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Wednesday, November 10th, 2021 11:42 AM

Live Poll: Pop and Rock "Aristocrats" of the 1980s

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In the 1980s popular music around the world was growing strongly diverse. It was a golden era of pop and rock music, mostly recognized as that by people who are mid-agers today. In the 80s decade, Michael Jackson has even gained the title "The King of Pop". There were many several other international mainstream artists which could claim an aristocratic state, too. These are singers of the band, standing in the spotlight.

The linked YouTube-examples are representing one of many good songs of the artists, but intentionally not their greatest hits. Please try to think of further songs they did, before voting. Which of these pop stars, that had at least a part of their Golden Time in the 1980s, performed your most favorite songs?

Chant here.

Suggestions:

Please think of real dominant pop and rock icons , which have had a part of their Golden Time in the 80s. They should be a mainstream pop musician. To make it more clear: they can be any genre of music, but I don't want to get rock only bands, which only have one single hit like - for example - Kiss. They should have a strong mainstream character.  Please think of people which are examplary mainstream icons for that time period. It's about the sirs and ladys in the spot-light. So - for example - when it comes to Abba, I took Agnetha (randomly? chose her), added Anni-Frid in brackets, because both are the front singers in the spotlight. I hope I did explain it detailed enough. I'm aiming for max. 25 options each list.

P.S.: Changed the title to "Pop and Rock "Aristocrats" of the 1980s", because of pop and rock often goes hand in hand somehow.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls554712024/

Possible 2nd list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls558177096/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/7p9e-2zilcM/

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Guns Roses

Modern Talking

Nena

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erasure

baltimora 

pc lion

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starship

cher

olivia newton john

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@mariojacobs 

Mario, thank you very much for suggesting. I've instantly put Cher and Starship on the list and take the others for consideration. I've put Erasure on the list, but it's a little like Kim Wilde. She is one of the lower celebs on the list, facing Cher, Mick Jagger or Elton Jown. So Erasure is surely a typical 80s band, but I'm not really sure, if they had their best time in the 80s. I remember the "Gaudete" they released in 2013. That was a clear buy. "Always" was in the 90s. And I don't know really much songs of them. Who is PC Lion? PC who? ;)

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I think Guns n Roses is strongly konoted to rock. But they really had big song, I would count to mainstream. So I'll put them on the list. Olivia Newton John - a strong pick, an 80s icon. Woop ... on the list.

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Modern Talking, Nena. Were they really big, according to the whole world and facing Tina Turner, Phil Collins, Freddy Mercury? How big was the success of Modern Talking in the U.S.? Nena? - Maybe. Please tell me your own sight. I can read the charts, ok, but a personal view would be better, maybe.

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@Breumaster

I am not sure of the decades either, my memory can cheat me, 80s or 90s?

And it was my mistake

P. Lion -- Happy Children Video HQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ffLVMcGhE&ab_channel=MysticPlugRecordsII

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modern talking, scorpions, nena, accept, trio, fata morgana, kraftwerk, spider murphy gang: they are known worldwide, 99 luftballons in english.

Made in Germany

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls089948230/

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P.Lion: One hit wonders weren't what I had in mind.

The German artists: It's not only if they are known worldwide, it's also about not being a one hit wonder and how strong the popularity was. Sheer unbeatable: The Rolling Stones (Mick Jagger), Abba (Agnetha Fältskog), Phil Collins, Cher, ...

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Prince

boy george

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midnight oil

def leppard

fine young cannibals

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Run DMC 

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@mariojacobs 

Nope. They are clearly Rap-artist. One of the best old schoolers, I think. Very good East Coast rap. But I can comfort you - they are on an oldschool rap-arstist suggestion list of mine. Now that I skipped the "pop only"-Dogma, I can put your older suggestion Van Halen and Nazareth on the list.

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@Breumaster 

Done.

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@Breumaster 

Still working!! 😲


Mick Jagger
Born 26 July 1943 (age 78)

Spot Me Up - The Rolling Stones & Boston Dynamics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZH4izf_rI - 1:24

1,600,144 views Oct 29, 2021
  

Start Me Up - The Rolling Stones 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyOaCXr8Lw - 3:27
49,604,388 views Oct 2, 2012

 

The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up - Live - The Cotton Bowl - Dallas TX - 11-2-21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8mEFOVlppY - 4:40 (count the people there @  4:15)
11,889 views Nov 3, 2021

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_Me_Up

from their 1981 album Tattoo You.

Microsoft paid about US$3 million to use this song in their Windows 95 marketing campaign.
"You make a grown man cry",


The Rolling Stones Tickets - 'No Filter' Tour Dates 2021
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+rolling+stones+tour+2021

  
The Rolling Stones Tickets
https://www.ticketmaster.com/the-rolling-stones-tickets/artist/806216

Rolling Stones concert tour
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Filter_Tour

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Billy Joel
Born May 9, 1949 (age 72)

Billy Joel - Uptown Girl (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCuMWrfXG4E - 3:22
183,711,913 views Oct 3, 2009

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptown_Girl

released on September 29, 1983

Billy Joel tour 2021
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=billy+joel+tour+2021

Tickets
https://www.ticketmaster.com/billy-joel-tickets/artist/735392

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More from Boston Dynamics

Do You Love Me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw - 2:54

The Contours - Do You Love Me 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3zJZ2d4cis - 2:51

The Contours
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1014608/

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Off topic

brewereastbrae20
Joined Tue, Nov 9, 2021 
https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/users/618a7d89203b6a57f41c7f2e

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@ACT_1 

Thank you, ACT_1. Jagger and Joel are on the list. I just have to check the others.

I didn't hear about Boston Dynamics conciously, but maybe I heard them several

times without knowing their name. That happens, too. ;)

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@ACT_1 

Nice Videos, but that wasn't what I had in mind. It's fascinating how these robots dance and thereby won't lose their balance. Great A.I. meets Skynet Ballet. ;)

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@Breumaster 

I know that  Jagger and Joel are on your list 😃

I just added maybe better video?? 😳

(without the robots)

 

Are the other Old Folks on your list still working?? (concert tours) 🙄

Robots are not for your list .., just for your entertainment. 😁

These robots are Not a music band

they are ads for this robot company to see what this company can do

You may want to look at their site - this is Not for SPAM here

There are more YouTubes about them

Atlas | Partners in Parkour - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=boston+dynamics

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@ACT_1 

Thank you for adding a better video. I know you want to be helpful and yes, these examples are even better. When you look at the list, I didn't put the most successful video of any band in the options. That bases on the idea, that the groups shouldn't be reduced to their most successful songs, people will remember them anyway. But it's a hint for the people to think of the other great songs they did, by not keeping the mega-hits in the option. I strongly tried to put a song of every group in it's option, but not that song, everybody remembers. Else I would have put a video of It's A Kind Of Magic on the option of Freddy Mercury. But he (they) had many many other excellent songs and that's what I want the people to remember. Thank you for contributing. :)

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toto

van halen

nazareth

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@mariojacobs 

Thank you for reminding on Prince. I've put him on the list.

Toto seems to be a valid candidate, but I wonder if Chicago would do better?

I'll consider that.

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@mariojacobs 

You inspired me really good, thank you. I've also put Toto on the list, because they had real great numbers, which gained world wide recognition. I left out Van Halen, because I don't want to make a rock only list. On the other hand - Maybe I'll reconsider him later. But Chicago surely has a strongly mainstream character. So I've put Chicago on the list. They did the soundtrack in many 80s movies and were on the broadcast all the time in the 80s. I still remember. They had a good run.

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3 years ago

Changed a sentence in the intro:

"... These are singers of the band, standing in the spotlight."

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@Breumaster,

Please correct capitalization:

The linked youtube

To:

The linked YouTube

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@Jessica 

Corrected.

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@dan_dassow 

Thank you, Dan. Corrected.

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Breu, I wouldn't call Springsteen and Axl Rose pop stars, they are rock musicians.

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@Jessica 

Hm, I included them because they were so popular in the mainstream that I think they are one of them which stood on the border between sheer pop and rock. I think they broke the border with a few songs, made it fade. I know that you are deeply in love with rock. Don't you think, too, that they are pop? Like an intersection? What would you suggest? If you made up the idea, would you erase the two options? I know it's a little difficult to make up rules for working out a clear border on a fluid line.

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After the suggestion of Peter, I think you are right. Maybe it's better to kick them of the list. I'll do.

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I guess Springsteen and Axl Rose can be added again, since you've included "Rock".

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@Jessica 

Sure. I added them on the second list. Just got to complete it. We surely will find up to 11 further  candidates for the second list to reach 25 options. I think it would be too hard for many users to vote one of 35 candidates from only one list, because there are real heavyweiths of pop and rock on the first list. So Springsteen and Rose got better chances on the second list. I just got to work it out, but got no time at the moment. In 10 hours I might have more time to do. Thank you. 

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@Jessica 


Done.

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FYC:

Julio Iglesias for an additional international flavor

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@Peter_pbn 

I just searched for his 80s songs. They are all clearly chanson. Like Gilbert Becaud or Mirreile Mathieu. Even though I wondered that he had sung with Diana Ross. I don't see the crossing of the border by his music. I know my mother heard him and the others I named and many more of them. Might it be that you mixed him up with his son? His son Enrique Iglesias (Discography) did pop later in the 1990s, 2000s, 2010s.

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Of course I'm not.

In the Latin direction there was also Gloria Estefan.

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There are still 23 good picks on the list, and 23 is a good number. If there are no more unambiguous examples of "pop aristocrats" for the list, I'd declare it as ready to go. Except in the case of corrections to do.

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@Breumaster 

Just remembered another decent pop duke ... or at least baron: Sting! ---> Nothing like the sun

A hand full of hits on one album in 1987. And further ones on other albums.

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@Breumaster 

Again another duke and his staff. David Gahan from Depeche Mode. Reached 25 options. for further options, I'd make up a second list. The 80s were stuffed with good pop music.

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Added a 2nd link for a possible 2nd poll.

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Maybe you should mention The Police in Sting's entry. He was part of the band until 1986, and some of his biggest hits was with them.

FYC:

The Bangles, Susanna Hoffs or Victoria Peterson could represent them. They have hit songs like Eternal Flame, Manic Monday, Walk Like and Egyptian that remain popular.

Lionel Richie All Night Long, Say You Say Me

Cindy Lauper True Colors, Girls Just Wanna Have Fun

Bonnie Tyler Total Eclipse of the Heart, Holding Out for a Hero

If you want to go international, Timbiriche songs are still heard in most parties in Mexico and they marked a generation. I think Paulina Rubio might be their best known member

In Spain, Mecano was a big hit and their songs were also big hits in Latin America, they even made a stage play with their music that has been performed since 2006, their singer was Ana Torroja

I would say the Stones had their best known work before the 80s, and that they are better known as rock musicians rather than pop, but if you include them, then maybe Paul McCartney should also be there, after he broke with the Wings he recorded Ebony and Ivory and No More Lonely Nights among others in the 80s

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@Pencho15 

Thank you. I got less time at the moment, but I'll keep up the line later. Please feel free to do more suggestions. I'll surely will consider them.

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@Breumaster Have you decided about the options or do you consider this ready? 

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@Pencho15 

Hi, Pencho. I'm sorry for reacting so late, but I had a bad week, with an also bad peak at the end. I will put most of your suggestions on the 2nd list and added a "Formation :"-line on Sting, for his work in the group The Police on the 1st list. I think the first list is ready to go!

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Because of Pop and Rock often goes hand in hand, I changed the title to:

International Pop and Rock "Aristocrats" of the 1980s

P.S.:

I also skipped the word "International", because it has no use. It's mainstream anyway! So now it's:

"Pop and Rock "Aristocrats" of the 1980s"

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@Breumaster 

Shortened a sentence:

"It was a golden era of pop music, mostly recognized as that by people who are mid-agers today."

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@Breumaster 

Also shortened another sentence:

"These are guys of the band who stand in the spotlight."