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No, "Betty Boop" was not a TV series in 1930
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15180956/ is a supposed TV series titled "Betty Boop" which supposedly debuted in 1930.
As I'm sure everyone reading this already knows, television broadcasting existed on only a very limited basis in 1930. The Betty Boop series of theatrical short films began in 1930 -- these films were not broadcast on television until years later.
What's worse, apparently every Betty Boop theatrical cartoon has been converted into an episode of the supposed TV series -- they are no longer entered as theatrical films. I was just looking for The Old Man of the Mountain (1933) and didn't see it at first, because it had been listed as a TV episode (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0024404/) instead of a film.
This isn't even the first time someone has created a pseudo-TV series for "Betty Boop" starting in 1930. As discussed in the thread here, there was another entry for "Betty Boop" (1930) in 2019, which was deleted. Why was this series allowed to be re-created when it was already determined to be an invalid entry before?
IMDb claims to be "the world's most popular and authoritative source for information on movies, TV shows and celebrities." Yet how can IMDb be considered authoritative if it doesn't demonstrate basic knowledge of television history, like when television came into common use?
As I've said before, any television program submitted to the database with a start date in the 1930s or earlier ought to be scrutinized by an IMDb staffer to see whether it actually existed or has been submitted erroneously. In this case, the submission was erroneous.
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TV Series ? ?
Popeye the Sailor (1960-1962)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145628/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145628/reference
Jack Mercer ... Popeye (220 episodes, 1960-1962)
Actor: Short (515 credits) - Popeye (voice) Find 136
Actor: TV ( 18 credits)
Mae Questel ... Olive Oyl (192 episodes, 1960-1962)
( also ... Betty Boop voice )
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Time to bump this thread. After four months, every one of the misdescribed "television series" I mentioned in this thread is still incorrectly listed in the database.
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I'd like IMDb to share a list of their priorities. From a contributor perspective, they don't seem to have them straight, but given the fact we don't get all the information, that remains an assumption. So IMDb, can you either share more information with us or fix important issues faster please?
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This thread has been around for six months, and not one of the incorrectly classified "TV series" that I identified has been removed yet. How much research does it take to realize that "Betty Boop" was not a TV series in 1930, nor were the other theatrical cartoon series currently listed as being TV series in the 1930s?
And, keep in mind, this isn't even the first time that a "Betty Boop" TV series from 1930 was included in the database -- see the thread at https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/television-series-from-before-television-broadcasting-began/5f4a7a328815453dba9da909 for a prior discussion from 2019. Since that TV series was determined to be an error before, it should not have been accepted upon re-submission.
As I said before, we need the software to flag any submission of a TV series from before 1940 or so and require it to be reviewed by a knowledgeable editor before it is included in the database, because the chance that such a submission is an error would be quite high.
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We are now more than seven months into this discussion thread, and all of the incorrectly listed "TV series" that I mentioned in this thread are still listed as TV series. Is there anything that we can do to escalate this problem to get it fixed?
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It's now been eight months since I raised this problem and no progress appears to have been made toward fixing it.
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The Little Rascals (1955-1955)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278213/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278213/reference/
Television syndication package of the classic 1929-1938 shorts
from the "Our Gang Comedies" movie series.
Wally Albright ... Orphan (1955) (archiveFootage) (unknown episodes)
Sherwood Bailey ... Sherwood 'Spud' (1955) (archiveFootage) (unknown episodes)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278213/trivia
This television package includes every sound Hal Roach-produced Our Gang comedy,...
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278213/episodes?season=1
S1, Ep1 School's Out 1955
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7039354/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7039354/reference/
It looks like we don't have any Cast and Crew for this title yet.
S1, Ep2 Fly My Kite
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7039362/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7039362/reference/
It looks like we don't have any Cast and Crew for this title yet.
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School's Out (1930)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021339/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021339/reference/
20min Comedy, Family 22 Nov 1930 (USA) Short
Matthew 'Stymie' Beard ... Hercules (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
Norman 'Chubby' Chaney ... Chubby Chaney (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
Jackie Cooper ... Jackie Cooper (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
Fly My Kite (1931)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021878/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021878/reference/
20min Family, Comedy 30 May 1931 (USA) Short
Matthew 'Stymie' Beard ... Stymie (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
Norman 'Chubby' Chaney ... Chubby (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
Dorothy DeBorba ... Dorothy (as Hal Roach's Rascals)
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Little Rascals: Best of Our Gang (1930)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3124676/reference/
Not Rated 1h 24min Comedy, Family 01 Jul 2008 (USA) Movie
Cast
Eugene 'Porky' Lee
George 'Spanky' McFarland
Carl 'Alfalfa' Switzer
Billie 'Buckwheat' Thomas
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3124676/trivia
The "1930" production date for this title is actually impossible,
since at least one of the cast members,
Billie 'Buckwheat' Thomas, was not born until 1931.
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We are now past nine months since this thread started and none of the bogus TV series I mentioned have yet been removed from the database.
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