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INTRODUCING: Updated IMDb.com Title page experience

INTRODUCING: Updated IMDb.com Title page experience

We are excited to announce the launch of IMDb’s newly refreshed movie and TV show pages! The renewed page is meant to make your IMDb experience easy and enjoyable, and its design represents the diverse interests of global entertainment fans. The refresh reflects IMDb customer feedback and research designed to enhance entertainment content discovery and navigation.

Please note, we are gradually launching the new design to a selection of IMDb customers. If you do not yet see the design, we expect to make it broadly available in the weeks ahead. Thank you for using IMDb!

For more information, check out this Help article.

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Hello.

As title says, nothing happens when I submit my rate for this movie (any other movie is fine), tried few different ratings, still not results.

Also found movie "My Bloody Valentine" has this issue. I guess it would be best to just go back to old layout, with old layout there were no issues.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Can't rate movie "Phenomena"

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@asdsds Thanks for the problem report.   We have not had any reports of similar problems so this is likely to be a local or timing issue.

Please could you try again in case there was a temporary glitch at the time you were voting?  If it stil does not work, we see that your screen-grab is not how the page should look (see below -- you are missing the trailer) so are you running an ad-blocker or any other plugin which modifies IMDb? If so, it could be that it is interfering with the voting process.  One way to test this is to open an incognito / private browing window, login there and try again. 

If it is still broken please provide details of which operating system and browser you are using.  

The following might be helpful: https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/why-is-imdb-displaying-differently-on-my-browser/GF2ZAR69V859XLHF 

Here is how the top of https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087909/ should look:

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I tried now and it started to work. I appreciate the suggestions though.

I guess "It works slowly and sometimes, but it works!" must be new motto of imdb.

Thanks anyway.

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@asdsds I wish I knew what ad-blocker you are using. I HATE those trailers. Defiantly NOT why I come to IMDb

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@Col_Needham Thank you for responding, Col. I think I'll just try to find another site. I don't think there are enough "work arounds" to make this site enjoyable again. The entire look and feel is just wrong. I did enjoy it for a long time, though. It was a great site.

Cheers!

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What has happened? When I try to log on all i get is a black screen with a bunch of trailers? Where has the database gone?

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@MovieBuff123 

If you have patience to wait 15 seconds after every click, this is a perfect 'database' for you. 😏

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LOL... it's not just the trailers... it's everything... disable trailers, enable reference view, being forced to wade through news and gossip, birthdays, "ironic" personalized picks, amazon ads... It's a cluster. After using the site almost daily for years, I couldn't hate it more.

momur

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@MovieBuff123 Join the club. We're working on the treehouse and thinking of making jackets 😉

Seriously though, the vast majority of people who have commented here do agree with you. It's just that...well, to put it bluntly, our opinions really don't matter in the slightest. We can point out all the ways in which the redesign is an abject failure in terms of aesthetics and functionality till the cows come home but the Powers That Be have made it plain that the new layout is a Huge Improvement and something users definitely asked for and we all better just get used to it, dammit!

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Jackets? Really?.... I'm a 42 reg.

I have read most of the comments... over 50 pages worth, and didn't see very many who like it.

I think TMDb may be a suitable replacement. It doesn't quite have the depth that I'm accustomed to, and it is not without problems, but maybe as more and more "info-centric" users migrate it will become as good a resource as this was. I just know this site no longer works for me.

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@ACT_1 

We have to be honest and say that five more people who are registered on Sprinklr are enjoying the new look of the site, these are they:

momur

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@plur62 You can effectively discount Col and JoeJoe from that list. Col since he's actually on the staff, and JoeJoe has gone through the thread trashing the redesign in multiple posts. No idea why they liked the post if they don't like the update but there we are.

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The are two or three more who have applauded the redesigned layout of title pages, but they've not given a thumbs up to the announcement thread.

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@jeorj_euler In the comments I saw several major contributors who said they would no longer be posting reviews, or the interesting credits I enjoy. Whether they really will stop posting or not is a question yet to be answered, as this type of activity is a labor of love. But clearly, It was the contributions of these dedicated volunteers that made this site what it was, and made it worth what Amazon paid for it. 

Most telling was to me was Col's response to the contributors who have complained about the new layout...  something to the (boiled down) effect of... "We hate to see you go, but we're moving ahead , so don't let the door hit ya".

That kind of response struck me as a bit cavalier, but what do I know? I only know I absolutely hate what this site has become.

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{added edit} Okay, upon reflection this was a bit harsh.. (Sorry Colin) but I do not believe in any way, that concerns raised by users or contributors will have any impact at all

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@MovieBuff123 Please can you provide a link to the post where this exchange took place as there was certainly no intention of saying anything remotely like what you suggest?  I would like to return to this/these post(s) and clarify the wording if my reply has been misinterpreted.  

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Tue Jul 13 2021
Now there are 134,560,000 Registered Users

https://www.imdb.com/user/ur134560000/

If 10,000,000 stopped visiting and adding contributions etc.
there would still be a lot looking at the new ____ Title pages
  
IF IMDb made it easier to find this thread
there could be 1,000,000 more negative comments

BUT that would not change anything

  

WE can never know how many IMDb people worked on this New View
or how much time and money was spent
Best guess??  A Large Quantity!!
 
IMDb is not going to throw that all away
just because a couple of dozen Users here do not like it

  

I have been using IMDb most everyday 
since I registered Sun Apr 30 2000.
looking up what ever I am watching on TV (all day long)
to see who was That guy??  What else has he done??
Read the interesting Trivia, Goofs, Reviews, etc.
all added by Users volunteering their time

- - -

      
Mon Jul 13 2020
120,980,000 Users
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur120980000

  

Sat Jul 13 2019
105.440.000
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur105440000

  

Fri Jul 13 2018
90,020,000
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur90020000

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@Col_Needham

I don't know how to do that, Col. Until a couple weeks ago, I never knew these boards existed, and certainly had no reason to use them. I only came for movie and TV information. Not trailers, birthdays or gossip/news.... but I will try to explain...

alex_warheit said this… The redesign is horrific. I have been an IMDB Top 100 contributor multiple years….. [and] After nearly 15 years of contributing I don't know if I should continue.

 

You replied… "We accept that change is hard to handle…. [but]we expect you too will start to appreciate many of the advantages as you become more familiar with it."

 

Jack576 said… Every title, every cast and crew addition, every description, every trivia, every quote and basically anything else you see has almost always been contributed by a USER for FREE….. Please stop telling us to essentially go f--- ourselves by ignoring our feedback and telling us our opinions doesn't matter.

 

To which you replied… “I have been using the new pages since it was first possible to test them (staff only access) last October and in my experience they are a significant upgrade to the previous version.” 

 

Cosimo72 had this to say… “I've rated over 7000 movies during the last 20 years …… I understand the new horrible design is here to stay for a long time and there's no chance anyone will listen to us, and I know I can't stay anymore.

 

To which you did not reply at all.

 

There are other examples, but I just don't have the time keep digging through all of the negative reactions.

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I personally see the new website as little more than a glorified phone app, functioning as a data mining operation for Amazon. I believe others will concur. You seem to saying that you know we hate it, you just are not going to do anything about it.... a.k.a. "like it or lump it"

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@MovieBuff123  Thanks for going back and editing your post. 

We are reading all of the posts here. We are replying if there is a specific bug being reported or if a customer is having a specific problem locating information.  We now have a small list of bugs -- much smaller than previous redesigns because of the more intensive and longer testing period for this one. We are also weighing all of the feedback for updates, for example, the exact release data being added to the upper right of the page for all future releases by location vs. only displaying it when the title has not released anywhere in the world (as in "Coming Soon" on Jungle Cruise). 

I have also answered some of the more general points to provide the wider context on what is happening and why, however, if someone has a general complaint and it has already been covered in a previous reply then I am unable to restate the same information as a personal reply in every case, sorry.

From my replies it should be clear that feedback on redesigns is expected to be negative because the people with the motivation to comment only do so because they have a complaint. It does not mean that the feedback is not valid for them, but equally they are not speaking for all 200+ million customers either (and not necessarily for future customers too). The initial reaction to the 2010 redesign (and all previous ones) was also negative (same on many other sites too, so this is not unique to IMDb).  The same 2010 design that people here are saying was perfect was also criticised in much the same way as the 2021 redesign at launch. We are asking people to give the design some time because our testing shows that it works well for both novices and experts alike, and also across all device sizes.  Yes, many things are not where they were before, but they are where they are now because of a more sensible grouping.  We have not removed any content from the page, and instead have only added to it, especially compared to the previous mobile site which only had a fraction of the page content.  My replies have covered why this is the right thing to do and I will include links below in case you have missed any of those posts. 

We are sorry if anyone chooses to stop using IMDb whether they are a contributor or not, however, IMDb needs to stay relevant and engaging to the widest audience possible. 

We already provide a data centric view of title pages so our advice is to switch to that if the new pages do not meet your needs. If you do not like the content on the home page either then https://www.imdb.com/search/ makes a really good place to bookmark instead.  It is just not practical to keep multiple generations of past versions of the site available, sorry. This is not "like it or lump it" but instead, "try it and hopefully like it, but if not, please use the other view and other pages"

We are not sure what you mean by "functioning as a data mining operation" as IMDb is not a social network.  You do not have to be registered to use IMDb and we only require an email address if you do register. Even then you can always get a free anonymous email account and register with that, so there's no data to mine (elsewhere on this post you will even find advice on how to use reference view without registering). If you have any concerns about anonymous tracking then please click the link "Interest-Based Ads" in the bottom right of the footer on every IMDb page where you can opt-out of customised advertising.  Advertising pays for the provision of IMDb's services and investment in our future growth, however, for those people who are opposed to adverting there's also the option to subscribe to IMDbPro for an ad-free experience. 

Hope this helps.

Relevant past posts for more context: 

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d?commentId=60e6c61f55bc2d278b52e221&replyId=60e71d026f53997374bc29c4 

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d?commentId=60abb5553258dd21c738c969

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d?commentId=60ae3aea1ab2ba106b0106c3&replyId=60b01b0d06d61711351c9b7c

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d?commentId=60af6b6f62e27a6596f9b1af&replyId=60b3d09306d61711351cf052

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d?commentId=60b8e0f8a4586b59556af969&replyId=60c4ec9500ea110e3983c69d

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@Col_Needham 

From my replies it should be clear that feedback on redesigns is expected to be negative because the people with the motivation to comment only do so because they have a complaint. It does not mean that the feedback is not valid for them, but equally they are not speaking for all 200+ million customers either (and not necessarily for future customers too).

So exactly what metric are you using to judge the percentage of users who like the new design as opposed to those who dislike it, but either don't know about this forum, or lack the motivation to complain? Have you also considered that many more people who might otherwise complain, see such complaints as useless based on your replies?

Why not put a poll at the top of each page allowing people to vote Like or Dislike on the new design? Are you afraid that the Dislike votes would win?

I mean, if you say you're doing this to improve things for the users, wouldn't it make sense to actually let the users vote on whether they like the changes?

So how about it, will you put up a poll so that users can vote on the new design?

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@Col_Needham Thanks for your response.

We will have agree to disagree about the new look being an improvement. As a user who is interested in only information, the busy new look is a distraction, it is not helpful, and I will take advantage of every opportunity to bypass it.

As for my data-mining comment, while I am certainly not an expert, I absolutely believe that every trailer watched, and every ad clicked is recorded, and that information is used to target future advertising, whether one is a member or not, but we are starting to split hairs at this point.

With all that said, I do salute you, Colin. You have taken more time than most chief executives would have taken to respond to comments, and I respect that. We may not like the result of the "upgrade", no one can say you didn't hear us out. I just hope the next "upgrade" won't take 10 years.

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@Col_Needham 😃

ACT_1 Registered: Sun Apr 30 2000.


Just a comment about 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining  (I can not read all this...)
for  all 200+ million customers 
134,580,000 of them are Users ??
https://www.imdb.com/user/ur134580000/

Many IMDb links have a "?ref__" so IMDb knows where the link was found ?
and counts these visits
Many sprinklr members post links here with that "?ref__"
Others may click on that and IMDb counts that as from the wrong source ? ?
The link was from Here - not the Ref page
I normally delete that "?ref__" when I post a link here
  
Also IMDb displays
   Recently Viewed | Clear your history
   [ Photos of Titles & Name and links listed here ]
so IMDb keeps a history of our page visits
that can be deleted by the User 
but IMDb still keeps that history in a User File ??
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Samples
  
Perry Mason (TV Series)
The Case of the Long-Legged Models (1958)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673319/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673319/reference

Next US TV Airings : Wed, Jul 14 9:00 AM
Raymond Burr
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000994/?ref_=tt_rv_t0

Barbara Hale
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0354853/?ref_=tt_rv_t1

- - -
  
https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/what-is-imdb/G836CY29Z4SGNMK5?ref_=helpsect_cons_1_1#

  
https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/site-preferences/GDL9NWJRKWRH5L6K?ref_=helpart_nav_3#

  
https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/how-can-i-access-or-delete-personal-information-imdb-stores-about-me/GDASD2LZMU8HNH4H?ref_=helpart_nav_7#

  
https://www.imdb.com/privacy?ref_=helpms_ih_gi_personal

What Personal Information About Users Does IMDb Collect?
We collect your personal information in order to provide
and continually improve our services and your experience at IMDb.
  
https://www.imdb.com/privacy?ref_=helpms_ih_gi_personal#infoyougiveus

Examples of Information Collected
Information You Give Us When You Use IMDb Services

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@Col_Needham 

From my replies it should be clear that feedback on redesigns is expected to be negative because the people with the motivation to comment only do so because they have a complaint. It does not mean that the feedback is not valid for them, but equally they are not speaking for all 200+ million customers either (and not necessarily for future customers too). The initial reaction to the 2010 redesign (and all previous ones) was also negative (same on many other sites too, so this is not unique to IMDb).


IMDB never provided their customers with any other choice, any alternatives, or take any polls to let them decide, so this entire statement is moot and irrelevant.

We are asking people to give the design some time because our testing shows that it works well for both novices and experts alike, and also across all device sizes.

That is the exact same attitude about all your previous designs as there was never any choice for the customers to decide, and since you are unable to provide the test results and evidence from “those novices and experts” to show how and where it works so well, than this statement is also moot and irrelevant.

On the contrary, you are not asking anyone to give it a chance since you have already made that choice for them whether they like it or disapprove based on all the previous designs where no options were ever provided.

From personal past experience, including colleagues, friends, associates, and family; they choose not to complain because they also know from experience that there is a 99 percent likelihood that it will be a waste of time and energy to complain when the decision has already been made for them. 99% of those 200+ million customers are simply indifferent about it.

It is just not practical to keep multiple generations of past versions of the site available, sorry.

And yet; Reddit was able to do it for all their customers.

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Some past upgrades did yield losses of functionality. In that context, this one is hardly severe, and more so reflects introduction of discomfort.

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Hi, I really, really don't like the new version of imdb.  Instead of the list format that maximized the information on my screen, now I have to scroll incessantly to see the same information, because of all the needless pictures.  I can't be the only one who doesn't like this, but I have no idea how to get things back to the way they were.

I'm trusting that imdb values ALL its users, and would create a way for people to enable their settings depending on whether they want to make the information easy to peruse (like me), or whether they want shiny things (what I'm looking at right now).

If anyone can help me with this, that would be excellent.  If not, I guess I'll have to skulk around the internet until I find a better source for info of this sort that doesn't require me to wear out my mouse wheel scrolling around!

Thanks in advance if anyone can help me out!

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled First time poster- question about format

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@ERT The best you can do is set-up a free account, and select "References View" in the account settings. I also now use "Contributor Zone" as my homepage, bypassing the visual assault on the main page. You might also look at TMDb as a possible alternative, but it is not a perfect replacement.

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@ERT

I can't be the only one who doesn't like this...

You're not alone in not liking the new and so-called "improved" version of the page. Even I, who is kinda used to it, don't like the version at all, even if I try to give it a chance. Nearly all of us in this forum topic have expressed our dislike of the version, much of it due to the following: Pictures being too large and stuff taking too much space, all basic information being scattered around, the Watchlist and Rate button taking too long time to load, and the jarring visuals. Some of the users have been having difficulties because of all those stuff, and some have even been tempted to use other movie sources such as the TMDb.

Instead of the list format that maximized the information on my screen, now I have to scroll incessantly to see the same information, because of all the needless pictures.  

I use the IMDb for rating anything I've watched, writing some Parental Guides whenever I feel for it, contributing by adding some additional information on already existing titles, as well as adding some new titles which I find interesting. But with the new version, I've been tempted to use the scroll bar instead of wasting my energy, time and my mouse wheel just to find the basic information I'm really after, all thanks to the giant pictures many of us IMDb users have been complaining against. Speaking about giant pictures, someone has even mentioned to me about the fact the huge pictures may also have been created for any illiterate people who only want to... simply look at pictures, while many of us here can read even the smallest texts.

The IMDb created the new version in order to make it mobile-friendly, but in reality the new version happened to be not so mobile-friendly according to some users on this forum. And the story didn't get better as the version has been forced upon us desktop users (like me and several others) who didn't ask for anything but a simple, clean and complex page, without all the "fancy" stuff that makes the IMDb look like a teenage entertainment fan-page instead of the informational database the site has been known for in decades since its beginning.

...but I have no idea how to get things back to the way they were.

According to what Col Needman has told us, the IMDb (sadly) doesn't have any intention of giving us the option to go back to the old version, despite many of us having asked for such an option. According to the IMDb, this is because the old version that has been in use for at least 10-11 years, is automatically outdated and worthless. So all of us users are stuck with the new version which the staff call "Huge Improvement", but none of us users asked for. But this forum topic has users who've been telling us how to use the new version without the "fancy" stuff, including selecting "References View" in the account settings to name one example.

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@MovieBuff123

Don't forget another backup option: https://www.metacritic.com/tv/killing-eve . Not even close to being as good as the old IMDB but 1000x better than the new one. 

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I know... no site has the depth of info that IMDb has, that why it is so disheartening to see it morph into its new form.

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Il y a 1 a

The imdb new layout is completely horrendous I'm actually deleting this app as soon as am done until everything is placed in the correct order...FIRE YOUR INEXPERIENCED DESIGNERS!!!!!!!

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled New pages/layout sucks

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Il y a 1 a

Why is 'Top credits' (the most inportant data for a movie) not open standard? (now one has to click to open).

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Top credits

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@kela1850 

Because IMDb’s new website is filled with Easter Yeggs! you have to find and open.

Bugs Bunny Easter Yeggs! https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039345

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Il y a 1 a

hi,

i'm a subsribed user since more than 15years i guess.

Since a couple of weeks, imdb released its new design of the main homepage. structure and text position are very good , but i have a problem with colors : it's is in dark mode (white text on dark background).

i can understand this is "fashion", but it should have a light mode, isn't it ?

Modern website have a option to auto display a lightning version during the day, and the dark version during the evening.

Moreover, Like other people, i have a eye/health problem to read properly than kind of inverted choices colors.

Reading white text on dark background produces many headaches and vision troubles.

I checked every options in my profil, i search in every preferences, and i did not find how to use the light mode.

So i guess there is not such choice, isn't it ?

i'd like to know if such option to have a white/light version is in progress to be coded, released or not ?

Best regards

 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled how can i turn the homepage to light mode instad of the dark mode ? (how to use black text on white background )

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Il y a 1 a

@Col_Needham After all these posts and comments, you still don't get it, or is it just all the rest of us?

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Then whats the point of all this?

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@tv_6ed65i969yx75 

i'm not agree with you.
the point having an external forum (so no on the IMDB domain) outside imdb, is a main point to protect imdb from bad responsabilities about "hard" words from visitor.
If someone made an threat here on movie or people, i guess imdb would not be responsable but Sprinklr will be.

(maybe i'm wrong), but it was the main reason why imdb forum from movie page had been closed years ago (i lost helf of my heart when this feature was closed, i never find another place to speak about movies, maybe Tweeter..) .
it took too many time to moderate the movie forum , so too many time be responsible.

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Wait. IMDb doesn't have the privilege of being protected by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act? Also, IMDb is not bereft of visitor-generated content. Random pseudonymous trolls can still include threatening remarks in their profile descriptions, list descriptions and list item descriptions, while doing whatever manner of tricks to get those pages to show up in search engine results.

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Il y a 1 a

hi,

i'm a web-developper, i looked at the source code of the new homepage.

they're is a template option, at least a CSS one. In my case of problem (light mode / dark mode), i can see you can easily switch users from dark css to light css  ....

why don't you add a new option in user profil to let the people choose their own template.

So new users or visitors  would have the new modern homepage , then experienced users can choose a template/color model/light mode in their profil, even better they would choose the version (www/previous/beta/customized..)  from a sub domain ?

Maybe you can activate a sub-domain to let other people use the old homepage.

Your administrator can easily redirect a profil who watch https://www.imdb.com/title/tt999/    to https://previous.imdb.com/title/tt999/

Best regards...

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@usamike 

See:

ACT_1
Tue May 18 2021
https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/introducing-updated-imdbcom-title-page-experience/60a40631c1307254c6cc1b0d

  
Hotel Transylvania: Transformania (2021)
Releases July 23, 2021
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/


Where is ...
Reference View| Change View  ? ?  (displayed here)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/reference

? ?

How would others find your
https://previous.imdb.com/title/tt999/

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@usamike 

i'm a web-developper, i looked at the source code of the new homepage.

they're is a template option, at least a CSS one. In my case of problem (light mode / dark mode), i can see you can easily switch users from dark css to light css  ....

why don't you add a new option in user profil to let the people choose their own template.

So new users or visitors  would have the new modern homepage , then experienced users can choose a template/color model/light mode in their profil, even better they would choose the version (www/previous/beta/customized..)  from a sub domain ?

Shh, we're all supposed to pretend that the new design is the only way that the data can be presented to the user (well, except for reference view).

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@usamike Thanks, yes, this is correct -- the design pattern supports both dark and light themes. We intend to offer an option for customers to choose at a later date once more of the pages are in the new design.

Given the new pages are dark by default and the old ones are only available in a light theme, we are temporarily caught between the two approaches.  This is why the new title pages are more of a mixed dark / light theme than we would prefer.  Again something to revisit when more of the site has been moved to the new platform. 

Hope this helps.  

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@Col_Needham 😃

OK...
How many Reports, Documents, Letters, Scripts, Articles, Contracts, Lists, etc
does IMDb print with White Ink on Black Paper ?


This is Easier to read ? ?

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@Col_Needham

thank U for the reply.

i have beginning to use the "no style" on imdb since the dark theme of the new page.

I hope this new option will be available soon to have the light theme/pattern.

I also test different firefox extensions which perform realtime- "code replacer" features (AKA code rewriting); sometimes it runs well on imdb, sometimes it fails. (because of synonymes....)
For whom want to test, just apply a rule to the source code :
replace -dark by -light and play with it ;-)

Of course you need to be web-developer to understand this tips and adjust it!


Best regards

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I hate this redesign so much! Seeing as we're stuck with this garbage layout, can you guys atleast make it so we can add movies/tv shows to our lists from their page in "Reference View"?

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@DogRiver 

Use the Title or Name Number
Your list ??
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls000000000/edit 

Bottom of page
Add a movie or TV show to this list:  [tt9848626]

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Hotel Transylvania: Transformania (2021)
Releases July 23, 2021
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/reference

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If you gather a group of Titles or Names in Notepad (?)
You can add them at the same time to your Titles and Names lists 

and change the LIST ORDER by number

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@ACT_1 I know how to add movies on the list page. I use that way as well when starting a list from scratch, but I have a list just for movies I've watched this year. So I'm updating that often and having the ability to add the movie to that list on the specific movie page saves me from having to go to the list every time. When I'm already on the movie page rating it, reading reviews, looking up cast etc. Thank you though for the reply.

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In title reference view, you can insert or remove the title to your Watchlist with one click. I'm not sure if it allows you to pick a specific list of yours to which to insert or remove the title, since I've never created an IMDb list myself.

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@jeorj_euler Yeah, as far as I can see there's only the option to add/remove to watchlist on title pages in reference view.

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@DogRiver 

  

I have several Lists that I add with Title and Name numbers
but do not have a Watch List

Any Help Here ??
You many know about this already too

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/adding-a-title-to-a-user-created-list/60da05a58b1b3f7a4bf4e42d?commentId=60db66858ce1226dd430af54

bderoes
While Editing your Watchlist, 
click on the box left of the title(s) you want to move.
Then an option will light up for Move To, 
and when you click that you can select the destination list.

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For those who may not know or remember, there was a time when there were four renditions of IMDb title pages: mobile view, desktop standard view, desktop reference view and desktop combined view. At some point, reference view adopted the properties of combined view, and the two became one and the same, known as reference view. So, now there are only really two renditions: standard view and reference view.

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Mobile view same as  desktop standard view ? ?
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/

desktop standard view
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/

reference view.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9848626/reference

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You know it, ACT_1.

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@jeorj_euler @ACT_1 Those were the days, my friend. we thought they'd never end....

for my money, the reference view is far superior. Maybe after the dust settles, we can impose on the staff to make some of the categories collapsible on reference view. That should not tax the capabilities of the software too much.....

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@jeorj_euler
there 're also another problem : i use mid-resolution and the space is not used, there are a lot of blank-empty space (purple in my example).

the website did not use all the space, so each page is long, long long, and we need to scroll, scroll, scroll,scroll, down,down,down...

in previous version, you can go to movie menu to go to "soundtrack" topic in 1clic. Now, i have to make a more than 8 mouse events to reach the "soundtrack" topic.


 

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@usamike  You do not have to scroll to reach the soundtracks or any of the subpages.  Please see the "All Topics" menu in the upper right of each page, for example from https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9620292/

(red highlighting added)

Hope this helps.

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thank U, it solved the problem.

i saw this icon before and i didn't click on it because it meant offer thing elsewhere . Moreover it didn't have any tooltips (neither other clickable item fro mthe new homepage : no tooltips anywhere at all...)

I would suggest to name it : "sub menus" instead of "all topics".

Problem solved.

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This new design is terrible. Very slow, information is hard to find and read. Lots of movies doesn't return English titles anymore, why people from the English speaking countries would want to see non English titles?

If it was done for my website I would sack a whole design team. Is it nowadays hard to find the good specialists, with money IMDB has?

Luckily I found userscript on Greasyfork "IMDb Scout Mod", it makes site usable again:

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All  English here ? ?

Citizen Kane (1941)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033467/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033467/reference   *
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Your Account Settings
https://www.imdb.com/registration/accountsettings

Content Settings
https://www.imdb.com/preferences/general

Title pages
  Title display country/region:
  [United States]
  Title display language
  [English]

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Contributors
 [x] Show reference view with full cast and crew (advanced view)

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Because it's English movie.

How English is this:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5595160

Those settings doesn't change this. Moreover, I was talking to the russian guy on forum, he said he doesn't see the original titles anymore and sees translated Russian titles as original titles. I couldn't believe it at first, till I connected through the Russia with VPN, and he is right, all English movies are shown as originally Russian.

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? ?

Redemption Road (2017)
Landgericht (original title)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5595160/reference

The life of a German-Jewish judge family 
is destroyed by the Nazi persecution in the 1930s.
The children are sent to England with a Kindertransport,
he goes into Cuban exile, she remains in war Germany.
In 1947 the broken family reunited.

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Get your glasses, then you'll see that it's not the link I posted nor it's a new design page.

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Hi, i’m a long user and subscribed member of imdb.
I guess more than 15years.

My personal profil is i am senior digital worker (web developer, android coder, Devops too) so my experience about the homepage might interest you i na good way.

i don’t question the presence of the advertissement, nor the size of the banner neither the position.


But now, since the new homepage there are any problems :


Firstly,

I noticed the new giant banner always take a time to let me use the mouse on the page. I have to wait 2-3s before i can scroll-down the page. It is a big problem, because i  go away to not wait here and comeback soon to pass this « blocked time » (or i forget to go back, so i visit less IMDB…)

Secondly,

Also, you can see on my screenshot the new banner is 50% the size of my screen, so i really need to scroll down. Why the height of the banner is not flexible with the height of visitor browser resolution ?





 

 

Look the Soundtrack section on my screenshot.



There is no advert on the right, but a blank space.
While i visit often this Soundtrack section in imdb, why don’t you display me advert about soundtracks, score CDs, concert tickets,  so something about ME+MUSIC  related products.
While i’m reading this section, it is me most accurte moment where i can click on an advert.
I’would love a link to Varese Sarabande shop or tunefind website or Deezer soundtrack section or other digital music marketplace.
But you decided to display nothing there, just a blank space.
i remember a time maybe (5 year ago), there was a link to amazon sound CD right linked to the right sound CD in the amazon shop. I don’t see it anymore ? where is it ? no spotify/deezer/itunes link to the official movie soundtrack at all ? So i have to go to other website to find and leave imdb….

 

Other example : in the same way, when, i visit the page about a movie with many digital things, i’d like ads about artbooks….

When i look the caracters section (see screenshot) , on the right side i have ads of things which have NO RELATION at all with the movie or with the actors. I don’t know where you digital seller display me that ! di dit mix my IP address with somebody else ? bad marketing data quality ?
Oh by the way, i already blocked on my firewall and routeur the criteo data, any criteo advertissement because criteo’s method based on ip tracking and interconnected cookies/data  between different partners is bad. I don’t user any adblocker software or extension, i just apply a rule on my firewall/router to block critero things.



I would love to have here ads about posters, books about the actor/actress. Here again ,the ads is not « relational » neither with the movie neither with me. And i will love that ! you haer me ? i’m a visitor who say he will love have ads but in relation with the movie !

When i go to see a movie, i would love have in the exit-road a shop or a stand to buy goodies, funko pop but they offer me different things.
When i visit an imdb page about marvel movie, i would love to have the page filled with super hero goodies, even cosplay clothes ! But imdb ads are not in relation with the movie neither with me.
So this is the big problem !
I tried to log out to check the ads, something there is no ads at all at the top (see the screenshot with big black blank space on top ! impressive empty space), and sometime the ads is not related at all.



Why my profile page cannot offer me to select a list of hobbies to select that i want adverts ? i would select a bunch of things i would click on the ads !


Why longtime users of imdb would not have the privilege to have no ads or less ads ? Since 15years, i think old visitors  can claim such feature…
i migh visit the website at least 2 times in a day, so i guess i offered you my personal data during 15 x 365 x 2 so almost 11k times of my hobbies in your data partners.

I said it again : i’m not against the advertisements, i just want they will be related to the movie or (movie+me).

Best regards and long life to imdb.

Ps : sorry for my english error or mistake in my language expression, i’m not a natural born english person. I’m latin.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled problem with advertisements on new homepage (no relational at all, or empty spaces)

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@usamike  Thanks for the details here. We have shared this with the appropriate teams.  A quick related question: in which country are you based?  Our advertising experience varies across the world depending upon various factors. 

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Will people please stop using the word experience with everything? Ads are not an "experience" - for you it's making money, for us it's necessary evil.

When I go to the gas station it's not a "gas-filling experience" I'm filling up my tank. Going to Taco Bell might be that kind of experience but not that kind.

It makes sense when you go to a store and t he retailer wants your stay to be enjoyable but in the majority of cases "experience is just a dumb marketing buzz-word. That's just a general world statement though, not just a Col one.

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@Col_Needham 
i'm in France but i use a browser configured as English as primary language (needed for work).
i saw on the right panel some of your "partner" who provide the advs : Taboola and eToro are really realy realy some bad ones..

i would suggest to have the amazons or googles ads partnership, they're more accurated with "multi-language/country" visitors  than Taboola & etoro . But i noticed in this section of the webpage, you want to display "story article", not the "product to buy" ads...

Best regards

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@cougs

if you own a VOLVOoO car , i guess you would be please at the gas station to have ads about volvooo cars, aren't you ?

it is basicely what i expect from a website. having ads in relation with the webpage first.

In my first example, i speak about the cat advert, i don't have cat. why imdb do not display a bluray device adv instead a food cat ads.... it is the problem (for me).

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Huh? I'm just commenting on how everyone in marketing, commercials, management, etc. from most companies all want the buzzword "experience" in everything. From personalized ads to shopping in a store, fantasy baseball web sites, tree-planting, car driving (on a race track it would be an experience, on a trip to the grocery store it's a trip to the grocery store) and everything else in life.

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@usamike

under the big ad banner, there is a "sponsored" text link.

i clicked on it (hope to setting the ads...) but nothing on the click !

i check the source code : nothing.

the ads was long to be displayed, so i wanted to know why...

it is funny because the text "sponsored" is displayed a while before the ad itselft !

why user don't have the name/brand/company of the top banner provider ?
on the right side, i can read "Powered by Taboola" so i know the ads provider,  but the top banner remains a mysterious one...
i will check the source code on the outside frame when i will have more time...

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What about the "college experience"? Haha.

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@usamike The issue with the empty ad placements in some countries (including France, sorry) should be fixed now.  Please can you let us know if not. 

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I used to be able to put in a movie title and got full cast and crew and other pertinent info, But now that site has vanished.  What happened?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled What happened to old web format

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Site is still really slow! Its a pain to use now. I just want to quickly be able to add things to my watchlist. This is so unbearable. 

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@VoidZero Very true. With the old site, we could immediately see the rating star and the watchlist button coming, but now we have to wait a long time to see them coming, before we can click on any of them. And the staff calls this new version a "huge improvement"? Having to watch the circles endlessly just for the buttons to come is just unbearable. I hope anyone in the staff does something with it, this can't just go on.

Additionally, the star rating button doesn't appear for a while after a new title has been approved after submission, at least with the ones I've submitted myself, so I have to wait for a while before I can rate on that title. Unlike before when I could rate the new title immediately after its approval. Seriously, what's up with that?

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but now we have to wait a long time to see them coming, before we can click on any of them.  (...) Having to watch the circles endlessly just for the buttons to come is just unbearable.

i agree. it looks like a major bug in javascript , the one which produce the ads/banners or ajax somewhere. Sorry for the "technical terms".
do you have to wait to scrolldown too (like me) ?
when i'm not log in (so in sign out), it looks quicker.

I will be there is a whole in the js code or a bad loop somewhere depending of js event/handling.. When i will have time, i will track the delay with debugger network/tram analyser (f12 key...) Sorry again for the technical reply...
i will do that only by curiosity, i'm not part of the staff at all.

Maybe the long time waiting, came from a list (with huge items inside). i hope the developer didn't code a thing like "foreach movie in list, check the star by ajax query..." because for a list of 5000 items, the memory/cpu used   will be exponential...

Try with another browser or with a blank cookie (other session/user from your computer)

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@usamike 

do you have to wait to scrolldown too (like me) ?

Not always necessary. According to my experience, I don't actually have to wait to scroll down too. If so, it might be due to the Internet connection.

when i'm not log in (so in sign out), it looks quicker.

If I'm not logged in, it appears the buttons I've mentioned come somewhat quicker than when I'm logged in.

By the way, part of staff or not, you did your best to explain as much as you could, so thank you very much.

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The first big blunder of imdb.com was to get rid of the comment section showing how political correct they are. Now, they have a ridiculous desktop version without any possibility of going back to the classic version. Soon, as competitors arise, people will be jumping off Internet movie database.com like rats off of the sinking ship.... Whoever is calling the shots over at Internet movie database.com has a lot to learn....