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Sunday, September 9th, 2018 9:00 PM

Live Poll: Which Mask Hides Your Face

The list page: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls029632418/

Halloween and Day Of The Dead are coming again. Well this time you are at Halloween/Day Of The Dead combination ball where all the people must where masks that were used in the movies and tv shows. Which one hides your face?

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/raYRXmfRybc/

Note:Since eye masks and face paint masks seam to be a large generic group of masks, a few group selections were made so this list doesn’t get bogged down with those masks types and makes room for masks that cover at least the eyes and more of the face.Also a feed of couples going out with similar themed masks were also made.

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6 years ago

Should I have made one selection as a “Couples Group Of Masks” , and placed all the couples mask selections in there?

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6 years ago

Ahem...

 

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Give me the IMDb address for that one please.

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On guy actually made a semi-working prototype in 2011. 

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I wear a mask to keep my face warm.
:P

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Added. But now I got a problem. One too many.

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Then Willy, you are the first selection: No mask. Esmeralda loves your mask. She said so in the movie.

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The following is an image of a woman who hides her face (probably) not out of shame but to protect her loved ones (a concept touched on in The Dark Knight Rises):

 https://d2r1vs3d9006ap.cloudfront.net/s3_images/1751309/RackMultipart20180912-8894-dln1jb-10oikpg.jpg?1536723256

...and at the very least, she is "just following orders" by concealing her face :P

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Likewise the person pictured below is motivated not by shame but by the need to guard against the effects of his/her own less-than-lethal weapons (tear gas, which hopefully wouldn't have to be used, wouldn't be stolen, wouldn't harm an innocent person, wouldn't have unexpected effects and wouldn't be used unlawfully/statistly):

 https://d2r1vs3d9006ap.cloudfront.net/s3_images/1751312/RackMultipart20180912-78656-1xbvd56-26f3af15fcc0400f784979e69b028e48d35a3d3c_hq.jpg?1536724166

(Likewise, at least "just doing the job" this person would be.)

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I'm  straying too far off topic (as none of the SWAT photographs are from cinema/television), so I'd best not continue further. Thanks for understanding.

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definitely like the woman with the mask, it's to protect the title of the European and his family in the field

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6 years ago

Do we have to remind you of the 35 option maximum limit per poll?

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Hi, Stephen Atwood. True. Unfortunately, I didn't feel I had the wherewithal to make a recommendation as to which mask should be dropped in favor of the cynical vigilante, so I just wrote, "ahem", leaving the poll suggester to figure it out.

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Hi, groovyvic. Wow! Philip K. Decke reminds me of Jonathan Crane, or rather vice versa (had I managed to see the first-published movie before the second-published movie):

 https://d2r1vs3d9006ap.cloudfront.net/s3_images/1751306/RackMultipart20180912-50737-16zm11j-corrupt_psychtherapist.jpg?1536722582

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That was my problem with eyemasks.there was so many different types. I might combine all the couples masks into one category . If I drop Spider-Man, it will because spider-Man and Deadpool are almost exactly alike. Stacy is staying because I think her mask is so great looking.

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Decker's mask is positively amazing. It was one of the first things I noticed about that movie in coverage and imagine my surprise when I discovered it was one of my all-time favorite directors hiding behind it. :) 

I wonder how much sceentime he has in the movie. It seems like a lot, but I have a feeling it might actually be like 15 minutes or less. The thing with main antagonists is that they almost always appear for less screentime but still seem big. I try to account the exact amoount of time titular character has in The Terminator (1984) and so far it's 26 minutes. And that's accounting very inclusively and counting all the stunt doubles. I have a feeling Schwarzenegger's actual screentime is less then 20 minutes. 

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That reminds me. What is up with the character's name? It seems inspired by storyteller Phillip K. Dick and fictional character Richard Deckard, yes?

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I didn't recognize Tomás right away. Nice.

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Don’t worry, they will be added. Probably as a new group since they all have something in common. A cloth bag as a mask.

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Hi, Silitonga. In addition to the pertinent poll list, the character (image) you've referenced might make a fine addition to the Iron Mask poll list.

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Jeorij, it did. Silitonga, check out https://www.imdb.com/list/ls029864054/

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6 years ago

I wouldn't put that on myself, but what about the mask of Guy Fawkes from 'V for Vendetta'?
I guess many people would vote for it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/mediaviewer/rm3039559936

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Sorry, I just saw - you allready have it on the list. :)

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Breumaster, maybe the cult of The Dark Knight has finally toned down after ten years.
[joker]

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When I was young, they sold these masks:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021884/mediaviewer/rm2747255808
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000489/mediaviewer/rm592835840
(I know these are actors faces. But there were made silicon masks of the characters)

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Breumaster, those masks are probably still sold, I suspect. The masks only cover the face (rather than the whole head, albeit both kinds have existed), right? Maybe the material that they are made of has changed, though; like to plastic. (Masks that cover the whole head have been made of latex since the late 1970s.)

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Jeorj:

No it hasn't !  Each new Joker actor has to cross a high hung up mark to be accepted as Joker. Look at the 'Suicide Squad'. Jared Leto is a good actor, but he didn't nail it. No way to compare with Ledgers performance. I hope Joaquin Pheonix will be a good replacement. But he will have hard work to cope with that.

I know that many people can't see any new superhero movie. But the fact is that any new superhero movie will get attention from the audience, because the generation who first time was free to read these comics without been teased about why reading comic books, now is the generation that has the money to watch the movies on cinema. And they do! So mostly every new and at least medium quality superhero movie will get it's attention for at least another ten to twenty years.

In times of CGI, when everything - really everything - is possible, there is no way to end that row of success early. Now everything former superhero-movies weren't able to show is actually createable. And the fandom is huge. So next ten years, superhero movies will take it. I guess sometimes the wave will get lower when there are only spin-offs But that will take some time. Now it's the best time for making money with it.

Warner made the beginning with 'Batman' ('89) which was not really taken serious. If it would have been, they wouldn't have put in Tim Burton for director. Nolan was the best decision. But later I feel, they hadn't the right hand for it. It seemed to me, that they didn't care.

Later Marvel and Disney/Marvel made the big deal with the MCU. That was made the right way to please comic readers and the fans. They had another relation to their fans, so they succeeded with awesome results. Relations to the audience in form of the art should be in first choice to be successful. ;)

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Jeorj (about Masks):

I know. Hiding the face is the primary use of a mask.
I've seen these masks advertised in ghost story comics.
The were named: 'Gespenstergeschichten'

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I've found Cameron Monaghan's Jerome and Jeremiah (these are renditions of the Joker in essence) to be more satisfying than Jared Leto's Joker. Heath Ledger's Joker is gimmicky and angry yet well-played and most "powerful" of performance, thus understandably popular. He brought some disturbing, serious suffering emotion to the table in the line, "Look at me!" (in the scene where he is tormenting one of vigilantes of knocked-off theme). Mark Hamil's Joker is both classic and spectacular, but it is strictly vocal performance, and incidentally PG-grade.

By the way, Tim Burton did sort of set the stage for all subsequent Batman movies (and likely other movies as well), including the Nolan brothers' ones. History could've gone a whole different way had a different director been chosen at the time. Burton's work was the nearly the perfect bridge between the 1960s television Batman and Nolan's work. I'm one the few people who don't really understand the extreme love for The Dark Knight. I'm not sure about it being Nolan's best work. I prefer Memento, Inception, and The Prestige, maybe Batman Begins. I give a nod of course for him being able produce such a balanced PG-13-rated movie. It's notably unfortunate what the post-production visual effects artists had to do with the secondary villain's face in order to avoid presenting an altogether R-rated movie.

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I mostly agree! That's just in other words - and a little further told.
Tim Burton was at that time ok, and it's not his bad. He is an excellent director for bizzare or disturbing movies ('Edward Scissorhands' should have been an option for my directors list, d@mn! Didn't think about it.). But on the other hand Warner didn't realize the power of making superhero movies more realistic. Tim Burton was very good at making many movies like Edward scissorhand, Beetlejuice, A Nightmare before Christmas, etc. But what Warner first time didn't get was that realism would drag those movies nearer to the audience. So as good as Burton is, he was the 'wrong' choice. That's not his fault. I think he did the best he could make out of it in his way to do something.

When you think of Spiderman or Batman, mostly every superhero lives in an ordinary society in the comics. Sometimes bright like spiderman, sometimes dark like Batman from Detective Comics. But the clue to make it as real as possible, this little matter didn't catch Warner at the '89 Batman. It was bizarre, dark but bizarr. Now look at the Nolan's Batmans: They happen in normal City settings, same deal with Spiderman, Cap America, Iron Man, etc. That was the last little clue that made Superhero movies a matter of 'serious' art.

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Nolan's trilogy of Batman movies may not be more or less realistic than Burton's pair of Batman movies, but merely realistic in different ways. The Dark Knight trilogy has a more realistic ambiance but a less realistic sequence of events, than Batman and Batman Returns; at least in my interpretation, that is. To me, the storylines of the two sequels to Batman Begins are essentially fantasy, with presentations of scenarios that require significant suspension of disbelief. (Quite frankly, it is as though the villain had access to the green-colored Infinity Stone from MCU, at least.) The ambiance just happens to be very gritty or conveyed in such a way that the audience feels like they could be in the setting of the movie itself. It's not clear what approach was employed by Christopher Nolan and Jonathan Nolan, along with whomever, when constructing the storylines (converting the treatments into scripts, or so), but it involved taking many more creative liberties than conducting of research, a grave departure from the process behind Memento and The Following. While Tim Burton served as no bastion of research for the Batman films directed by him; by sticking to less-threaded storylines and following a textbook comic book plot, he didn't assault the psyche as much.

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I would add that "The Dark Knight" was still a superior sequel in the way it deconstructed all the mythology surrounding Batman and even questioned the notions of 'hero' and 'villain' in a way you could expand to other movies, it also had a terrific villain because he simply had fun being the bad guy while the hero had no fun at all fighting him.

However in "Rises", no one had fun at all, I didn't dislike the film, but at one point I was like, okay I get it, Wayne is tormented, Bane is tormented, Gordon is tormented, the girls are tormented (both Cotillard and Hathaway took the same film-noir brunette angle and it made their characters look so similar Wayne's choice could only be by default)... the film was conclusive but I really wished it was a bit more fun... even the actors didn't look like they were having fun... maybe Hardy but you couldn't tell it from behind the mask.

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I liked Harvey Dent's speech regarding senatus consultum ultimum, which was topped off and finalized with the immediately renown quote: "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

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That's exactly what happened in the comics. Bruce Wayne allways was a broken charakter. Tim Burton didn't let him show that enough. In 'Batman' from 1989 Bruce Waye was to much hero, to flawless for portraying the comic story. Now that the studio bosses got it, that this can be a very profitable market, they show more respect to the stories.

Jeorj:
I would like to answere, but have no time at the moment.
Ciao. :)

Btw: Off-Topic. It was about masks! ;)

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"Tim Burton didn't let him show that enough." I agree.

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But the mask was Bruce Wayne. . BTW, the Batman/ The Dark Knight cult did not down at all. I had put Batman’s Cowl In here and mentioned the Joker In The Make-up group.
Besides, why have that mask when you have “The Strangers” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482606/... ?

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The Joker is a character. The scene referenced is kind of special since the Joker is rarely portrayed wearing a mask. He and his crew chose to wear clown masks specifically for the bank robbery, a theme that seems to have inspired the Payday video games.

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In a way, not true and not the first time it does happen in “The Dark Knight”. Isn’t a mime a type of clown? He was wearing mime make-up when he was murdering Marconi on the Gothlem City Hall Steps In Batman. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/...
And three other times in that film, does Joker wear flesh colored make-up to hide his real face.

If anything, Nolan’s and Ledger’s Joker reverse this and goes back to what inspired Kane to create the Joker - the scared face in “The Man Who Laughs” ( on the “Creepy Smiles” list twice). The Joker is wearring a make-up mask over the scars throughout the “The Dark Knight”.

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I'm not understanding, dgranger. My remark is about rm3537626368 (the wearing of a latex head mask) specifically. Why is wearing face paint considered wearing a mask? It's similar in the sense of cover but different in sense of structure. Also, in the 1989 Batman, the mime-like/clown-like appearance of the Joker is due to a deformity of his natural pigmentation combined with a little bit of reconstructive surgery. In that depiction and story, he uses makeup in certain situations to appear normal, less pale and more beige, inadequately pink/red (as far as however the literal skin color of a Caucasian or fair-skinned person could be described), meaning that he couldn't get the color back exactly to the way it was before he was deformed.

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Because, like make-up, face painting can serve either to enhance your appearance )like make-up usually does) or to hide your face like a mask. In all cases mentioned here, The Joker is wearing make-up to hide his true face. In fact, Tim Burton used that fact when the Joker lies when he says “I have taken off my make-up” when he was actually wearring make-up. Also the Joker was lying about passing out twenty million “Bucks” (a little known detail that was cut out of the movie is that it was all counterfeit money with the Joker’s face printed on it. Remember the statement he said in the art museum? He said he wanted his have his face on the one dollar bill.)
Oh that brings me to a side point here. How stupid and greedy are the people of Gothlem?!?!??? The Joker openly and publicly murders people on the steps of Gothlem City Hall. He unleashes a reign of terror and death with the chemical “Smiley” hidden in make-up and hair care products. But yet they all turn out to Joker’s parade because he promises to give out 20 million dollars?!? What complete MORONS!!!! They should have known something was up!

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Oh Breumaster, I have a movie where the main character was wearing one of the silicon masks you had mentioned but it was Bela Lugosi as Dracula, not Christopher Lee. Lady In White
Enjoy: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095484/...

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Thank you dgranger, I will watch it. Just had a 22-hours-day. Maybe tomorrow.
I'm sure it's a pretty cool and funny clip - I will share some laughter, but later. ;)

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That's looks spooky and bleak for a fantasy film rated PG-13 and starring a child.

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It is not Jeorj. But it doesn’t have the gore that films like “The Lost Boys” did and they starred kids too. But it is a ghost story and it does have a few good shocks in it.

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6 years ago

Typos:
...all the people must wear masks that were used in the movies and tv shows.

Since eye masks and face paint masks seem to be a large generic group of masks...

#4: Rock stars (Alice Cooper and KISS) and the revellers at the Day Of The Dead celebration use make-up too. Also, at times, the character of The Joker wears a make-up mask in the Batman films.

#5: But the Parr family isn’t the only one that uses them. Several other Superheroes use them too, including the Green Lantern.

#7: Zorro’s full Bandanna Eye Mask in all the Zorro films or...

#17: any similarly themed set of masks for a couple to wear like the one pictured here...

Also check #11, 14, 15, 20, 23 and 35. 

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You missed some:

#11: Helmit --> Helmet
#14: Smilely --> Smiley
#15: Micheal --> Michael 
#23: An Unicorn Mask --> A Unicorn Mask
#35: Bela Lagosi --> Bela Lugosi 

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23 is correct because “An” is used for nouns that start with a vowel. Will correct the others.

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Yes, unicorn starts with a vowel, but it has a consonant sound (yūnikorn).
Think about it, would you also say "an university" or "an one-way street"? :)

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Hi, Jessica. Interesting. You're not from the United States, are you?

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No, why do you ask?

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Not only do Americans' spellings for the English language differ from that of Canada, Australia, South Africa and the United Kingdom, the grammatical rules also differ. In other words, in the United States, dgranger is correct, whereas elsewhere among the English-speaking realms,  Jessica is correct. We also still use a lot of British Imperial units in various contexts rather than the metric system.

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No way. So you're telling me an American would actually say an unicorn, an university and an one-way street? I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that.

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Jessica. No. American speakers of English would say, "a unicorn, a university and a one-way street". I would have assumed that non-American speakers of English also do. So, now I'm confused as to what this exchange has been about. Apparently I got the arguments mixed up somehow, so never mind the bit about how the article is applied in or out of the United States. You're correct, and nobody knows to what dgranger is referring. I'm not even sure if English is his first language, regardless of his nationality.

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I spend time on this forum at the inappropriate intervals of my disheveled wake-sleep cycle. Sometimes I do not take the time to interpret sentences in the correct direction, like getting "left" and "right" reversed, or even "is" and "is not" reversed. I don't know whether it is psychological or physiological (neurological). I think this also happens to other people, but it is not always easy to spot.

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Jessica, yes we would say “an one way street”, and “an university “ (actually, we Americans say “College” instead of “University”.)
The “An” Thing is clumsy, especially with “An Unicorn Mask”, and most people will say “a unicorn mask”, but it is still correct.

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There are regional dialects and regional vocabulary in the United States, so there may be some obfuscation in that regard.

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dgranger, odd, I thought that there are both colleges and universities among the higher education facilities in the US... 

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In the United States, there is a habit to refer to tertiary education as "college", or even "school", even if a particular institution is a university. We would not refer to any school out of its name, but a person enrolled at the University of Pennsylvania would be said to be attending "college", which is true, since universities typically are comprised of colleges and it is also usually difficult to be a student at a university without being a student at one of the colleges at/in the university.

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Nikolay Yeriomin, and Groovyvic, you both mis understand what I’m saying there. Yes, we do have universities and colleges in the U.S.A.. I had attended one. But I’m talking about the usage of the word “University” in sentences where the the exact name of the school is not being used, sentences like where the most British, Canadians, and Aussies* **, would say “While I was away at university ...”, or “I went to university”, or “I studied English Litature at university”, we Americans are more likely to say “While I was away at college ...”, “I went to college”, or “I studied English Lit. in college” even though the ‘College’ we had went to was in fact an ‘University’. In fact, is we Americans were asked the question, “What college did you go to?”, we perfectly comfortable answering Harvard, M.I.T., Yale, Princeton, De Paul, St. Xavier’s, Notre Dame, Georgetown, S.I.U. or U.C.L.A. eventhough all those answers are universities
* I know that is pretty much that is how most of the UK and members of the commonwealth uses the word “University”, because of all the BBC and Canadian programming that airs in the U.S.A., and all the British literature that also is read in America, like “Goodbye, Mr. Chips”.
** I hope that I used that right because I don’t want offend Australians.

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Sorry for all the typos. I had meant to say: “But I’m talking about the usage of the word “University” in sentences where the the exact name of the school is not being used. Sentences like where the most British, Canadians, and Aussies* **, would say “While I was away at university ...”, or “I went to university”, or “I had studied English Litature at university”, we Americans are more likely to say “While I was away at college ...”, “I went to college”, or “I had studied English Lit. in college” even though the ‘College’ we had went to was, in fact, an ‘University’. In fact, if we Americans were asked the question, “What college did you go to?”, we are perfectly comfortable answering Harvard, M.I.T., Yale, Princeton, De Paul, St. Xavier’s, Notre Dame, Georgetown, S.I.U. or U.C.L.A. eventhough all those answers are universities.”

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6 years ago

'Fun poll. It's so cool that you included one from Coco. I love Halloween polls.

And I like this: Unmask yourself here.  :)

May I suggest two small edits? ('A space before "Since" and I bolded the other edit: "mask" instead of "masks" since "types" is plural.)


Note: Since eye masks and face paint masks seam to be a large generic group of masks, a few group selections were made so this list doesn’t get bogged down with those mask types and makes room for masks that cover at least the eyes and more of the face.


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Thanks. Someone noticed that #24 says "an unicorn mask." I doubt you'll get this in time but, just in case you do, it should be "a unicorn mask."

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ruby, he knows who "someone" is. Didn't you see the whole discussion above? :)

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The poll suggester's claims about the matter are odd too, seeing as how with the exception of words formed "un" being prefixed to words that start with "i" (such as "intentional"), words that begin with "uni" always have such beginnings pronounced with a consonant sound, including "united" (at least in the standard American dialect), and naturally we pronounce and spell the singular indefinite article as "a" rather than as "an". So, for example, a federal senator would be said to be "a United States senator" (as in "a, u-ni-ted, stayts, senator", not "a, un-i-ted, stayts, senator"), not "an United States senator" (as in "an, un-ited, stayts, senator" or "an, u-ni-ted, stayts, senator"), with "senator" pronounced whichever way.

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The name of the sovereign nation is the best example of "uni" to use, since it would be basically unmistakable to a vast majority of United States citizens.

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Thank you. Now here comes my torture of picking just one. I love them all. Really! I love them all!!!

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6 years ago

I voted for Rorschach because it ́s an amazing concept... but if you ́re asking just for desing, the number one for me is the Gladiator mask in the "battle of Carthage"

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Dang that I had missed a group of masks! Or maybe that is a metal mask too.

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Congratulations dgranger on your 43rd live poll! As of 10-Oct-2018 11:10 PM Pacific your polls have 54,182 or more votes, for an average of 1,260 votes per poll.

Which Mask Hides Your Face
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This is the list of dgranger's polls as of 4-Oct-2018:

Sorted Alphabetically http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2014/05/imdb-polls-alphabetical-by-author.html#dgranger

In Decreasing Order of Votes http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2015/03/imdb-polls-descending-order-of-votes-by.html#dgranger

Alphabetical List of Polls http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2014/03/imdb-polls-alphabetical.html

Top IMDb Polls http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2015/07/top-imdb-polls.html

IMDb Polls - Descending Order of Votes http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2013/12/imdb-polls-descending-order-of-votes.html

Summary Statistics http://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2016/05/summary-statistics.html

Key Threads - IMDb Poll FAQs Index https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/faq-key-threads-imdb-poll-faqs-index

How to Improve the Chance of Having your Poll on the Home Page https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/faq-how-to-improve-the-chance-of-having-your-poll-on-the-hom...

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4 years ago

At some point between October of 2018 and September of 2020, the image (rm3202316288) for the third item of the list was deleted from IMDb and is thus missing. Does anybody remember what it looked like?