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@Jessica​ If it needs to be, I prefer it to be published during the current FIFA window, since their are no guarantees it will be published during the next FIFA window.

@urbanemovies​ 

Well, the fact that I said it would be better for next year is your guarantee, Urb. 

My point is, please do not bump more than three suggestions in a row. I've asked you this before.

@Jessica​ I never agreed to that and I don't believe it an effective way to solve the bumping problem. If you want to stop people from bumping their polls excessively, then stop rewarding the behavior, by not publishing the polls of the offenders.

I am not going to update my poll suggestions on the spot when I see an error (even minor ones), just because the thread system moves it to the top most recent list. That is why you see bunches of my poll at times. The rule is counterproductive by making it harder to manage your poll suggestions. As, I also use notes to prioritize my suggestions for my suggestions that need urgent attention and those that are lower priority. This also has the side benefit of making clearer which poll suggestions are not ready and those that are ready and those that that may be more timely.

@urbanemovies​ 

If you want to stop people from bumping their polls excessively, then stop rewarding the behavior, by not publishing the polls of the offenders.

Well, I seem to be the only admin who cares about the bumping and I am not the only one who decides which polls go live, so it's not really up to me, is it?

And how do you think should proceed, Urb? Should we all have a discussion about how many polls a user should bump per day? Because we've tried that before.

It's true that your reasoning for bumping may differ from Gabriel who is the only other user who bumps more than three per day, but you have to see that it doesn't look good when five or six of your threads are on the first page, and it's not exactly fair to a user who has far less suggestions.

By the way, this "3 per day rule" is not something I decided, it was Breumaster who brought it up:

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/could-we-please-reduce-the-bumping-to-max-3-poll-ideas-per-user-a-day/682dd643b18ed11eed2cd4b9

@Jessica​

I can appreciate your point of view and I do try to limit it. At the same time, I am not going to allow it to prevent me from updating my lists, or my threads for even small editorial changes to fix errors when I see them on the spot.  But, I could find other ways to limit myself.

Honestly, I think the solution is the "nuclear option" or the "threat of the nuclear option" I suggested, which I think would solve the issue. Plus, one or two admins boycotting an offender might be enough to change the "bad behavior". Teddy Roosevelt often said: "speak softly and carry a big stick; (and) you will go far". I think the softer approach hasn't yielded the desired result, maybe it is time for the big stick.

Otherwise, personal appeals like this one might work (but I agree so far that hasn't worked). I notice when I do my edits another individual tends to bump right after (just to be at top listed above everyone else, regardless of how many times they have already posted that day), so I may be magnifying the issue with my approach, because it doubles the activity at the front of the board (due to the other poster). I have an idea of something I can do on my part, I will give it a try, to see if it nets results in the coming weeks. 

@Jessica​ I would disagree about the guarantee. I used to see almost all my timely polls published during the appropriate window. Lately, it has been "hit or miss" with some being publish in the weeks after or a few not at all (so far).

@urbanemovies​ 

Plus, one or two admins boycotting an offender might be enough to change the "bad behavior".

As you know, the whole team do the selecting, so it wouldn't stop the other admins from picking polls by you and Gabriel, which as I said, are the only two users who bump more than three per day.

I could suggest the idea to the team, but honestly I don't think that approach would work on Gabriel. 

I used to see almost all my timely polls published during the appropriate window. Lately, it has been "hit or miss" with some being publish in the weeks after or a few not at all (so far).

Well, just because you point out that you want your polls live during a specific time frame, doesn't mean they will automatically go live. Suggestions need to be selected, reviewed and sometimes we agree on not pushing them.

I have an idea of something I can do on my part, I will give it a try, to see if it nets results in the coming weeks. 

Thanks, I appreciate it.

@Jessica​ I can understand that. "Well, just because you point out that you want your polls live during a specific time frame, doesn't mean they will automatically go live." My issue has to do not knowing why, which would limit my still focusing on a suggestion during it's window. I also may be able to offering some additional information or insight. 

I am also against allowing the actions of one individual alter how I manage my poll suggestions on principle alone. But, I could update my poll threads less for edits or only after they go live, while still editing my list on the spot when I am fine-tuning my suggestions. This should cut down on my perceived activity and allow you to focus on the remaining source. Maybe, you should post every time you see anyone post more than five times in a day. This you will call the person out on their bad behavior, and be like a scarlet letter.

I would disagree that this problem is not solvable, it just needs some attention and active management.

@urbanemovies​ 

My issue has to do not knowing why, which would limit my still focusing on a suggestion during it's window. I also may be able to offering some additional information or insight. 

There has been disagreement on whether we should inform users when their polls are rejected. Personally I think it's OK to tell them if they want to know.

Maybe, you should post every time you see anyone post more than five times in a day. This you will call the person out on their bad behavior, and be like a scarlet letter.

I have already asked Gabriel several times whenever I've seen him bump more than three suggestions, but he continues to ignore me.

I also asked Paok, who used to bump many suggestions, and he agreed to limit his bumping. Kirk also agreed to three bumps per day in Breumaster's thread: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/

And now you have agreed to try to limit your bumping. So it's not like telling people about the bumping has had no effect at all, it's just one user who is not being a team player.

Lol, less than ten minutes after this reply there are three new bumps from Gabriel. Of course, he only bumps three at a time, but then he waits a few hours and bumps three more which brings it to more than three per day. And unlike you, his reason for bumping is only to have his suggestions at the top, not to correct text.

@Jessica​ I appreciate your efforts, I will try to part of the solution rather than part of the problem, even if my reasons are different.