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Updates to the Ratings pages and functionality

Today we have made several updates to our Ratings pages and functionality. We have improved the design of the ratings details page to give it a cleaner, more modern look.


We have also made several changes, listed below. These changes only impact the Your Ratings page on the IMDb desktop Website. You may find much of this information by creating and running custom searches on the AdvancedTitle Search page. For example, to see comedy titles you have rated, sorted by your rating, see this advancedsearch. Or, to see titles you have rated that are in the IMDb Top250 list, see this advancedsearch.





What did we change?

1.     We removed the Compact list view. This was accessible from the far right icon (see A in the screen capture below). The grid view and detailed list view are still available.

2.     We updated the “Sort by” dropdown box. It now provides the two most popular choices: Most Recent (previously called Recently Rated) and Top Rated (previously Your Rating). Sort by: Your rating, Title A-Z, Release date (US),Number of votes, IMDb rating, and Popularity were removed. See B in the screen capture below.

3.     We removed the Refine ratings filters options from the Your Ratings page on the desktop site. See C in the screen capture below.

4.     We removed the Find More Titles tab. See D in the screen capture below.









5.     We removed the Recommended for You section on the User/Ratings page.

6.     We changed the format of data in the Ratings Export. You can export your ratings to Excel by clicking the new overflow menu (the 3 vertical dots) above your list in the updated experience, and choosing Export.

There are many ways to find new titles to watch. IMDb users can use Advanced Search, look through the recommendations for new titles to watch under People who liked this also liked... on any title page, or see Top Rated Movies.

Thank you for your continued support.


Karen


 

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Thank you for the ongoing feedback on ratings (and a reminder to see https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 for the wider context).

This is an update for January 19. Already implemented:
  • We switched "Load more" to "Previous | Next" pagination
  • We addressed issues with the export of large ratings lists
  • We added "Date of Your Rating" sorts (in both directions) to advanced search at http://www.imdb.com/search/title
  • We fixed a bug to preserve the sort order beyond page one
This work is in-progress between now and the end of March:
  • 'Filter by ratings number' so you can see everything you have rated a certain number, e.g., all titles you have rated '8'  [DONE]
  • 'Add date of ratings' so you can see when you rated a title [DONE]

Ideas for the long term:

Please bear with us while we work through the above list (and equivalent lists for other impacted features). Our aim remains to make IMDb the best place to rate movies, shows (and other title types) both on the web and on mobile.

IMDb user Dan Dassow has compiled a useful tutorial on using ratings (and other features) at https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/tutorial-workarounds

Finally, please note that ratings can be filtered and sorted via advanced title search at http://www.imdb.com/search/title via the "Your Ratings" section using the option "Restrict to titles I've seen" -- search results there can be saved as bookmarks/favorites.

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Just a FYI on this; the options for both directions are there, but both options yield an ascending list, so one of the ways is not working as intended. The same applies to "Your rating", both options yielding ascending lists (low to high).

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At last! Export of my ratings works. I could not do that since I have had about 10,000+ rated titles, and now it works! Great news!

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Any word on whether or not the ability to refine lists by height will be reinstated? 

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Hi Cartman_1337. Thx for pointing that out -- it's a quick fix so we're working on it now. You can still change the sort order on the results page too.

Hi Paul. Refine by height isn't currently on our list of planned updates. The team does watch the Ideas threads on GetSat, so you may want to add it there for future consideration.

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Karen, why was it taken away?  The ability to sort by height was around for 15 years existed until 2-3 weeks ago.  One could look at the list of people born on any particular day and one of the sort parameters was "height:".  One could click on people's lists and one of the sort parameters was 'height'.  So, I wouldn't consider it an update so much as restoring ability that should never have been taken away.

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I am still waiting for a response to my comment about why the ability to sort by height was removed after 15 years of being available.

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Hi everyone. Here is the update for the week ending Jan 26.
  • You can now see the date that you rated a title on Your Ratings page

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Great news, thanks a lot.

Could you return at the top right of the any list the percent chart  of voted titles?

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Karen, Official Rep

On my screens, which are 15.6", this information is on its OWN double-spaced line.

We don't need these listings to be longer. This should have been placed NEXT to the rating itself. It would easily fit even if you gave us back the graphical representation of our rating AND the average user rating,

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not really helpful when you have to scroll through a few thousand titles...

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Hi @sss sss. We aren't working on bringing that back right now, but I will add it to our list for future consideration. Thanks for suggesting.

Hi @bderoes. Thanks for your continued feedback. The page design is still a little in flux as we continue to make updates; the placement isn't final.

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Good to hear the placement isn't final.

As Larry Yoshida points out, having this data here has limited use without the Refine and Sort features of a custom list. 

I have always had to keep an Export of my ratings on my laptop just to answer the question "when did I see this film last?" If the date of rating were shown on the title page, that would be very useful. So would showing it on a custom list (#6). But hopefully always with an eye to keep the display as small as possible without confusion.

P.S. I'm glad to see you're providing weekly status reports, and especially that you did so before Friday so you can respond to comments more quickly.

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Hi Karen,

It's sad to hear and see that the date you are publishing or providing, is the date when I rated a title, THE LAST TIME. Instead, you should provide the date when a user rated the title for THE FIRST TIME. This is for two reasons:-
  • This functionality is not properly implemented. There is a bug. So, if I just visit a title which I have already rated in d past without changing or even touching the rating, the system takes it as if or assumes that, I've rated the title again. So, the title appears top on the list of my ratings when sorted by date of rating.
  • Many times it happens that I change my rating for a title. So, the date when I rated the title for the first time, will provide me with a very useful information and that is the date or approximate period/time when I watched the title for the very first time.
Hoping this will be changed for the good,
Thanks.

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Hi Abhay. Thanks for the feedback. I'll add this to our tracking list for future consideration.

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@Abhay Bhatt and  Karen, Official Rep

I don't find that the date of rating changes just because I visit the title page. You say you're not doing anything to make the voting stars come up, tapping on the former rating, and therefore registering a new date? Are you using Reference view, or an app on a phone/tablet? (I use Standard view on a laptop.)

I disagree that the rating date displayed should always be the first date. If I've changed my rating, I want to know the date of the current rating. I _would_ be interested in both dates: original and current. However, I doubt that IMDb keeps the original rating number, and without that, the original date is the less valuable of the two... for me.

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Hi everyone. Here is the progress update for the week ending Feb 2:
  • Bug fix: We fixed a problem with ratings refinement on the IMDb mobile web site.

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Hi everyone. Here is the update for the week ending Feb 9:
  • You can now filter by rating on the ratings page. For example, you can see all titles you rated 8 stars.
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On the Ratings page, filter by rating does NOT sort by date, despite the Sort choice saying Most Recent.

By looking through my recent ratings (without selecting a Filter value), I find 4 films that I rated 8 in the last month. But when I select Filter by rating 8, these do not appear at the top of the list, and the top 3 entries have rated dates in 2014, 2006, 2012.

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Hi @bderoes. Another item we will clean up soon. I will update the announcement to make the current limitation clear.

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Filtering by a single rating seems pointless, usually it makes sense to filter by a range of ratings (min: 6, max: 10, for example), like in the Advanced search. The inconsistency of filtering between the search, lists and ratings is very confusing.

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Also the current capitalization style (camelCase) of URL parameters clashes with the old IMDb style (snake_case): /ratings?sort=date_added,desc&ratingFilter=6

This is inconvenient because often the lack of a capable UI for filtering/sorting forces me to edit or add those parameters manually, and mixing two styles makes it much harder.

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I see more changes today: that an icon for Grid View is included and functional.

Also that when you select a rating value to filter, the box regarding "Most Recent" is eliminated, and the titles are displayed in random order. Hopefully this is not the permanent version of the page, because the random order is the primary problem, not that it was advertised as being in order.

New Bug: I tried to find a title in my Ratings today, to see when I rated it. To speed up the process, I switched to Grid View to find the title, thinking I'd be able to switch to Detail View when I got to the page. But tapping on that grayed-out icon does Nothing. This is too many flavors of ridiculous wrapped in one PITA: only 1 place to advance to Next page,  random order of titles, inability to switch view modes, only 2 ways to see the date reviewed (export and random ratings view; need it on custom lists and on Title page.) Fortunately, it dawned on me to delete the view mode from the url, and refresh, which worked.

The grayed-out Detail View was in Chrome on a Chromebook, with extensions/scripts OFF.

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Hi everyone. One small announcement for the week ending Feb 16. We updated the dual sort/filter drop downs that were causing some confusion last week. You can now filter by Show All and choose to sort by Most Recent or Top Rated OR you can filter by a specific star rating.

We are continuing to work on additional updates to Ratings and I will announce those once they are available.

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Hi everyone. No announcements for this week (the week ending Feb 23), but I'm posting to keep the weekly update cadence going. We will have news about Ratings updates soon and I'll post when those are available.

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Hi everyone. This week (ending Mar 2) there is one update for Ratings. We fixed a bug that was causing some users' ratings to be missing from their reviews.

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Hi everyone. No updates to Ratings this week (Mar 9); posting for completeness.

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Hi everyone. No updates to Ratings this week (week ending 16); posting for completeness.

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Hi everyone. Thanks for your patience and feedback as we've released Ratings features over the past 3 months. This will be the last of the weekly updates to this announcement thread, but please keep adding ideas for future Ratings ideas here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb?topic-list[settings][type]=idea I'll post new announcements on Get Satisfaction as we release new features and functionality in the future.

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This sounds like bad news. It seems you're not actively updating the Ratings page any more, is that right?
Also, you say that ideas can be added to the Idea section, does that mean the ideas and suggestions mentioned in this thread that haven't been acted upon yet won't get acted upon at all?

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Some of the Ratings enhancement requests were recorded here:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/ratings-functionality-enhancement-requests
Votes and/or comments are welcome there.

User Jeorj Euler has frequently expressed optimism in this thread that some former functionality was going to return, perhaps based on this post by  Karen, Official Rep on 19Jan:

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/updates-to-the-ratings-pages-and-functionality?topic-reply-l...

which said in part:

Ideas for the long term: 
But notice these are user Ideas that need votes.

Or perhaps this, posted 23Feb:
We will have news about Ratings updates soon and I'll post when those are available.
All posts to this thread by IMDb officials can be viewed here:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/updates-to-the-ratings-pages-and-functionality?topic-reply-l...


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Why did you do this?????
You mention six things, five of them start with "we removed". Why did you do this? This doesn't make any sense to me, not at all.

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It is part of the work to modernize and simplify various IMDb software systems and interfaces as announced at https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0

The interface becomes more simple for new customers; we no longer embed advanced title search features into a ratings page; and we can centralize the software on the advanced title search page, which in turns means 50% less software to maintain.  The result is that once all of this work is complete, we can more quickly enhance the advanced title search features instead of having to duplicate the software in several different places. It is short term pain for long term gain.  You should be able to do almost all the same sorting and filtering (and more) than you could do before via http://www.imdb.com/search/title

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Unfortunate fact is that advanced title search cannot replicate a compact view of one's Vote History sorted by vote date.  IOW, the page I had bookmarked at IMDb for well over 10 years as my main entry point to the site.  Were "date rated" a sort option on advanced search, there wouldn't be an issue.  It would be a welcome future enhancement, to say the least.  

I don't see any way to view the date one voted for a movie in any part of the new interface anymore.  I guess that info is only accessible by exporting the data, now.

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Col, thanks for responding.
Obviously, I know about the advanced search. But what I really liked about the features on my Vote History were that I could see within one mouse-click how much feature films, episodes, series etc. I had seen. The same goes for genres. I've tried, but I don't see how I can do this via the advanced search, expect for one by one. (first looking at how much films I've seen, then going back and seeing how much series I've seen and so on, and so on). Also, there doesn't seem to be any way via the advanced search to see when you've voted for a certain title, which WAS possible via the old way.

You said:
You should be able to do almost all the same sorting and filtering (and more) than you could do before via http://www.imdb.com/search/title
Maybe I just missed it, so can you (or somebody else who's more computer savvy than I apparently am) explain to me how to get the things I mentioned above?
Also, I really don't see how this is easier for newly or "old" users. I personally found the old way very intuitive and super-easy to use.

Another question: If this change "means 50% less software to maintain", why wasn't this said in the announcement post? That way, users might better understand the reasoning behind it. As I've said before, communication is key (especially now the message boards have gone and you can't easily reach most users anyway).

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...and we can centralize the software on the advanced title search page, which in turns means 50% less software to maintain.
Coming up with nonsense like this is unbelievably disrespectful to the people who are using and contributing to your service.

IMDb could be a great and fun tool for sharing and comparing ratings and watch lists with friends (considering that watching movies is most often a social experience), and then you actually make it harder to find, view and compare information. I'm simply amazed by the lack of ingenuity.

What other updates (ie. downgrades) are you planning to do in the future?

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I am a new user, joined a few months ago, and this is making using the site exponentially harder for me. I find the advanced search page difficult to understand and I don't know how to use it to get the same results as I got with one click on my Ratings page.

I just want to be able to see my ratings by release date ! That seems like a very, very basic function for a film and TV series database like IMDb !

I can't believe you have removed this function that I used regularly. This is going to make my life harder. I find it jarring to call such a downgrade an "update".

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Yeah, I'm a pretty old user at the site and I thought "your rating" sorting option was really useful which enabled me to see the movies I voted from 10 to 1 in order, that helped seeing the movies I could recommend to others in a compact organized way. Now I have to navigate through the complete list to find the ones I highly rated. Advanced search doesn't provide an option to sort the movies according to my vote either. Why remove such a basic function from such a huge movie database site? I really don't understand why sites that we love like IMDB make such unthoughtful decisions.

If I'm missing something here that will fix my problem, please help by the way.

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@Lasse: Your first mistake is thinking that modern IMDb is intended to be anything more than Amazon Video's upselling division. I find it hard to imagine that user experience enters into corporate strategy discussions unless it interferes with the users' ability to spend money.

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I really do not appreciate these changes. You have stripped back functions that i used all the time in the ratings section. Will they ever be changed back?

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I really do not appreciate these changes. You have stripped back functions that i used all the time in the ratings section. Will they ever be changed back?

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7 years ago

Why would you remove the refine ratings filter? That was literally the only reason I ever went to that page. Is IMDb aware that people want MORE functionality, not less? If you plan on bringing the filter back, then please tell us that!

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Please! Listen to this man!

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Are you keeping the "Advanced Tittle Search" page? That's basically the same thing as what you removed from the ratings page.

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Yes, this change enables us to improve advanced title search over the long term and provide even more search options for your ratings and other lists. 

For context please see https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0

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This is a truly bewildering decision. Removing these features is inconvenient and regressive and offers no advantage whatsoever; it just reduces the utility of the website. How can anyone think this is in any way helpful?

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Please see our other replies on this thread, also we have enhanced and standardized the "card" for each title in the detail view, now including availability information, as in (from my history):

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I don't need all this stuff in my ratings list. I already know what the show is about - I must've seen it or I couldn't rate it! And I'm not particularly likely to need to know when I can see it again. The compact view was all I ever used. However I do like to know when I rated it and I do require to be able to copy individual shows from the ratings list to my separate lists of different types of show. You refer to what you have done as "enhancing" but is precisely the opposite. Did you actually consult your customers before making these changes? From the comments in this thread it would seem not.

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remove remove remove

maybe you could add something great for once if you already get rid off all these useful features

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It's the compressed info we needed, not the enhanced. That easy to find in other ways.
I'm a user for 17 years, and this function I really loved with imdb.
I also use the advanced search, which is good, but to find my own rated films this was far the best way to get an overview e.g. for a film I don't remember the title for.
Hope you'll re-introduce it!
This new is only useful if you forgot the film you saw yesterday!

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I've been named a Top Contributor for the past 8 years, and many of these recent changes are causing me to consider quitting IMDb. Due to the recent changes of spreading information to multiple pages (TV series ratings), breaking up the credits for actors rather than a nice clean long list, and now having to work three times as hard to input soundtrack info, my efforts are no longer a hobby but are now actual hard work. I revisited site preferences, but it offered no solution.

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Dear Col!
How do find this list: All titles Feature and Tv-Movies I've rated with a 10/10 sorted by imdb-rating in compact view, and only the best caracter no 9/10. That will be about 170 films.
Can't make it with advanced search, or it's too advanced for me.
I can only get a complete list of all films I've rated and it's sorted be the film I last saw/rated, in stead of imdb-rating as I'd widh.
Please help! This sorting functioned in My Ratings.

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Hi Ole Jon Tveito,

This should accomplish what you requested for Feature Films.
Feature Films You Have Seen (Sort by Your Rating, desc)
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?title_type=feature&my_ratings=restrict&view=simple&coun...

Note to IMDb Staff: There is a problem with Advanced Search sorting by "Your rating".

Both of these produce the same results, sorting by Your rating (Low to High)
sorted by Your rating (High to Low)
sorted by Your rating (Low to High)

This can be corrected after the the search is done by clicking Your Rating to produce Your Rating.

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Thanks for quick answer!
But here it's sorted by the fuilms I've last seen. 
I don't like that. I would like it sorted by the imdb.rating, so e.g. Shawshank Redemption and The Godfather (which is on top of imdbtop250 would be on top on my list as well, if I rate them as 10/10.
It's unteresting for me to have this sorted by the last 10/10 I gave. That's what I remember best! I didn't search for this to find out what I saw last!!!
So if this search could be sorted after the contraint I wanted or chose, it would be good.
The former ratings page did that.

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Hi Ole Jon Tveito,

In Advanced Title Search under Your Ratings you can select:
  • Include All Titles
  • Exclude Titles I've Seen
  • Restrict to Titles I've Seen
"Seen" means titles that you have either rated or marked as seen.

In addition, you can also filter by:
  • Title Type
  • Release Date
  • User Rating (ratings by IMDb users)
  • Number of Votes
  • Genres
  • Title Groups (IMDb defined groups such as IMDb "Top 250")
  • Title Data
  • Companies
  • Instant Watch Options
  • US Certificates
  • Color Info
  • Countries
  • Keywords
  • Languages
  • Filming Locations
  • Popularity
  • Plot
  • Cast/Crew
  • Runtime
  • In Theaters
  • Adult Titles (Exclude or  Include)
  • Lists (whether or not the title is in one of your lists)
Finally you can control how the information is displayed.
  • Detailed or Compact
  • 50, 100 or 250 titles per page
You can also select how the titles are sorted:

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I do as you say, but there are two problems!

1) I get also films I've voted other than 10/10.
2) the list coming out still shows the last films I've seen and given 10/10 on top, and not by user rating descendig as I asked for.

Here my search:
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?my_ratings=restrict&view=simple&count=250&sort=your_rat...

I'd also like to exclude TV-series and episodes. How do I do that?

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I don't think it's currently possible to restrict the list to only the films you've rated 10/10, but it is at least possible to exclude TV-shows. You can do that from the Advanced Title Search, by selecting "Feature Film" (and/or any other title type you want to include) in the Title Type section near the top of the search page. You should get a search like this for only feature films: http://www.imdb.com/search/title?title_type=feature&my_ratings=restrict&view=simple&coun...

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@Ole Jon Tveito

When I use the link you provided:
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?my_ratings=restrict&view=simple&count=250&sort=your_rat...
I see my ratings in order by MY votes, which means you selected Your Rating (high to low). 
If by "user ratings" you mean wanted to sort by the IMDb average rating, then you should have selected User Rating Descending.

Previous replies guided you toward sorting by Your Rating because this is the only way to see your 10's together. And there is not feature to sort by Your Rating and then second criteria of User Rating. You may need to Export your ratings and use a spreadsheet to see exactly what you want.

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That is th trouble. The former User-rating site allowed my to sort that way. My 10/10 ranked by imdb-rating. Now I only get the last I've voted 10/10 on top,which isn'æt what I'm asking for. When I then try to sort again, it's also wrong.

I think advanced search is good, but it is very advanced, and there's still constraints which aren't possible!
I miss the way i saw my ratings descending and ascending from My Ratings-page, which did what I wanted.

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7 years ago

This is crazy. I used the copy facility to update my other lists from the ratings list. I can't do that anymore. The usefulness of the entire website for me has been greatly diminished and I will doubtless now use it less. Internet companies are constantly "updating" just for the sake of it, it seems. Remember, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"