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Tuesday, December 27th, 2022

Live poll: Fictional Books and Newspapers in Movies

​​List Page: ​​​​https://www.imdb.com/list/ls566820698/?ref_=m_ur​​

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https://www.imdb.com/poll/7zNrhn4m6CE/

​​First off, since this poll list is being created on Christmas Day 2022, and that movie the inspired this poll is a comedy film noir mystery that takes place over the Christmas holidays, “Merry Christmas and Season’s Greetings to all” no matter what time of year it is. (And yes, I do want that to stay in.)​​
​​And now to the topic. Many famous, and not so famous, movies feature a fictional book or newspaper that never existed in the real world as part of it’s plot. Which has the best title of a fictional book or newspaper? ​​

​​Unfortunately this has to be done as a title list instead of an image list. ​​

​​If you got any fictional reading recommendations from the movies, to submit them to the editor here.​​
​​P.S. don’t try to submit “Fantastical Beasts and Where to Find Them” or “Quidditch: Through The Ages” because J.K. Rowling did write them for charity. And “New York Daily Inquirer” too (Citizen Kane).​​
​​Oh, to tell the difference between newspapers and book titles, books get the quotation marks - newspapers don’t.​​

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No time to look them up right now (maybe in the morning), but remember that there are books by the James Caan character in Misery.

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@TheOldJalapenoman​ I was thinking that too but was going to name one . It was ether going to be the one he is writing in the book, or the one that led to him being trapped in the bed.

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@dgranger​ I guess great minds think alike then!  I'd also suggest that the main female character in Romancing the Stone and Jewel of the Nile is a romance novelist.  One of her books could be listed.

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@TheOldJalapenoman​ check the lists. They are added. Also I had to add that statement I wrote the comments so that no one blame you if I said anything wrong.

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@dgranger​ Thanks.  My mind is drawing a total blank right now, but in Sandra Bullock's latest action/adventure movie with Channing Tatum, she plays a romance novelist and some of her books are shown and mentioned.

Just looked it up.  The movie is "The Lost City."

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@TheOldJalapenoman​ I ran across that too when looking up “Romancing the Stone”. A lot of people are say that could be a rip off because the two appears to be very similar at first glance. I haven’t seen it so I don’t know the differences. I only saw the trailer and I thought it was more roll reversal than anything else.

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@dgranger​ I saw it at the theatre with my son.  While I found "Stone" to be a very entertaining and original movie, I thought that "Lost City" was very formulaic.  It followed Berkian form from beginning to end (you could tell in one scene what was going to happen in the next).  It was not really believable even as escapist fiction.  Tatum is 42 and Bullock is pushing 60 and a romance here was not believable.    I didn't find it to be a ripoff myself, but thought it pulling things from a lot of movies (why I called it formulaic).  I also got the feeling that Bullack was trying to set herself up for a possible film series with this one.

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3 years ago

This a great poll idea. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of fictional books and fictional newspapers. As well as, famous film characters who wrote them or work for them in the movies. FYC, You might consider doubling and tripling them up under a single movie title. I have no doubt you will have more the 35 strong movie options even then. Check out these hyperlinked lists as a starting point to help fill out your poll suggestion.

FYC Fictional Newspapers List

  • Gotham Free Press - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  • Gotham Globe - Batman: The Movie
  • The New York Ghost - (New York wizarding newspaper, seen in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
  • The Wizard's Voice - New York wizarding newspaper, also seen in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
  • The Albuquerque Sun-Bulletin - Ace in the Hole
  • The Amity Gazette - Jaws
  • The Campus Roar - Monsters University school newspaper, Monsters University
  • The Daily Chronicle - The Great Muppet Caper
  • The Daily Prophet - Harry Potter Film Series
  • The Quibbler (a wizarding tabloid) - Harry Potter Film Series
  • Transfiguration Today - Harry Potter Film Series
  • The French Dispatch of the Liberty, Kansas Evening Sun, or simply The French Dispatch - The French Dispatch
  • Hill Valley Telegraph - Back to the Future
  • Hush-Hush - a celebrity scandal tabloid based on the real-life Confidential appearing in LA Confidential
  • The Indianapolis Daily Inquirer - The Magnificent Ambersons
  • The Los Angeles Suit - Death Wish 2
  • The Maycomb Tribune - To Kill a Mockingbird
  • Mars Today - Total Recall
  • The Morning Post - His Girl Friday
  • The Los Angeles Suit - Death Wish 2
  • Morning Appeal - The Shootist
  • The New York Banner - The Fountainhead
  • New York Chronicle - Citizen Kane
  • St. Louis Daily Inquirer - Citizen Kane
  • The New Holland Post - Frankenweenie
  • New York Globe - Sweet Smell of Success
  • New York Morning Globe - Foreign Correspondent
  • New York Sun - The Paper
  • New York Journal - 27 Dresses
  • Osage Wigwam - Cimarron
  • The Raccoon City Times - Resident Evil
  • The Poughkeepsie News - The Shipping News
  • The Star - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
  • The Washington Herald - The Pelican Brief
  • The Zootopia Times - Zootopia
  • ???? - Penny Serenade
  • ???? - Front Page Woman

I would use the list as a starting point for answer options. Since, in some cases the movie maybe based on book, and the fictional newspaper's name might different in the book and movie (see How to Train Your Dragon for example). Basically, vet every option and independently verify it by checking plot summaries.  I flagged some with ?????  orbfor ones that I couldn't find the name or that I was even more unsure of than the others or knew there was a fictional newspaper, but didn't know the name.

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FYC Fictional Books List

  • The Grave Digger's Handbook: A Twelve-Step Guide to Grave-Digging Success, published by the Bayern Cemetary Association, The Book Thief
  • The Standover Man, by Max Vanderburg, The Book Thief
  • Memoir of Adam Lang by The Ghost, The Ghost Writer
  • The Grand Budapest Hotel ,The Grand Budapest Hotel
  • The Waverly Prep series by Mavis Gary, Young Adult
  • Death and Taxes by Karen Eiffel, Stranger Than Fiction
  • The Door in the Floor and other children's books by Ted Cole, The Door in the FloorTropic Thunder by Sergeant "Four Leaf," Tropic Thunder
  • 'Love Hurts', ('The First Time'????? and 'Shooter'?????) by Catherine Woolf, Basic Instinct
  • Midnight Dawns?????The Price of Dawn?????Requiem for Mayhem?????, and An Imperial Affliction by Peter Van Houten in The Fault in Our Stars
  • Down with Love by Barbara Novak, Down with Love
  • Family of Geniuses by Etheline Tenenbaum, The Royal Tenenbaum
  • Old Custer, a Western alternate history by Eli Cash, The Royal Tenenbaums
  • Avalon Landing by William Forrester, Finding Forrester
  • Look out for the Little Guy!, by Scott Lang (memoir), Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
  • The Book of Crossroads, Pan's Labyrinth
  • How I Did It by Victor Frankenstein, Young Frankenstein
  • This Time by Jesse, Before Sunset
  • The Philosophy of Time Travel by Roberta Sparrow, Donnie Darko
  • Handbook for the Recently Deceased, Beetlejuice
  • Tobin's Spirit Guide by J.H. Tobin, Ghostbusters
  • Yeast Lords by Benjamin Purvis, Gentlemen Broncos
  • The Chronicles of Brutus & Balzaak by  Dr. Ronald Chevalier, Gentlemen Broncos
  • Bridget Jones' Diary by Bridget Jones, Bridget Jones' Diary
  • Confessions of an Ellen Jamesian by Anonymous, A Sexual Suspect by Jenny Fields (autobiography)
  • How to Train Your Dragon by Professor Yobbish referred to as The Dragon Manual in How to Train Your Dragon film series ?????
  • Forever Young by Helen Sharp in Death Becomes Her ?????
  • The Ambitious Host ?????, The Crowned Image ?????, and The Grave on the Water-Front ????? by Maurice Bendrix in The End if the Affair
  • The novels of Bernard and Joan Berkman, The Squid and the Whale
  • Suzy's storybooks, Moonrise Kingdom
  • The second novel of Grady Tripp, Wonder Boys
  • The romance novels of Melvin Udall, As Good as It Gets
  • Tales from Space (comic book), Back to the Future
  • too numerous to list by various, Harry Potterseries
  • too numerous to list by various, Lord of the Ring series

I would use the list as a starting point for answer options. Since, in some cases the movie maybe based on book, and the fictional book's name might different in the book and movie (see How to Train Your Dragon for example). Basically, vet every option and independently verify it by checking plot summaries.  I flagged some with ?????  or for ones that I couldn't find the name or that I was even more unsure of than the others or knew there was a fictional book, but didn't know the name.

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@urbanemovies​ “How to Train Your Dragon” was the name of both the novel and the manual in the book. It was stolen from the library or a neighboring tribe.

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@dgranger​ I am unfamiliar with novel and don't have that level of recall for the movie. But, I read the same and supposedly they don't name the book in the movies, even though it is the title of the film series.

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@urbanemovies​ , All they took from the book were elements like Vikings, Dragons, Names, the book “How to Train Your Dragon”, Training Dragons, and the Viking leader’s son being a nerd. The story in the movie is completely different than the one in the book.

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3 years ago

Corrections:

First off, since this poll list is being created on Christmas Day 2022, and the movie that inspired this poll is a comedy noir mystery film that takes place over the Christmas holidays, “Merry Christmas and Season’s Greetings to all” no matter what time of year it is.

that never existed in the real world as part of its plot.

P.S. don’t try to submit “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them”

#1: this fictional book is not either one of them.

#8: Former owners are Perry White and Lex Luthor

#21: He’d let other writers use his creation which is why it appears in movies that are not based on his stories.

#23: Barbossa said it was more like a set of guidelines than a code, and you’d have to be a pirate for it to apply. Note: while many pirate ships did have a pirate’s code to which the crew must agree, not all pirate ships have the same code, and it was never published in book form, with maps included, as the movie shows it.

#25: They are mentioned in the movie and Stephen King’s later novels.

#26: because they really do exist as books in a type of movie novelization

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@Jessica​ corrected. But I had to keep one of the corrections and expanded upon it because it was a part of serving as a crew member on a pirate ship. Every member had to agreed to that ship’s pirate code or get killed.

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3 years ago

Does it count when the fictional movie book gets printed for real?

  • Look out for the Little Guy!, by Scott Lang (memoir), Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (2023)

FYC Fictional Books Lists

https://ew.com/books/40-fictional-books-movies-tv/

https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_fictional_books

FYC Fictional Newspapers List

https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_fictional_newspapers

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@urbanemovies​  sorry but it doesn’t count. Go back to the description and read the part about “Quidditch Through the Ages” and “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them”. Also “The Diary of Ellen Rimbower” from Stephen King’s “Rose Red” is not on here too.

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@dgranger​ I saw that it was excluded. I was just decided to put it all out there and let you select the ones you want to use or not use for yourself.

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@urbanemovies​ thanks, I had looked at them and picked an obvious one from  Tim Burton’s “Batman”.

Why don’t you pick two? You got the sources.
BTW, you got me thinking of the American News Service in “Roman Holiday”. But that is a fictional news agency and not a newspaper.

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@dgranger​, my vote is for the American News Service, "Roman Holiday” probably makes my top 100 movies. I will take a look and get back to you on my suggested Fictional Books & Newspaper add(s) to the answer pool in a day or so.

FYC, it looks much closer to being complete

1) I would suggest making it a favorite question over a best question, since viewers haven't actually read them or ever could, it would be hard to actually answer the best question.

2) It looks like once you clean up the introduction and question, it might simply look something like this: (I assume you are not going to still keep the Christmas greeting part.)

Many famous and lesser known movies feature a fictional book or newspaper that never existed in the real world as part of its plot. 

Which fictional book or newspaper from the movies or television is your favorite one of them all?

If you got any fictional reading recommendations from the movies, submit them to the editor here.

3) You still need to bold some answer options, like “The Case of the Headless Bride” by Wayne Morgan, The Daily Planet, The “Necronomicon” or “Kitab al-Azif” by Alhazred, "The Pirate’s Code”, The Misery Novels:, Joan Wilder’s Romance Series, The Roxford Tribune, The Gotham Globe, g and "How to Train Your Dragon" to make the answers easy to standout over the text.

4) Lastly, a good once over proofread would seem to finish this one off.

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Sorry, it took a week to get back to you. I think these are must adds to your poll (FYI, I have seen all these movies) due to the prominence the books and the newspapers play in the storyline, as well as, how well seen these movies are. It would be hard to find someone who has seen these movies and is not very familiar with these publications. I would trim back on the Wizarding World movie titles (maybe 1 movie per franchise, consolidate the publications under a single movie representing the franchise). You should consolidate the five other duplicated movies under a single movie listing with all the books and newspapers listed together too. Maybe,  cut some of the lower voted movies, if necessary for these more well-seen movies that have a more prominent publications in the storyline, if you need the space to get under thirty-five options. I would add first, then delete the excess options after.

1) Adds

Fictional Newspapers

  • The Albuquerque Sun-Bulletin - Ace in the Hole
  • The French Dispatch of the Liberty, Kansas Evening Sun, or simply  The French Dispatch - The French Dispatch
  • Hush-Hush - a celebrity scandal tabloid based on the real-life Confidential appearing in LA Confidential
  • The Morning Post - His Girl Friday
  • New York Sun - The Paper
  • New York Journal - 27 Dresses
  • The Washington Herald - The Pelican Brief

Fictional Books List

  • The Grave Digger's Handbook: A Twelve-Step Guide to Grave-Digging Success, published by the Bayern Cemetary Association, The Book Thief and The Standover Man, by Max Vanderburg, The Book Thief
  • The Grand Budapest Hotel ,The Grand Budapest Hotel
  • The Waverly Prep series by Mavis Gary, Young Adult
  • Death and Taxes by Karen Eiffel, Stranger Than Fiction
  • How I Did It by Victor Frankenstein, Young Frankenstein
  • This Time by Jesse, Before Sunset
  • The Philosophy of Time Travel by Roberta Sparrow, Donnie Darko
  • Tobin's Spirit Guide by J.H. Tobin, Ghostbusters
  • Bridget Jones' Diary by Bridget Jones, Bridget Jones' Diary

2) Since, you will have a full listing of answer options you can delete the "P.S. don’t try to submit “Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them” or “Quidditch: Through The Ages” because J.K. Rowling did write them for charity. And “New York Daily Inquirer” too (Citizen Kane)." sentence, since it is no longer needed.

3) I still would suggest making it a favorite question over a best question, since viewers haven't actually read them or ever could, it would be hard to actually answer the best question.

FYC,

Many famous and lesser known movies feature a fictional book or newspaper that never existed in the real world as part of its plot. 

Which fictional book or newspaper from the movies or television is your favorite one of them all?

3) You still need to bold some answer options, like #6 “The Handbook for the Recently Deceased" and #23 "The Pirate’s Code”to make those answers standout over the text.

4) Lastly, a final proofread would finish this one off.

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3 years ago

FYC, These titles still need bolding

#23 ”The Pirate’s Code"

#31 "Bridget Jones’s Diary” by Bridget Jones

#32 The French Dispatch of the Liberty, Kansas Evening Sun 

#33 'How I Did It' by Victor Frankenstein

#34 "Hush Hush"

#35 ”The Grave Digger's Handbook: A Twelve-Step Guide to Grave-Digging Success”, published by the Bayern Cemetary Association

I appreciate the acknowledgement, a simple thank you is sufficient. I prefer the cleaner look without it and keeping the focus on the publications.

FYI,

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@urbanemovies​ done. The worst part is that I did bold them when I added them.

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@dgranger​ Thanks for bolding the remaining publication titles. Again, I really like the idea. I am sorta surprised it had not been done before

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Congratulations, @dgranger!

Fictional Books and Newspapers in Movies

Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/7zNrhn4m6CE/

Please change "Poll Suggestion" to "Live Poll" in the discussion thread title and change the settings so that it appears under "Praise" now, rather than "Idea."

 

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@dan_dassow​ I got late in this. I had to attend a funeral. My brother died. 

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I'm sorry to hear that, dgranger. About a month ago, I lost somebody very close to me, closer than the several others I've lost throughout the past five years.

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@jeorj_euler​ my condolences to you and your family.