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Live Poll: Is Schindler’s List a War Movie?
While in a discussion on cinephile’s proposed poll “Face-Off: Saving Private Ryan vs. Greyhound”*, he informed me that Schindler's List (1993) was not tagged as a “War Movie” in it’s “genres” listing. In fact, it is listed as a “Biography | Drama | History“. We are not debating why the IMDb chose these three. The question is “Yes or No, no in-betweens, do YOU think “Schindler’s List” is a war movie?” Discuss your opinions here. Related polls: Poll: Best Picture Nominated Wartime Movies by ElMaruecan82 * I hope that poll goes live so it can be listed here as related.
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ElMaruecan82
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"War movies are a genre depicting real-life wars from the perspective of those who fought in it"
So maybe "Stalag 17" and "Casablanca" qualify (prisoners and resistant members were fighters) but not "Schindler's List" or "Life is Beautiful" (the protagonists were not fighters)
So maybe it's a matter of perspective: is the main protagonist a fighter or not?
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dgranger
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Do you have a military character through which you see the war from his point of view too? Yes! Amon Goeth! In fact, not only were the concentration camps were a military operations, it was a part a German soldiers term of duty if he was on leave from the front for battle fatigue.
Was there armed resistance to the Germans mentioned In the film? yes but it was thin. Also, in war films, scenes of military operations can substitute for battle scenes. You got a very violent one in liquidation of the Krakow ghetto. There is your battle scene.
The most important point is, “ In October 1943, US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Josef Stalin signed the Moscow Declaration of German Atrocities. The declaration stated that at the time of an armistice, Germans deemed responsible for atrocities, massacres or executions would be sent back to those countries in which the crimes had been committed in order to be judged and punished according to the laws of the nation concerned. “Major” war criminals, whose crimes could be assigned no particular geographic location, would be punished by joint decisions of the Allied governments. The trials of leading German officials before the International Military Tribunal (IMT), the best known of the postwar war crimes trials, took place in Nuremberg, Germany, before judges representing the Allied powers.
Between October 18, 1945, and October 1, 1946, the IMT tried 22 "major" war criminals on charges of crimes against peace, war crimes, and crimes against humanity, and conspiracy to commit such crimes. The IMT defined crimes against humanity as "murder, extermination, enslavement, deportation...or persecutions on political, racial, or religious grounds." ” https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conten...
In short, for World War 2, the attempted genocide of the Jews is not only a crime against humanity but also a war crime that can not be separated from the war. You got a whole film that filled from end to end with depictions of war crimes. How can you have a film filled with war crimes and not call it a war film?
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Source: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/genres/GZDRMS6R742JRGAG?ref_=helpsrall#war
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rubyfruit76
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Perhaps it all comes down to this perception: whether both "sides" must use violence or mass violence for it to be a war. Then, of course, in the case of 'Schindler's List,' the matter is further complicated by the fact that there is what anyone would call a war going on that directly involves many of the characters and indirectly involves and impacts all of the characters. All of the characters are also aware of the war and that influences their psyches and behavior. The more I think about it, the more I think "definitely; it's a war movie," as well as biographical, historical, and a drama.
'Interesting discussion.
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please remove "I hope that poll goes live so it can be listed here as related" so it can go live. : )
Oh, and also please put 'Schindler's List' in single quote marks in the title for the same reason. Thank you!
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Jessica
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was not tagged as a “War Movie” in its “genres” listing.
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Is ‘Schindler’s List’ a War Movie?
Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/EZC3LwQUz5I/
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