sugar-coated. Past a point in gestation, the offspring is no longer a small unfeeling embryo than can simply slip out and erode into the soil, but the body would have to be butchered in the removal process, which ordinarily only appropriate if the body has been already been dead long enough serve as a biohazard to the womb containing it. Some people believe it is absolutely alright to do this to a living human fetus, perhaps/supposedly as long as the mother thereof doesn't disapprove. To be honest, I'm not entirely sold on idea that no contemporary woman is ever coerced into doing this. Technically, if there is a pre-established Power of Attorney for her, then that person could make the decision on her behalf if she isn't able to do so, and this may otherwise extend to the significant other, the parents or the fetus's grown-up sibling. Anyway, most people probably don't really like to discuss actual details in any given public policy matter, and so knowledgeable activists feel the need to tiptoe around the hundreds of intriguing nuances. I'm not particularly aligned with the notion that a human fetus is entitled to all the same exact protections that are afforded to newborns (and minors in general), mainly for pragmatic reasons concerning detection, pathology, autopsy, interrogation, search, seizure, testimony (including confession), reasonable doubt and due process of law, but I do take issue with what I see as a situation of perverse incentive for anybody in the business (industry) of intentionally ending a human life that is incapable of caring for self and is not only supposedly unwanted but also supposedly expected to remain unwanted in perpetuity.

Yo, dgranger. I (and probably everybody else) was only via email notifications able to read the whole content of your two recent posts concerning the politics of women's wellbeing. The understanding that I have of the forum system is that when posts are marked "private", no notification is generated, as opposed to when deleted altogether, but I could be mistaken. I'm sure there are some nations (or at least the governments thereof) out there in the world that still to this day don't embrace suffrage for women, and that is ordinarily what comes to mind regarding group-specific rights in an egalitarian context. The ambiguity of terminology is sort of what elicited me to put forth remarks concerning the wording, so as to help reflect the fact that multiple people could be using the same words to converse but don't all treat those words as though they have one specific meaning or another, and quite frankly, sometimes people don't even actually know what each other is talking about, yet play along none the wiser. Well, that beats asking, "What do you mean?" only to be confronted with, "What do you mean 'What do I mean?'?" Haha. So, it may be okay to casually point out that X usually means Y when X says Z. The word "rights" alone is somewhat problematic too, since it could refer to freedoms (viz. "negative liberty") or entitlements (viz. "positive liberty"), or possibly a third or fourth thing. For these reasons, I don't generally blame anybody for alluding to Animal Farm or Nineteeneightyfour, in the context of the confusion that can arise from what is effectively newspeak, so to speak. The only problem is that sometimes the term "Orwellian" is used willy-nilly without inclusion of detail as to how it applies to a situation, or at least narrowing it down to Napoleon the Pig, or IngSoc; all while perhaps ignoring that a given thing might be "Huxleian" or so corresponding to another style of dystopia altogether. Haha. Long story short, "newspeak" usually wins my disapproval.

@jeorj_euler​ 

Back to the guys. Why do they  leave pregnant women alone? It's interesting how you can be accidently triggered with only the term "women's rights". The discussion was about the rumbles that happen around the world at the moment. Now look at the kilometers of text you generated on only that two words.

I don't know why some men intentionally abandon their offspring. I could only guess about the hundreds of possible circumstances. I could only really point out that I don't approve of men who pressure, bribe or otherwise guide without sound reasoning a woman into making the decision to not either complete her pregnancy or at least employ medical intervention to deliver prematurely. I also don't approve of a man who uses brute force, coercion or a lot of intimidation to do the contrary. Anyway, I'm not one to claim that fathers have fewer responsibilities than mothers. "Where is the father?" That's a fine question.

So, about the rumbles around the world, there are a lot of them, more than can be counted on both hands. In many cases, I feel as though the Republican Party politicians in the United States need to just raise up their arms and exclaim, "I tried to warn you! You didn't listen! Now, you want even more of the taxpayers' money?!" I mean, look at the way some people (so-called political pundits) tried to defend Barack Obama's decision to ship those frozen assets into the custody of the unlawful regime of Iran, on the spurious notion that the funds could legitimately be inherited in such a way. Granted my only reason for disapproving of or at least questioning Donald Trump's decision to send hellfire missiles up that Iranian general's behind is that I genuinely don't know where any President of the United States derive the authority to approve much less order assassinations against people who are not members of body against whom the Congress of the United States declared war, no judicial involvement, no public evidence, nothing, but yet apparently this has been a thing for multiple decades. What else is there? Well, that other thing going back perhaps father back in time than the "unconstitutional" referendum for Crimea to separate from her mother. Shouldn't it be obvious that some of these wars are very old? Even the Korean war never actually ended. Anyway, why has the Western bloc been doing business with so many of these tyrannical regimes that are overbearingly oppressive of supposedly women? We didn't give a shit a while ago, but o, all of the sudden we do now? Something doesn't add up.

The "in memoriam" list for 2023 is pretty long, perhaps longer than the one for 2022. I fear that the one for 2024 will be even longer, and 2025 yet even further longer.

@Breumaster​ just before he dies in “Once Upon A Time In America” https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949350/mediaviewer/rm2954003712

joe Pesci does a brilliant piece of emoting acting in the deli scene where young is telling an offensive story and Pesci is laughing and smiling through all of it. But the second Young turns his back to him, Pesci’s face changes and shows a look of pure controlled hate on his face.

@dgranger​ 

Can't remember. Maybe I got to watch it again. Pesci also is a very good actor. Young worked with some of the best, I know.

I forgot Joe Pesci was in that. Maybe he was so young, I didn't recognize him.

Shaft!

@jeorj_euler​ he did a small cameo in “Speed Racer”, had a larger role in one of the later shaft movies (and he was better than Samuel L. Jackson in the same movie), and was in a forgettable role as miles the stunt motorcycle rider in “Earthquake”.

@ACT_1​ 

Looks like he was a good character actor. He has 179 credits and 1 coming. He played in a few movies I saw, but I didn't recognize him, when I saw the image. I guess he was one of them you remember when you see him, decently in the background for a few lines.

@ACT_1​ 

One of the lines I link to an actor who acted in Evolution - the fire training inspector.

I only really remember him from Night Court. I think he may have been in one of the Police Academy sequels.

@jeorj_euler​ I got him in Thomas Kinkade's Christmas Cottage as Big Jim. But he played character roles mainly.

(updated this so the name of the film actually appears in the post.)

@ACT_1​ 

IMDb says, he apparently drowned. T-Online reports that Los Angeles Times reported he drowned in his Whirlpool. It says it was accidential.

I was wondering which kind of body of water it was that he drowned in, since the source I was looking at didn't mention any details at all.

@jeorj_euler​ 

I don't really know. I wasn' there. They mentioned it was a whirlpool accident. Do you have better information?

I wasn't there either so I don't know either, but I've no reason to doubt the report that the type of body of water was a whirlpool. I was just pointing out that I had been wondering about that detail, because the implications may vary with whether it was a bathtub, a swimming pool, a fast river, a lake, a bay or the high seas. I mean, I didn't even know whether or not he was at home. So, for instance, I can easily see how somebody who is sober and perfectly healthy can drown due by being caught in fast currents, rip tides or seaweeds. Whereas, for a tub or an indoor pool, I'd be thinking of somebody passing out due to too much humidity, otherwise drugs or poor health, and then drowning by virtue of already being unconscious, unable to awaken.

@jeorj_euler​ I am going to miss him. Eventhough I often confuse him with Wilford Bradly for some reason, I still think his best acting came after he left “Freinds” - 3 episodes on “The West Wing” and 4 on “The Good Wife”. Top rated shows, not bad stuff.

@jeorj_euler​ he died in a jacuzzi after a night of playing pickle ball. His death is mysterious because there was no drugs or alcohol in his body or near the jacuzzi that would have caused the death. From what I read, he came home, sent his aide out to get something. When the aide came back, he found Perry in the jacuzzi.

Rest In Peace.