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Wednesday, April 8th, 2020 5:47 AM

Suggestion: Movies of Redemption (for Easter)

Today Christian religions celebrate Easter. One of Easter's themes is one that most of the world's major religions share: redemption. Redemption does not have to be religious, though: anytime someone makes up for past wrongs, is saved from one's failings, and finds peace through change and growth, there is redemption. As Joaquin Phoenix said when he won the Oscar for Best Lead Actor this year, in his riveting acceptance speech, "I think that’s when we’re at our best... when we guide each other to redemption." The films below all share, in some way, the theme of redemption: which do you think best captures the spirit of redemption?

Suggestions welcome and appreciated. 

Listhttps://www.imdb.com/list/ls092346030/
Poll: TBD

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4 years ago

So many good ones!  However, one of my absolute favorites is The Mission

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Same here. I loooove that film. Everything about it: the music, the themes, the choreography, the acting - it's just so well done and so beautiful.

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“Ben Hur” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052618/...

This immediately came into my mind because the twin in which it is set is called Redemption, “The Quick And The Dead” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114214/...

Redemption (and revenge) is a favorite theme of movie westerns:

- High Plans Drifter https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068699/...

- Shane https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046303/...

- Once Upon a Time in the West ( C'era una volta il West) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064116/... for the Jill McBain portion of the story.

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That was supposed to say “Town” not “Twin”.

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Lol, yeah, my autocorrect totally thinks it's smarter than I am and does the same thing. 

Oh, these are great suggestions! And I was bothered that I couldn't think of older classics so thank you for that, too. I'll add these as soon as I put food in my stomach, lol. 

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4 years ago

I've never seen any of these movies, lol!  :D

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Ha!  You're wrong!  :D
I LOATHE Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter!  
#HogwartsisDumb
#FrodoisDumb

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Wow that was harsh.

I will, however, suggest The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe - strong themes of redemption.

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The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe?????

There is no redemption in that movie.

The movie is about naive adolescents and a lion trying to defeat a usual Tilda Swinton character who can freeze people.

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I request that you apologize for :

You take yourself too seriously; you are a strong candidate for elevated blood pressure and an early death by heart attack or stroke.

I don't know if it was supposed to be humorous but attacking me personally like this is unacceptable. You don't know me in real life. You think that you know me, but that is not the case.

I was arguing with Narnia that The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe is not containing a redemption arc, you can argue if you want, but I won't accept that in this debate you attack me personally.

Furthermore, I won't take the article that you send me as proof as he is making as I think he is overinterpreting the story, this is a child book, not a metaphor for the Bible as he seems to suggest.

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Then, you have a good opportunity for redemption.

If you apologize about what you have said :

You take yourself too seriously; you are a strong candidate for elevated blood pressure and an early death by heart attack or stroke.
You would make up for past wrongs and find peace through change and growth then you will have redemption.

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cinephile:
Spoilers!
Edmund betrays everyone by striking a deal with the White Witch, to which Aslan responds by sacrificing himself, thus freeing Edmund from the Witch's punishment and giving him a second chance, which he uses by becoming a better person and ultimately destroying the Witch's wand.

Ivy: 
I hear you.  Peer pressure caused me to see Aquaman, an experience I only wish could be erased from my mind.  :D

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cinephile:
BTW, the story actually is meant to illustrate the Bible; that's why C.S. Lewis wrote them.  Aslan's sacrifice and return mirrors Christ's sacrifice and resurrection.

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And (one last thing) it doesn't even matter what cinephile thinks; this is rubyfruit76's poll idea and the buck stops with her.

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I'm happy that I didn't notice earlier that Narnia was a metaphor for the Bible. Otherwise, I would have watched it with even more rage.

I hate the fact that the author used made an adaption of the Bible in a child book, I think that it is outrageous. For me, it is on the edge of what I call propaganda.

I'm gonna stick with movies and story that doesn't hide their true goal.

 Consequently, of the new info, I have decided to create the whole Narnia trilogy because to take profit from children's innocence is strongly against my value and my own life experience.

I don't oppose anymore to the inclusion of Narnia in the list, in fact, I think that it is rather a good idea. 

However, I oppose to Narnia itself.

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I'm happy that I didn't notice earlier that Narnia was a metaphor for the Bible. Otherwise, I would have watched it with even more rage.

I hate the fact that the author used made an adaption of the Bible in a child book, I think that it is outrageous. For me, it is on the edge of what I call propaganda.

I'm gonna stick with movies and story that doesn't hide their true goal.

 Consequently, of the new info, I have decided to create the whole Narnia trilogy because to take profit from children's innocence is strongly against my value and my own life experience.

I don't oppose anymore to the inclusion of Narnia in the list, in fact, I think that it is rather a good idea. 

However, I oppose to Narnia itself.

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cinephile,
I do not want to have bad words, but I will have an intellectual disagreement.
In a sense, everything is propaganda.  Every book, movie, and show has a message, whether it is basic, religious, political, or social.
My point is, someone will always be offended by a "message" at some point.  I'm not trying to force you to change your opinion on Narnia (lol), I'm just stumped as to why the Christian aspect bothers you so much.
And Narnia is not "hiding its true goal."  It is widely known as religious material, as Christianity was very important to C.S. Lewis.  It's just the same as if an adopted person wrote about how much they love their foster family.
It's a clean theme (no evil messages).  Nothing to hate.  Disagree, but not hate.

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Maybe it is well-known for you and other Narnia's fans, but I want to know how many children know that the book is about Christianity.

My point is that if a child between 9-12 goes to the library and saw this book on the shelf, he isn't gonna know that the whole book is about Christianity, he will pick it up because he is interested in fantasy stories not because he is interested in the metaphors.

First, the title of the integral book is The Chronicles of Narnia not C. S. Lewis' Adaptation of the Bible


Second, the description of the book/movie is:

Four kids travel through a wardrobe to the land of Narnia and learn of their destiny to free it with the guidance of a mystical lion.

not 


Jesus takes the form of a lion in this story about redemption.

Third, The book is often categorized in "fantasy" not in "religious".

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I don't know what you are trying to say here, but read this article and you might understand my point: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2005/dec/05/cslewis.booksforchildrenandteenagers

You said yourself at the very beginning that you haven't read the book or watch the movies so I don't know on what you are arguing.

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The illusion to Christ is not "in your face."  They never speak of Jesus or relgion; it is fairly subtle but still there for the readers who appreciate it.  The whole book is not about Christianity; there is lots of magic, action, and basic messages about love and forgiveness.  It is not adapted from the Bible.
The book Life of Pi promotes three different religions, and is recommended for the same young age range.  Also propaganda, and much less subtle. 
You're saying that nobody, ever, should have an opinion or something they hold dear that they want to share.  All the great people of history have become great by sharing their views with others.
To be clear, I am not for promoting things all the time; I am religious but do not want my action movie crammed with church scenes.  I do not like kid's films stuffed with political messages, as they are too young to understand.  But a mild religious thing, where it is mild enough to be enjoyed by even non-Christians, is harmless.  But you still didn't answer my question: what do you dislike so much about the Christian message?  I don't see you hating on Life of Pi.

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I hate the message because the message is a lie. 

Don't try to argue with me that, I'm 100% that God/divinity doesn't exist,  the absence of proof is the proof

I 100% certain that if you were to prove on a trial the existence of God you will lose.

Atheism is one of the subjects in which I'm never making any concession.

End of Story.

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Cinephile, there is a redemption story in TCoN:TLTWaTW. It is edward’s story where he betrays his sisters and brothers and generally the whole of Narnia to Jadis, (and he lies), and he gains redemption by breaking Jadis’ staff/wand. Remember Aslan sacrifices himself to save Edward.

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I respect everyone's opinions, but... this is one I must challenge.  I do not want to clutter up ruby's thread anymore than we already have, (lol) but I would love to take this challenge to one of my own useless threads.  https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/poll-suggestion-face-off-scary-scary-february-2020
I'm not saying you have to concede, but I would like to put this 'proving God' theory to the test.

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dgranger:
cinephile is not arguing that anymore; it has become about religion.  :)

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I agree with you that it might be a better option to debate on another post because we have deviated from Ruby's poll idea.

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Thank you, all, for the suggestions in the thread. : )

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ruby,
I apologize for cluttering up your suggestion; things got a bit out of hand.  :)
cinephile:
If you would like to take things to my thread, I would be more than happy to give my reasons why I believe in Christ, or at least a higher power.  If not, I understand and respect that.

In conclusion, I can say that whatever our religions, political parties, or races, the whole world can agree on one common thing: The Star Wars Holiday Special Sucks.  :D
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4 years ago

Doesn’t the orginnal “Rocky” have a redemption story in it? If I remember correctly he was working for a loan shark and took falls in fights.

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4 years ago


Les Misérables in any version you like is a story about redemption.

Also:
Unforgiven (1992)
The Verdict (1982)
Children of Men (2006)
Groundhog Day (1993)
Das leben der anderen (2006)
The Lost Weekend (1945)
The Judge (2014)
Megamind (2010)

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I second les Miserables.

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Thirded

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Fifthed... this is exactly how new Star Wars movies are greenlit.  ;)

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Oh, my gosh, The Verdict is such a great film and such a good one for this poll. Thank you, so much, Pencho, for all your thoughtful suggestions. I added all except the last three - I might end op adding one or more but my head feels pretty fuzzy right now and I only have five free spots. I might put off any decision-making, lol. 

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4 years ago

Many good choices!
FYC:
It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
The Green Mile (1999)
V for Vendetta (2005)

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Thank you for your suggestions! I added The Green Mile and It's a Wonderful Life. I feel the same way about V for Vendetta but I'm not exactly sure why so, since I have only five free spaces, I didn't add it.

Thanks, again, and it's good to see you around. : )

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Haha yeah
Been busy with life and work... Now that Covid-19 happens I have more time t dig some old habits. But I hope, even after this virus over, will stay here like I used to.

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4 years ago

Recommended: Long Night's Journey Into Day
                          The Redemption of General Butt Naked

(Documentaries for Doc version)

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4 years ago


Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/yE-0LpmDA-I/

Congratulations Sara.

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4 years ago

Happy Easter!
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The same to you and everyone here.

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