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Saturday, December 30th, 2017 7:51 AM

Live Poll: Murder By Author

Which one of these mystery writers' work would you like to see made into a movie? Their detective characters are mentioned in the notes.
Follow the clues here.
Let's start this off with the man whose works created the genre with the stories "Murders In The Rue Morgue", "The Mystery of Marie Roget", "The Purloined Letter", "The Gold Bug", "Thou Art the Man" and "The Man of the Crowd".
The list is here: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls027993837/
Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/Bc_Q9xJut4g/

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7 years ago

Nice idea and good title.

I thought you might exclude those who have already been made into theatrical movies in recent years. Might make the results more interesting without Holmes, especially.

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First, Happy New Year everybody!
While I do agree that I definately need more new current writers*, may I point out that there are two points that argue against your statement.
1) this a person poll. That means that in order for a name to appear on this poll, a movie or T.V. Has been already made from there work.
2) in the case of Sir Arthur Canon Doyle's Sherlock Holmes, and any detective of Agataha Christie, with the success of the current screen version of "Murder On The orient Express",the BBC's Sherlock and CBS' elementary, and the last two Holmes movies, it would argue that these characters are still hot properties and there is still an audience out there waiting to see these characters. The books are still selling in bookstore more than 50 years after the author's death! It would be wrong not to include them. They are still hot properties today.

p.s., this is meant for mystery writers whose detectives first appeared in literature first before any movies and television adaptations.

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I agree that removing everyone who has had films or TV made from their stories would be difficult and would mostly leave obscure names. That's why I mentioned recent movies.

If you want to keep all of them, then perhaps a note in the question would help: Some of these mystery writers' work have been adapted many times, others rarely. Whose work would you like to see made into a new movie?

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'Great poll! I think Peter's idea would make it even better; also, right now, you have one too many options. Oh, and I love the title!

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"in the case of Sir Arthur Canon Doyle's Sherlock Holmes, and any detective of Agataha Christie, with the success of the current screen version of "Murder On The orient Express",the BBC's Sherlock and CBS' elementary, and the last two Holmes movies, it would argue that these characters are still hot properties and there is still an audience out there waiting to see these characters. The books are still selling in bookstore more than 50 years after the author's death! It would be wrong not to include them. They are still hot properties today."

A possible error in chronology:
*Arthur Conan Doyle died in 1930. As of 2018, 88 years have passed since his death.
*Agatha Christie died in 1976. As of 2018, 42 years have passed since her death. A half-century has not passed since her demise. 

With Christie, her characters have varying popularity. 
*Hercule Poirot has received several adaptations in film, television, anime, manga, and radio.
*Miss Jane Marple has received several adaptations in film, television, anime, and radio. She has only made a one-shot appearance in a manga: "Case Closed."
*Tommy and Tuppence (nicknames of Thomas Beresford and Prudence Cowley) have received a few film adaptations, two short-lived television adaptations, and a 1950s radio adaptation. One of their novels has been adapted as a Miss Marple story for television. 
*Ariadne Oliver, as a prominent supporting character for Poirot, has been depicted several times in adaptations. However, the novel "The Pale Horse" (1961) where she is in the main cast and Poirot does not appear at all, has received only two television adaptations. Both television adaptations omit Oliver entirely. 
*Superintendent Battle had main roles in four Christie novels and starred in a fifth novel. They have all received adaptations, but Battle is usually either demoted to an extra or omitted entirely. 
*Parker Pyne starred in several short stories by Christie. Two of them were adapted fot television in the 1980s, but otherwise there is little interest in this character. The main curiosity of this sub-series is that Miss Felicity Lemon (Pyne's secretary) was later reintroduced by Christie as Hercule Poirot's secretary. Lemon has received expanded roles in several adaptations.
*Mr. Harley Quin and his partner Mr. Satterthwaite appeared i several short stories by Christie, and Sattertwaite had a crossover with Hercule Poirot in the novel "Three Act Tragedy" (1934) (where they are partners for the duration of the novel). The stories have received a single film adaptation in 1928, and the plot barely resembles the original. One of the problems with adapting this series is that Harley Quinn does not seem to be human. He is supposedly some kind of supernatural entity who gives cryptic clues to Sattertwaite, and expects him to intervene in the lives of others. The story "Harlequin's Lane" also implies that Harley Quinn is a personification of Death in disguise. 
*Colonel Race had major roles in four Christie novels, although he is the real protagonist only in "Sparkling Cyanide" (1945). He has been depicted in adaptations several times, but rarely as their main character. One complain with this character is that he is not fully fleshed out. He is not a detective, he is an MI5 agent and rarely offers information about himself in his appearances.
*Lady Eileen "Bundle" Brent had protagonist roles in two Christie novels, but never appeared in anything else. There have been two television adaptations featuring Brent, but one of them is an in-name-only adaptation where she is a Miss Marple supporting character.

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What about MC Beaton??

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7 years ago

You have the wrong Craig Johnson (Longmire) on your list. This is the correct one.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4305652

I agree with Peter that you should only do authors whose works haven't widely been turned into movies. Otherwise, it seems silly to do the list as is.

FYC (for a start):
Louise Penny
Karin Slaughter
Rachel Caine
JD Robb (Nora Roberts AKA when writing mysteries)
Jane Harper
Greg Iles
Chevy Stevens
Sarah Pinborough
John Sandford
Brian Freeman
Joe Ide
Robert Bryndza
JD Barker
George Pelecanos
Lene Kaaberbøl and Agnete Friis

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Corrected

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Jen, some of yours are added here.
As I said to Peter, the problem with this list is that in order for an author's name to appear on this list through the IMDB's search engine, something has to be made using that author's work. This prevented me from adding one that I had really wanted on here - C. J. Box and his Joe Pickett novels (22 of them). But no movie or t.v. show has been made from them.
Well anyway, do you approve of the ones I had listed other than the ones you had suggested?

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You could just find photos that could work for authors who don't have titles yet.

As far as your question, I still think you should not include anyone who always has some movies made. Keeping them in you're basically just asking, "which writer has the best movies made of their books...and here are some other authors too."

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"This prevented me from adding one that I had really wanted on here - C. J. Box and his Joe Pickett novels (22 of them). But no movie or t.v. show has been made from them. "

Yet. Box has sold rights for the film or television adaptations of at least 4 of his novels, but no adaptation has materialized at this point. 

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7 years ago

So many geniuses but I gotta go with Agatha Christie. Love Chandler's stuff too though.

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7 years ago

Robert Langdon

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7 years ago

Like I said above in a response to a post by Peter, I think this is really good. I think it could be even better with Peter's suggestion and also maybe rearranging the choices just a bit so that an option without an image isn't up quite so close to the beginning (#7). I like how you spaced out the no-photo options with the photos in between but I'd suggest moving a few more of the options with images up.

Oh, and right now there are 36 options. Could you remove one? I'd suggest one with no image if possible. Thanks, granger! : )

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I had moved them all up. Believe me when I say this, I didn't mean the ones with pictures with the ones without one. It just happened that way. The ones I wanted to bury down the lists Doyle and Christie so that you would have to go through the others before you get to them because they are so well known and might steal the poll. I couldn't leave them off their detectives are still hot properties today.
The shocking part of this list is the lack of photographs of the authers! Some of these were responsible for some of the most iconic characters in Hollywood history! I mean how many movies were made about Charlie Chan? But yet the IMDb does not have Biggers' photo. Or Perry Mason! Remember how big Perry Mason was? But yet there is no picture of the Mason's creator, Gardner. (I tried to submit a totality free photo of him today. I hope it gets accepted.) Dorothy L. Seyers, a classic mystery writer - no picture. Then there are the bestselling and still living modern writers like Hoag, Clarke, Patterson, Roberts, and Fluke whose faces are printed on the back or in the back of every single book they write. It is not hard to find a picture of their faces. But how to submit a scan of their portraits photos without violating some kind of copyright law?
But the one that makes me go "Arrrrgh!" i Mickey Spillane. Go click on his name to bring up his IMDb page. See that black and white photo of a guy and a girl? That's Mickey Spillane! They got his picture but they won't use it as his portrait photo on the page. So close and yet so far......... AAAAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!
This is outrageous!
Also what is taking so long is that I am going other things. One of them is a poll on "A Christmas Carol" (Which will be 175 years old this Dec 19, 2018) . I'm passionate on "A Christmas Carol" and I know that Dickens did not like people plagiarizing it or messing around with it by adding characters or events that he didn't write. He had only tolerated theatrical plays of it only because of two reasons. 1) back in his day, he had no means of stopping it and even students were adapting it for school plays. 2) The plays had helped popularize and promoted the sales of the book. The question is "Which traditional telling of "A Christmas Carol" do you think Charles Dickens would approve of?"

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"But the one that makes me go "Arrrrgh!" i Mickey Spillane. "

Wikipedia has only two photos of Spillane:
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mickey_Spillane_Columbo_1974.JPG
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Spillane#/media/File:Lieutenant_Frank_Spillane,_USAAF_Instructo...g

You may also search for Spillane photos in websites concerning 1940s comic books and their creators. He was a comic book writer before becoming a novelist:

"Spillane started as a writer for comic books. While working as a salesman in Gimbels department store basement in 1940, he met tie salesman Joe Gill, who later found a lifetime career in scripting for Charlton Comics. Gill told Spillane to meet his brother, Ray Gill, who wrote for Funnies Inc., an outfit that packaged comic books for different publishers. Spillane soon began writing an eight-page story every day. He concocted adventures for major 1940s comic book characters, including Captain Marvel, Superman, Batman and Captain America. Two-page text stories, which he wrote in the mid-1940s for Timely, appeared under his name and were collected in ''Primal Spillane'' (Gryphon Books, 2003)."

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7 years ago

Update: I had the wrong entry for James Patterson, the writer. I have found the right one. And this one has his picture. Good, one less to look up and try to submit to the IMDb.

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7 years ago

I had to remove Stieg Larsson, died after a short career as a mystery novelist, and all his works got to the screen.

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7 years ago

I would love to see Isaac Asimov 's Murder at the ABA made into a film. It's probable better suited for a television movie rather than a theatrical film. The book has the general feel of a Murder, She Wrote episode.
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Murder-at-Aba-Isaac-Asimov/dp/0449213080
World Cat: https://www.worldcat.org/title/murder-at-the-aba/oclc/948441969

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So would I.

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dgrange,

Who would you cast as Darius Just?

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Really, I don’t know. I would take an actor known for playing intelligent roles. My personal favorites are too old and tall for the part. The character is based on Harlan Ellison. My personal favorites in the brainy actor mode are Anthony Hopkins (too old for the part (TOFTP), Donald Sutherland - TOFTP, and Roddy McDowall - TOFTP and dead (Basil Rathbone too),
I know, amoungst the living:
Russell Crowe, Denis Quaid (I love everything he does), Mark Wahlberg, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jonny Lee Miller, Paul Brittney, Gary Oldman, and ( may the IMDb fans forgive me for saying this) Kevin Costner,
Off beat casting, Richard Dreyfus

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7 years ago

Thanks but I was hoping more pictures of the authors would be on it. It is really a shame that the IMDB doesn’t have photos of the more classic ones, and the more modern ones have their photos in every book but those are under copyright.

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7 years ago

Whoever got the pictures, ( i’m Guessing Dan or Jen), a huge harry thank you. Every time I had tried it, I got denied.

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Welcome!

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7 years ago

I don't get this shotgun list of authors whose collective bibliographies have been adapted dozens and dozens of times to the silver screen, let alone the small TV screen.

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Part of the research was to walk into an actual bookstore and library to see if these authors are still selling. Aka, are they still hot properties.

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Also checking out the few video store still left in business.

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7 years ago

Hey, here is a new one for you guys, but it is too late to add too this list.
Nora Roberts isn’t the only one who uses a pseudonym when writing detective mysteries. Right now reading a book called “The Cuckoo’s Calling” by Robert Galbraith. Guess who Robert Galbraith really is. I’ll give you a hint: She wrote about a young wizard who was known to be “The boy who lived” after being attacked by he who must not be named. Any guesses who Robert Galbraith is????

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Congratulations dgranger on your 26th live poll! As of 23-Feb-2018 4:10 AM Pacific your polls have 29,174 or more votes, for an average of 1,122 votes per poll.

Murder By Author
6197th Live Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/Bc_Q9xJut4g/

This is the 782nd People poll. Such polls have a total of 1,454,435 votes for an average of 1,860 votes per poll.
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Thank you again!!!