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Saturday, December 14th, 2019 8:43 PM

Live Poll: Most Overrated Movie of 2019

It is about to end this 2019, it has left us great movies, but since the cinema is subjective we probably found them overrated movies. What do you think was the most overrated movie of this 2019? As much as by the public as by the critics.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls091486020/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/1WOa8Imh8PI/

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'Good poll and, although I think most of the films on the list are quite good, it's a good list of options for this particular poll.

'Pain and Glory' is listed twice, though, so please remove one. It couldn't go live with a duplicate listing. I usually abhor unsolicited advice so I try not to give it but here's just a small tip that might make things easier: I usually put my lists in alphabetical order for a few reasons, one of which is that it's almost impossible to have a duplicate listing if the movies are in alphabetical order. 

Here are a few suggested edits to the intro: (Edits in bold below)

2019 has ended. It left us with some great movies but since the cinema is subjective we probably found overrated movies, too. What do you think was the most overrated movie of 2019? (Overrathed as much by the public as by the critics.)

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Thanks for catch this, Rub :D

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I like some of his movies, they were interesting, but ...

I think 'Once Upon a Time in Hollywood' is truely overrated. I don't say it's crap. And I knew before that Tarantino always uses very graphic violence. Beside the overwhelming barefoot shots, it is a brand sign of Tarantino to use overwhelming graphic "shocking" violence.

There were several good scenes in the movie, which I liked, but for me it was somehow too longwinded. I would rather have seen the story he wrote, before it got stolen. :( The more Tarantino movies I watch, the more they seem equal. Build up a bad person and at the end destroy it as bad as you can. Violence theme park. ;D

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Joe, please make the edits ruby suggested.

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Done :D

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Thanks. I noticed a typo: Overrated as much by the public as by the critics.

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It's fixed, thanks for catch this, Jess.

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Congrats!

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Thanks :D

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I've got to choose between Us and Joker.

Everyone thinks Us opens up after its intro and evolves everything set up into some magical mush of greatness, but I think the opening promises something great and quite a few of the "twists" are like taken straight out of a cheap 1970 horror movie.

Joker has some nice performance, but the film is literally being carried by Phoenix. The way he portrays things is great, but not the plot itself. It comes along as a very dry documentary with a logical sequence of things happening and then, in the end, the movie is like: this is how a villain could be born these days... and I'm like: no shit. It's said to be complex and so much more than your average superhero film, but I can't say it's any less by the numbers than e.g. the last Thor movie.

I would never label either of these movies "bad", but both cap at maybe 7/10 for me. I'll still vote for Joker, as Us gave me an interesting world to dive into and was overall, in some ways, very creative. Joker on the other hand is just trivia thrown at you with some acting power and budget to back it up.
The few pieces in this movie one might consider creative and thought enforcing (SPOILER___________ you know, the hallucinations n' stuff__________) are, in my honest opinion, even worse than the trivia itself. You could make an argument that these scenes and resulting interpretations gonna help you understand Arthur even better, but I really think they are just there because hey, everything being a dream is so cool and I've never seen it in any other movie before. It reuses too many elements and implements too many things I'm not even entirely sure why they're there. Hell, I think the entire thing would probably be better if it was not about the Joker but really some random guy. It'd likely make less money because of course it would, but then the outstandingly pointless scenes about Bruce wouldn't be there, and you could actually tell a story which surprises you at some point, instead of a movie where you know many things in advance anyway.

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Yes, what bothered me most about Joker, was that this is not the Joker we know, it can't even be Joker, I know that Todd Phillips said he was trying to do something unique but he made a Joker who can't face Batman or even more remote reality, Arthur is built as a character with mental problems and even there, does Arthur have the skills to face Batman? Arthur is a weak character that only has flaws, I do not see him putting Batman in a dead-end situation like the Joker of Heath Ledger, or conquering the soul of Gothic, this configuration of the character does not have much future how villain as I see it.

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joe siegel, allow me to disagree slightly on this one. Arthur is very much skilled, to a point that he seems to be nearly unaware that he is. Not only years upon years of abuse shaped him into someone who can shrug off being hit by a car (ironic coming from me: did exactly that once, can at least confirm it's not that easy of a task) and most forms of physical damage, when he's not on his meds, he's alarmingly smart in addition of being psychotic and... talented

It is a clear point in the movie: he holds on to remnants of his mental health, despite meds not only restricting his illness, but also his personality. He's let loose through the course of the movie and also stops holding on to his mental health. Immediately his mind reshapes to its primal damaged form and allows him to sneak into guarded building with ease, improvise weapons on spot, manipulate a situation in the crowd making a clear getaway from police for oneself etc. He pretty much allows to arrest himself to prove a point: he surrenders the gun which makes his murders easily connected a proven to simply and elegantly say to the crowds that he's the real deal. All that while the subway scene easily demonstrates that he treats crowd of followers as disposable at worst and audience at best which is... A very Joker moment. 

It, of course, depends on this universe's version of Batman, but I have a feeling this version of Joker is still a very real threat, especially if it's also going to evolve in the few years. Despite being thirty-something closing in on forties, Arthur is a very quick leaner, as well.  

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