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PS: IMDb Poll Board Users Top 10 Heist Movies

Intro:

Heist movies have long tradition in film making. It's about to make the right coup, steel really worthy things like a few million Dollars, highly acclaimed pieces of art or simply gold. Over the decades there have been made hundrets of heist movies. The IMDb poll board users present their top 10 heist lists.

Which users list do you like most?

Fence your thoughts here.

Suggestions:

It's about movies, that completely centre on one or several heist(s). Movies with just a small part of heist are not wanted, like e.g. The Dark Knight.  Heists are about worthy things like money, art, gold, artefacts, expensive cars, jewels. I know that's very materialistic, but that's the way it goes. No tv-series or documentations. Please give a conclusion about your selection at the end of your suggestion. :D

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls082379461/

Poll: TBD

Responses

RaviNathan

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Not really my preferred subgenre - here's the best I can come up with:

1. 12 Rounds (2009)

2. The Usual Suspects (1995)

3. Ocean's Twelve (2004)

4. Swordfish (2001)

5. Inside Man (2006)

6. Now You See Me (2013)

7. Panic Room (2002)

8. Man on a Ledge (2012)

9. Entrapment (1999)

10. Reindeer Games (2000)

RaviNathan

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You and your "conclusions"!

Write something along the lines of my usual schtick - fast paced narratives and plot twists, etc.

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@RaviNathan 

Thank you for contributing, Nathan. I've put your suggestion on the list.

RaviNathan

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@Breumaster 

Any list with "The Usual Suspects" at the top is going to get more votes, so please switch my #1 and #2.

@Hoekkie noted correctly that most voters will just look at the first film or the first few films on the list.

Also, as stated below, if you choose to accept "Inception", please make it my #1 and toss "Reindeer Games" (my #10).

RaviNathan

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My "conclusion" was a post directed at you, not intended to be pasted verbatim.

Please change it to:

As with most genres & sub-genres, I enjoy films with suspense, fast-paced plot development, and one or more twists.

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Thank you, Nathan.

I didn't want to get you angry. It's just my kind of humor, which some people can't stand. Sorry for that.

RaviNathan

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Naah, touché in fact.

It was a good counter to my "You are your conclusions!" comment

cinephile

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7 m ago

That is a very precise sub-genre. I did my best to come up with that top:

1-The Usual Suspects 9/10

2-The Sting 8/10

3-Heat 8/10

4-Snatch

5-How to Steal a Million 7/10

6-Ocean's Eleven 7/10

7-Baby Driver 7/10

8-Reservoir Dogs 6/10

9-The Day They Robbed the Bank of England 6/10

10-The Town 6/10

cinephile

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Conclusion: In a good heist movie, the plan is sick but not overexplained, the mastermind is relatively charismatic, and the secondary characters are well developed.

PS: You can rewrite my conclusion if you wish.

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@cinephile 

Thank you for contributing! :D

I've put your suggestion on the list. Your conclusion is very good, no need to change. Thank you. :D

Gotta watch #09 of your list. I don't know that movie, yet.

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@cinephile 

Hallo, cinephile.

I know you are a big fan of Nolan. Based of a consideration with Brijesh and RaviNathan, I changed my mind and would put Inception on the list if you want.

cinephile

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Update:

1-Inception 9/10

2-Rififi 9/10

2-The Usual Suspect 9/10

4-The Sting 8/10

5-Heat 8/10

6-Snatch

7-How to Steal a Million 7/10

8-Ocean's Eleven 7/10

9-Baby Driver 7/10

10-The Day They Robbed the Bank of England 6/10

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@cinephile 

Done.

cinephile

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@Breumaster 

If you wish you can use Rififi to represent my top as I see that there are already 4 other tops represented by Inception.

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My Picks:

  1. Heat (1995)
  2. Special 26 (2013)
  3. Hell or High Water (2016)
  4. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
  5. Dog Day Afternoon (1975)
  6. Now You See Me (I) (2013)
  7. Snatch (2000)
  8. Focus (2015)

  9. Baby Driver (2017)

  10. The Town (2010)


Heat Special 26 Hell or High Water Reservoir Dogs Dog Day Afternoon

Now You See Me Snatch Focus Baby Driver The Town

Conclusion:

"You know it's a good heist movie when you root for the thief to escape. And it's the best when they can't."

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@BonaFideBOSS 

Thank you for contributing, Bo. I disagree on one movie being a heist. But I'm tolerant on it, because it's your list, you feel it as a heist and it's not too far from the subject. So your list is ok for me. Thank you all in all, and specially for the fine conclusion.

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Hi @Breumaster,

Please let me know which movie is that.

I've added a couple of heist movies to my watchlist after seeing your poll suggestion.

If I like any of them, I could do a replacement.

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Also thank you for the interest. I read the synopsis of all movies I didn't know to somehow check, if they fit the criteria. So your list is real nice. There is just one movie that doesn't fit so really. A heist - as I would understand it in general public - is a movie with several people who work together to work out a plan to steal something really awesome worthy. Just the movie 'Hell or High Water' seems to be a little poor facing the other candidates. I just read the German text again.

They rob a bank, but it isn't enough so they rob another bank. Seems to be more like a bunch of losers, which can't really plan things accurate. I won't put it off the list, if you got no better candidate.

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@BonaFideBOSS 

I changed my mind about Inception. If you want to put it on your list, please let me know.

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  1. Inception (2010)
  2. Heat (1995)
  3. Now You See Me (2013)
  4. The Sting (1973)
  5. White Heat (1949)
  6. Rififi (1955)
  7. Fast Five (2011)
  8. Ocean's Eleven (2001)
  9. The Killing (1956)
  10. Reservoir Dogs (1992)

Honorable Mention: A Fish Calles Wanda (1988)

The heist movies are best when the scenes are chaotic, but you can see the whole picture. It's an added bonus when it showcases what happens after the heist. Heist could be easy with proper planning, but getting away with stolen stuff is quite a different platter.

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@Brijesh 

Thank you for contributing, Brijesh. :D

I just have one thing, I even mentioned in the intro: Inception is more like a economy thriller than a heist movie. It's not the typical subject of stealing something worthy, it's about planting a thought into a bereaved man's head to prevent his company from exploiting the people in the area his father aimed for. Saito wanted to take it in his hands. So I reject Inception, I hae to admit that it even was wrong in my first poll about the heist subject. Please give me another one, would you? :D Editing the order is no problem. ;)

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I missed the intro, sorry about that. But, I protest.

Inception is a heist movie.

  • You are looking at it from one perspective only as a job given by Saito. But, what is on stake here, by using Inception, he will get a lot of money and power.
  • There is a safe which they need to open to do something that will help in accomplishing the heist. 
  • Initially they try to extract information which could be worth a lot.
  • Inception is like a cover of the actual heist. Like, in Now You See Me, they perform for audiences as a cover up.

If you are adamant on its exclusion. It would be this (with tongue in a cheek):

  1. The Sting (1973)
  2. Heat (1995)
  3. Now You See Me (2013)
  4. White Heat (1949)
  5. Rififi (1955)
  6. Fast Five (2011)
  7. Ocean's Eleven (2001)
  8. The Killing (1956)
  9. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
  10. A Fish Calles Wanda (1988)
RaviNathan

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Excellent point Brij.

Inception is a cover-up for an actual [emphasis mine] heist, in the real world.

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I still don't think so. Saito does it for granting that the people in the area won't get exploited. That makes it political. But maybe other users see it the same way.

You know what? I considered it and there is one thing that angered me in the last poll. The heist movie, which had the least character like a classical heist movie had one long bar and the other movies stood miles away after. But my top 10 polls usually have three issues:

1. The users may choose widely what they want in rough rules and the

2. ...conclusion is something very personal picky, which should be stated free to back the list.

3. I'm a little more open minded for user's interpretation.

I see that there might be more users who want to take Inception, so it won't be only one big bar and a few little others. But what I stated about 'The Dark Knight' stays. The heist there really is just a little one. The rest of the movie has nothing to do with it.

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@Brijesh 

I changed your list. Ok now? ;) ... or should I put 'The Sting' on second place?

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Thanks Breumaster.

The list is good as it is. I put 'The Sting' first as I rank first 3 movies the same and 'Heat' was already picked.

About the lists and conclusions: I always pick those, which I feel matches the subject and my interpretation of it only affect the order in the list. The conclusion always back up my list, as I pointed out

Heist could be easy with proper planning, but getting away with stolen stuff is quite a different platter.

For most of the movies on my list, the story represents what is happens after the heist very well. :)

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7 m ago

I think the poll will be better and more interesting with 1 or 3 picks by the members. 

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@Hoekkie 

Thank you for your thoughts. Now I already wrote the lists. 1 pick is to near to my first idea I had: idea

Why 3 picks? I think that number is unusual and it could be that too many users pick exact the same three.

Don't underestimate the "Conclusion:"-line. That little issue brings the idea more personal to the people. It's not just a steril list, but someone thought about this list. The conclusion can be decisive for people.

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As a voter I don't take time to study all the lists. In my opinion most people want to make a quick vote. Comparing the lists is easier with only 3 picks. But it's your decission of course...

RaviNathan

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Your position is legitimate @Hoekkie 

This is a small subgenre, and not one of my favourites.

Having said that, since the poll creator did not specify any significant requirements (rating, vote count, release period), I was able to come up with a decent enough list.

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1. Killing Zoe

2. The Killing
3. Rififi

4. The Score

5. The Sting

6. Dog Day Afternoon

7. The War Wagon

8. Ocean’s Eleven

9. Snatch

10. Sexy Beast

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@Hoekkie 

Hi, Hoekkie. :D

Thank you for contributing. I have put your list into an option.

If you got any conclusion, I'll take it. :D

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1. The Usual Suspects (1995)

2. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)

3. Heat (1995)

4. Snatch (2000)

5. Baby Driver (2017)

6. Hell or High Water (2016)

7. Fast Five (2011)

8. Inside Man (2006)

9. Ocean's Eleven (2001)

10. The Town (2010)

Conclusion - A good heist movie is when you feel like you are a useless member of the team. As in as the audience getting to know how it's supposed to go down & leaving enough for surprises.

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@CyrilMartin 

Thank you Cyril for contributing. I want you to know, that 'Inception' also became an option after discussion. If you want to change something, let me know. I will put your list in the next option.

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You're welcome, okay if "Inception" is on then my picks are,

1. Inception (2010)

2. The Usual Suspects (1995)

3. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels (1998)

4. Heat (1995)

5. Snatch (2000)

6. Baby Driver (2017)

7. Hell or High Water (2016)

8. Fast Five (2011)

9. Inside Man (2006)

10. Ocean's Eleven (2001) 

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@CyrilMartin 

Hi, CyrilMartin. :D

I've changed your list as you wished. Sorry for waiting so long, but I had less time and was so concentrated on the Beethoven polls. Thank you for waiting.

RaviNathan

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@Breumaster 

If, after consideration of my and Brijesh's comments, you choose to include Inception as a legitimate title, please put it in at my #1, and toss Reindeer Games off the list.

Thank you.

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@RaviNathan 

Nathan, I changed the list like you wanted. Please check and tell me, if it is ok now. ;)

RaviNathan

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Perfect

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No problem, I will consider that all. But at the moment I got rarely time. I'll do at the weekend. Thank you for your thoughts and input. :D

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spam!

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*Bump*

That would be a nice 100th poll. But I would like some more options.

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Heists are a gang thing, so at least a gang of three or four people are needed to do a heist.

Of course, that's not the definition of the word, heist. I think you're confusing conspiracy with the word. heist. Wait. That's not even right. You only need two people for a conspiracy. I can't find any resource that indicates heists have to have at least 3 or 4 persons.

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@Tsarstepan 

Can you imagine a heist movie with two people? How boring would that be? It becomes more depth and complexity with more and especially different characters. I don't remember one heist movie with only two gangsters. The best heist movies have 5, 8, 10 and more gang members. Why do I always have to backup all I mention here with sources? Do you have sources for all you tell, or do you also believe in a certain common assumption?

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And heists are also conspiratorial.

RaviNathan

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Breu, you would do well to take the advice of those who know English better.

Having said that, Atwood, you would do well to speak to people in a less snarky and condescending way,

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Hi Breu, according to the Oxford Dictionary, which is the gold standard, a heist is, verbatim, "a robbery." There's nothing more to the definition than that.

Also, I think by saying that a heist with only two people would be boring is substituting your judgement for the person who is providing the list and the voter's. 'A Dog Day Afternoon,' for example, only has two people involved in the heist and that film is a classic that has stood the test of time. I'm sure there's someone out there who may think it's boring, and perhaps they even think it's boring because there are only two people, but that person wouldn't have to nominate it or vote for it. Off the top of my head, 'Hell or High Water' also only has two people involved in the robbery.

Of course, it's your poll so, if you want to, you can make it a requirement that movies have more than two people involved in the  heist(s) but just make sure that you keep that separate from the definition. (Also, keep in mind, that several people would have to change their lists and it reduces the number of available films.)

 : )

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@rubyfruit76 

Thanks for clarifying that for Breu.

@Breumaster 

Here's a suggestion... change the title to "team heist movies". That way, you get a poll that is more in line with your vision.

You might want to consider reducing the number of required titles to 5 since this is a relatively small sub-genre.

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Thank you for pointing that out, Ruby.

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A fish called Wanda

Kelly's Heroes

Doberman - french movie

the Italian job

Goldfinger - and his minions try to steal fort knox as far as i can remember

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Hi, Mario.

It's a top-ten-list per user. Means each user's top-ten-list.

Best with conclusion.

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in this case you can add

usual 8- suspects, 9-sting, 10-snatch, 7- Buster (1988), 6 -Robbery (1967 film)

charismatic villains, team work with a pinch of deceit, a startling plot twist is welcome

1-doberman

2- kellys

3- wanda

4 goldfinger 007

5 italian job

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@mariojacobs:

Thank you for your list. I've put it on the list. It was fun to write your option. It's a pretty good list.

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please remove snatch add hudson hawk

idea: you could also link the name to the user's profile imdb page...

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I formerly did. Maybe I'll do it. Got less time last times.

I'll wipe off Snatch and put Hudson Hawk on the list.