Face-Off: Saving Private Ryan vs. Greyhound

I know the outcome of the if poll, but I posted it here, because:

1) There is no a lot of polls about new releases.

2)  No war movies could beat Saving Private Ryan, but to know how good Greyhound is. It is interesting to see how many votes can it get against a 20 years old classic.

It is the same thing when we put The Dark Knight against any new superhero film. We know that The Dark Knight is the top of the top, and we only want to see how close to the top can this new superhero movie gets.

I get your point... I just have a strange bias against new films in the sense that I don't know whether they're popular or simply overhyped... that said, I might vote for "Greyhound" because I didn't like "SPR" much.

Maybe you should just write that the films are the 2 highest rated Hanks war movies...

Maybe you should just write that the films are the 2 highest rated Hanks war movies...

Done

Thanks...

“ No war movies could beat Saving Private Ryan,”
- “Schindler’s List”
- “The Dirty Dozen”
- The Bridge in the River Kiwi

1) Schindler's List is not tagged as war.
2) The Dirty Dozen and The Bridge on the River Kwai are far from having the number of votes and the rating of Saving Private Ryan.

That is because they are older films from the 60s and 50s. The older films, before creation of the IMDb tend to get few votes, unless it is from cinephiles and older film fans
Also, how in the hell could a films about Nazi concentration camps or even prisoner of war camps not be a war film????
Then, by that logic, these are not war films too.
-The Night and the fog, Stalag 17, the wooden horse, the great escape, empire of the sun, Von Ryan’s express, the boy in the striped pajamas, the bridge on the River Kwai, and more.
In fact, I see the possibility of to more polls here of one of witch I will ask when I get home tonight after work! - “Yes or no, do you consider Schindler’s List a war movie?“

It's precisely this "war" issue that decided me to suggest the following poll recently:
https://m.imdb.com/poll/OmJ8RiWnpfw/

But I consider them war movies.

Your list reminded me of a few to put into the other poll! Thank you!
I consider them war films too! Also check “The Killing Fields”. It has the same genre listings as Schindler’s List does.

It would surely be a more interesting face-off, but once again, Greyhound would be buried into a meaningless percentage, I think your idea should be done separately.

Greyhound is a decent film, but it is going to a distant whatever no matter what. The fact that it is going to be outclassed by these others is more a reflection of how far above they are, rather than how far below it is. It will lucky to get 10% of the vote no matter how it is split out(2 says or 4 ways)

I disagree

Saving Private Ryan, The Pacific, Greyhound, Band of Brothers: I estimate 8% of the votes for Greyhound.

Saving  Private Ryan vs. Greyhound: I  estimate between  20% to 35% for Greyhound.

Because I have rarely/never seen a 90% landside in favor of a single option, the closest I remember is the 87% of Hayao Miyazaki in Directors' Perfect Resumes (without doing research).

cinephile,

As you point out it is rare that one choice dominates a poll. I keep track of hotly contested polls and conversely polls in which one choice dominates a poll. These two blog entries sort polls by descending order of contention via two different metrics.

Towards the end of list are the polls in which a single choice dominates the poll. Unfortunately, during April through June of 2018, spammers created multiple accounts to vote for a film and tried to hide their activity by voting for the first choice in around 100 polls. As a result, the votes in these polls are invalid.

A primary example is this poll in which Bob McGrath receives 98% of the votes:
Most Beloved Human Resident of "Sesame Street"
https://www.imdb.com/poll/_F0KtPSxzs4/results

I've considered removing these polls from the statistics. Unfortunately, I do not have an accurate means of determine which polls have been affected.

= = =

They use different ways to determine which polls do not have a clear choice:

By Contention
Uses the formula:
V1/VT - 1/N

Where:
V1 - Number of votes for the first choice.
VT - Total number of choices
N - Number of choices

The values range from 0 to 1. When the value is zero the votes are evenly distributed between the choices. When the value is one, only the first choice has votes.

Hotly Contested
Uses the ratio of the top two choices in a poll (V1/V2). The values range from 1 to infinity. When that ratio is one the poll is hotly contested between the top two choices.

Where:
V1 - Number of votes for the first choice.
V2 - Number of votes for the second choice.