IMDb Web Title Subpages Redesign

@cinemacriterion​ -- good question. The current redesign is for mobile Web and Desktop. Thanks.

Hi, @bderoes​:

Items with the same release date are sorted by country code.

Cheers!

@ljdoncel​ 

Aha. Always dislike sorts that use un-displayed information for ordering.

@bderoes​ Also, that's only when there's a tie for the same release date.  The primary sort order is chronological, for example, see https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7405458/releaseinfo

BTW these are exactly the same primary and secondary sort orders as the previous version of the /title/releaseinfo page. 

Hope this helps. 

@Col_Needham​ 

I wish you had replied to this instead:

But specific to the Release info itself: I'm disappointed that an Expand All link is not near the top of each category (Release Date, AKA), as we have on the primary Name pages for Credits. Instead we have to scroll down and click the "nn more" link. I know my country will be alphabetized low on the list, so I'd like the ability to expand the list up top.

@bderoes​ The product and design teams will largely be handling this thread directly and they will see your comment, thanks. I was just clarifying the point on the sort order.  

@bderoes - thank you for your feedback about the Expand All design. The Web team considered various options, including your suggestion. In addition to incorporating customer feedback, the team went with the new Expand All design to make it simple to review different subpage sections at a glance, with an abbreviated list for each, and expand while browsing (vs. returning to the section title).

I shared your recommendation with the team. We will review it and other valuable feedback as we continue to redesign the site and experiment with new features and more. Please feel free to reach out again at any time - thanks. 

As I often select the title and search google with it, so it is very unconvenient.

Are there any way to capture the title of the song and store to clipboard?  (It is possible to use Edit and select correct/delete, however it takes much time than ever.)

I hope this design will be changed to be better one in near future.

@tozaki​ 

To select the text of the title of the song, start your cursor on the beginning of the line under the title.

Actually, on this page, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045152/soundtrack

the year appears right under, and selecting that too helps with the google search. 

Once selected, I'm able to right-click and choose the Search Google option.

@bderoes​ Thank you for your reply. It dose not work for me as I use Firefox.
Now I found it works on Google Chrome and Safari on Mac.

If someone who are respoisible for the design read this message, please confirm it.
And do not use <button> tag for important data, because the text cannot be selectable with Firefox.

@tozaki - I write to confirm whether you were able to mirror the soundtrack copy (title/year) on Firefox that you were doing on Chrome.

The feature works as @bderoes explained for me on Firefox like it does on Chrome (for you). If you are experiencing issues, please feel free to share an screenshots, specific steps, etc. to help resolve any problem you are facing (or identify an unknown bug). Thanks again for your feedback and using IMDb.

@Kevin_Powell  To make it clear, I repeat.

I cannot select the title of soundtrack in Firefox, whereas it is selectable in Chrome and Safari.

With Firefox, even I type Command+A (on Mac) to select all, the title part is not included to the text on the clipboard.

Here is a screenshot when I typed Command+A

You see the song title ("Fit as a Fiddle" and "Temptation") is not selected.

That's because the title is surrounded between <button> and </button> in html.  Firefox won't  select the text at button.

@tozaki​ - Thank you for reaching out about the inconsistent experience! I informed the team this morning about your issue, and we moved up work to prioritize a fix. I appreciate your willingness to share this error - please reach out again with any other issues or feedback. Thanks for using IMDb.

This may not related the design change of this time, I know there is other places title is not shown in original.

In reference view, if these is a movie connections, it shows the first 1 title of the related movie. That title is shown in English.  (In connections view, it is shown in original.)

For example, in https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047243/reference/ , I see the following:

When I click the title or show more link, the title is shown in original "La fils de Gascogne".

@tozaki - thanks for the feedback about your experience on the "/reference/" experience vs redesigned subpages. On our end, the redesigned title page (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047243/) does provide a consistent experience for Connections (e.g., Le fils de Gascogne (1995) is displayed, and a click surfaces a title page with the same name)).

If you do see inconsistencies like you mentioned above on the "/reference/" page, please reach out with information. Thanks for providing clear feedback and using IMDb.

@Kevin_Powell  I think you understand what I meant.
If the reference in the connection at the new redesigned page is as expected, the behavior in /reference is a bug.

The same bug is also at /mediaviewer.
Despite of the setting, you see the English title at the are shown at lower position. 

See https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047243/mediaviewer/rm1792544768/

It shows:

with English title instead of original French.

@tozaki​ - I write to confirm that the team released a fix earlier this week that addressed the localization bug that you spotted. The bug recently surfaced, and I want to thank you again for raising it here. We are happy it was caught and resolved so fast.

Please reach out at any time about any issue. And thank you for using IMDb!

@Kevin_Powell   Do you mean this fix has been released to public or just internal release?  I asked you because nothing changed either in the title in /reference view and /mediainfo view.

Exactly! Except for the part about just accepting this. They allowed us to keep classic view when this crap layout was rolled out about a decade ago, so I had no problem because we had the choice. But this isn't acceptable because now they've removed my choice in the matter. And people shouldn't just roll over and deal with something inferior when what we had before was perfectly fine.

@czender​ You're spot on. 👍 When I first discovered the same thing with any celeb I clicked on, I felt not very happy. Clicking for additional information takes unnecessarily more time and energy than we could for many times back.

And what happened to the other subpages made me more like a sorehead. So yes, I do agree that we should have the option to choose between designs as you mentioned.

There is a fulllcredits page, for example,

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0518178/fullcredits

Currently it needs extra 2 clicks to get this view.  I hope there should be at least a user preference to set this view is default in the Content Setting.

However, there is no such view for releaseinfo to see many AKAs etc. So their should be different view like older ones for those pages.

@tozaki​ I know there is, but it`s way too lenghty to get there

@czender​ Amen to that.

@czender​ - thank you for sharing your recommendations. I have shared your feedback with the team about, during a page load, about options to experiment with content detail display and preserve our intent to simply section title and category name browse. 

Appreciate your direct message. Please feel free to reach out again at any time. Thanks for using IMDb.

@bderoes​ - Thank you for your feedback about episode pages (and subpages) directing to the series page. I have shared your message with the team to review. We intend to follow up with a feature update that touches on your aforementioned recommendation to conveniently navigate to a series page from an episode subpage.

Thanks again for your feedback on the redesigned page. Please reach out again with any other comments or issues.

@bderoes - I write to follow up about the issue you raised about episode pages (and subpages) directing to the series page.

We applied a link on episode subpages to the series page -- e.g., https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0609119/technical. Please let us know if you continue to see the issue or identify others.

We appreciate your willingness to provide detailed redesigned page feedback to preserve a first-rate customer experience. Please continue to provide us feedback on any issue at any time, and thank you for using and contributing to IMDb!

@Kevin_Powell​ 

I'm getting the old version of subpages when using Chrome (recently updated to 109), so I can't see the change there.

But using MS Edge, I see the new design, and the update is welcome. 

However, I now find it strange that the episode title is not linked to the episode. I see that there's a "Back" link in the upper left corner, but "back" is unclear. It would be more obvious if the title itself was linked.

@bderoes - thanks for confirming the update, and you should see it going forward on all browsers.

I have shared your additional feedback with the team for consideration. You're correct - the "Back" button and poster do return you to the series page, but the series name itself does not. This was done by design, but your feedback is neither unsubstantiated nor isolated. It will be revisited by our product, UX, and tech teams. 

Thank you again for all your feedback - please reach out about any issue at any time. 

@Kevin_Powell​ Please stop forcing UI changes we never asked for. These are inferior changes to boot, my episode listings are bugged on some pages, and the design is just plain terrible.  

@robertdimucci661​ -- Thank you for raising the bug on your end and your contributions to IMDb! The runtime issue that you surfaced should be resolved ("The Young Rebel" technical specifications page).

Please let us know whether you continue to see the issue or discover others. We appreciate your willingness to raise bugs and make feature suggestions, and thank you for all your IMDb contributions that help it be the most popular and authoritative entertainment source. Please reach out at any time about any issue.

Wanted to add the link to the Elvis (2022) page:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3704428/soundtrack

I'm seeing the old version of the page right now (I've seen the new version before), so maybe they rolled back because they're fixing something.

@serguei_7368274​  Thanks for the bug report.  We have notified the appropriate team and this should be an easy fix. 

@serguei_7368274 -- thank you for raising this important issue. Like @Col_Needham mentioned, the appropriate team was notified this morning and applied a quick fix.

We appreciate your direct feedback to ensure IMDb holds a high bar for customers. Please continue to reach out to us about any issue at any time. And thanks for using IMDb! 

Thanks everybody for the quick fix! 

I agree with @cartman_1337​, especially questioning the value of restricting to the first 5 in a category - on ANY page. Perhaps we need a user parameter that states we want all data displayed on every page during the initial load. Or give us a link for that on each page, and make our choice sticky, so long as "sticky" doesn't depend on cookies/cache that will eventually get cleared to troubleshoot something somewhere (not necessarily on IMDb.)

Related suggestion: also have a parameter that condenses the vertical space on pages to a mode like "text only" on the special Name page for credits - essentially single-spaced.

Some titles have thousands of connections. That's a lot of scrolling. 

@Peter_pbn​ So? You have the "Jump to" button at the top, so getting to any section of connection types you want is quick in any case. And when you do get to that section, you generally want to see all the connections of that type that there are, right?

I forgot to report in my previous post that if you do expand a section and visit a link, the page does not remember that the section was expanded when you return to the page through browser history, but it tries to go to the same scrolling position it was, which usually gives you the bottom of the page upon return, which is also very annoying.

@cartman_1337 - Thank you for your detailed feedback and all your contributions to IMDb.

Regarding the Connections subpage and "expand all" option, I have shared your feedback with our team to review. Your recommendation is not isolated - it has been raised both on Sprinklr and within our team, and we will revisit it.

Specific to returning to the Connections subpage -- after selecting a listed title -- and the sections not respecting previously-selected views (e.g., "[#] more" or "All"), I have forward your details to our team. We agree there is an improvement opportunity.

Thank you again for taking time to share your feedback. We appreciate customers who help us improve IMDb. Please reach out at any time about any issue.

@bderoes - Thank you for your feedback regarding pagination (as a follow to @cartman_1337's post). I shared your suggestions with our team.

Please reach out again about any issue at any time - we value your continued input and contributions to help IMDb be the most popular and authoritative entertainment source. 

THIS!!

Exactly, as well as wasting their own staff's time making bad UI changes no one even needs or asked for in the first place. It's a win win to stop this nonsense. If they want a new UI that's fine, as long as they allow users to choose between the new and old versions. But it seems like they are trying to phase that choice out and this is just the beginning steps to do it. In my opinion. 

Hi @YNOTatTheMovies -

We appreciate the feedback. I have turned this post into an idea so other users can vote on it.

Cheers!

@Bethanny​ Thanks! Yeah, a website's name should not become an advantage/disadvantage for a review to be shown at users' first click due to IMDB's design on how that page is displayed.

@mbmb​ Thanks -- this is a good point which we will pass along to the team. 

The quotes, trivia and crazy credit pages all look like YouTube comment pages. Part of the problem there is that when the like/dislike option was introduced it ended up turning the data presented into a pointless popularity contest, with lots of data being voted up/down for biased reasons. Data can be marked as popular, but not to showing how many people liked/disliked it; I really feel that function has been abused and should be removed.

The trivia page has especially suffered the most from this new redesign.

- the cameo/trademark indentation is removed so it looks stupid.

- the spoiler tab can only pulled down, and not back up.

- the indentation on the trivia/crazycredits section has been messed with thanks to the new redesign. 

These pages give an sample of the issues I described above:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4566758/trivia

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079833/trivia

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1133985/crazycredits 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4958580/trivia 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/trivia 

@sai_arun_muthusamy​ This, true. I totally second this. I've been having the feeling many times that the site had become more and more like YouTube, Facebook and so-called "popularity contest" with all the like/dislike buttons and other stuff which some of them are just unnecessary, instead of being the simple movie database it was originally supposed to be.

I'm better used to the site's newest look, but to be honest, I still don't like it. The newest redesign makes things more messy-looking than before, and requires more unnecessary clicks in sections like "movie connections" and "release dates". The older looks were easier, more useful and user-friendly as lots of IMDb-users have already pointed out many times.