Live Poll: Men's Names — But Women's Work (complete)

I had heard of Franklin, and that she was a relatively unknown collaborator, although I don't know much about her so I will certainly read up. I knew of Maric as Einstein's first wife but did not know that she may have contributed to some of his early work. That's interesting (as is the overreaching that can happen in situations like that: the pendulum can sometimes swing too far) and definitely something I'll look up. Thanks for posting both!

I haven't seen either Lego Movie but that is quite interesting. I'm curious to see both movies, especially because I think it's a rather rare, but wonderful, quality to be able to admit one's mistakes or address something that others find problematic. I'm interested to see how the filmmakers dealt with the criticism. I'm also interested to see if I agree with the criticism and to what extent. Thanks for sharing this. : )

Indeed.

Thanks for doing the research; I am way too lazy 😂

Hahahaha, NYVKE.

Dan, I emailed you back and thanked you there but in a thread about people being given credit: This poll is largely yours. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Isn't Agatha (1979) the film that suggests she fakes fugue amnesia in order to attempt to kill her husband's mistress? Not quite appropriate for the poll

Dan, may I cite you as the author of the above blurbs? I don't want to plagiarize but I'd love to use them: they're very well written and in my very sleepy state, I'd never do them justice. And what do you think about 'Agatha,' if it's the same movie that NYVKE mentions?

rubyfruit, I've not seen 'Agatha'. NYVKE assessment is probably right; 'Agatha' probably shouldn't be included in the poll. I will leave it up to you whether it would be appropriate to add an attribution. The author is Google Gemini based on this prompt: History, both ancient and recent, is littered with women who have seen their accomplishments either claimed by or attributed to the men around them. The occurrence has been so common in the world of science, for example, that the term “Matilda effect” was coined to describe it, named after suffragist and abolitionist Matilda Joslyn Gage, who first described the phenomenon in her 1870 essay “Woman as Inventor”. Please list films or television series that demonstrate or illustrate the “Matilda effect”. This is the link to the full response from Google Gemini: https://g.co/gemini/share/d686fc57626e

Thanks, Dan!

Dan, I added all but 'Agatha.' However, I then deleted 'The Imitation Game,' which I've seen, because the poll poses the question, "Which [film or series] do you think best depicts this injustice?" I can't remember Clarke facing any significant snubs or difficulties and Google Gemini suggests the same.If you've seen and remember something I've forgotten, though, please just let me know. Thanks!

rubyfruit76, After reflection, I agree that 'The Imitation Game' should not be included. In the film Clarke did not face any significant snubs of difficulties. However, in real life Clarke did not get the recognition that she deserved until much later. For that matter, I'm still outraged that Alan Turing was persecuted despite being a national hero. His work along with that of others is the foundation of computer science and artificial intelligence.

Hi Pencho, thank you, so much, for the suggestions. I added The Beanie Bubble and Stealing Paradise. I didn't see Funny Farm and couldn't find a description of it that gave me enough of a sense of it to write an accurate summary so I didn't include it. Btw, I never knew the story about Beanie Babies. Thanks again.

@rubyfruit76 I saw The Imitation Game recently , and I agree. You should rather save that film for Gay month TBH. Turing was treated horribly towards the end of his life, leading to his suicide.

Thank you, Peter. I added it: do you think the blurb I wrote accurately depicts the story?

Sure. But regarding another entry: While Horizon is generally a documentary series, the special called "Life Story" or "Race for the Double Helix" was a drama.

Yikes, I'll change that right away. Thank you, Peter, so much.

Likely either the accented c or the length of some of the blurbs????

The first three quotation marks here are different than the last one: “Matilda effect” “Woman as Inventor."

Jess, I'm impressed. I lost that eye for detail a long time ago 😂

Thank you, so much, Jess: what a great catch -- possibly your best ever, wow. I changed the quotation marks. Should I also change the "Marić" to "Maric" now or should I wait if you want to be able to identify what precisely is causing the problem? If you want me to wait and know when you'll try to repush it, I can ask Dan to text me at that time so I can make the change immediately if there's still an error. Thank you, again.

It's up to you, we can try tonight as it is, and if it fails we can publish tomorrow, just be attentive for our message in case it fails so you can update it in time. Otherwise, you can play it safe and do both changes now.

NYVKE, I couldn't agree more about Jess's extraordinary eye. I've told her that she's the best proofreader I've ever known and since I'm a writer, I've known many, including myself. She and I worked together as poll admins for five or six years and I continually marveled over the catches she made. She still routinely saves my polls, thank goodness.

Hi Pencho and thanks for the reply. I'll make the other change now, as well. : )

Sara, you are too kind. I wish there was an option to "love" a comment. And to be fair, Peter also spotted the quotation marks. :)

Sara, please remember to move this thread to Praise.

If you ever repush: Cecilia Payne - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27003741/?ref_=tt_mlt_i_1