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PS: Cool Blokes in Favored Roles: Part 2 (Let’s Include the Ladies too)

List page: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls573803743/

poll page: 

This is inspired by BreuMaster’s Cool Blokes in Favored Roles poll. The same rules apply. They were “ These guys below are actors who have proven their entertainment value several times. Most of them have a large fanbase. So we've chosen a cool role of everyone of them. (No superheroes) Which is your favorite pick of 'bloke & role' from them below?” I’ll add the actresses, extremely talented dancers who lead roles, and you can’t use anybody or roles from Breumaster’s list. It is just I’m a little older and remember some of the older stars who had huge followings. The same question: [b]Which is your favorite pick of 'bloke & role' from them below?[/b]
The casting auditions are over here if you got anybody you want to audition OR IMPORTANTLY better roles than the ones I, (not the suggestions from other people), than the ones I had picked for these actors. (The repetition was done deliberately for emphasis.)

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I appreciate the enhancement of the list. It's a good project.

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@Breumaster 

What about Josephine Baker? She was greatly honored by Emmanuel Macron in Paris these days! an Icon! She even was in resistance in WWII.

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She is so going on because of just that.

and to make it easier to add your suggestions from your discussion page.

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@dgranger 

Please avoid the words "American negro"! I don't want to have a rasistic term connoted to my username! Better would be "a black female". Please do so.

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I had already changed it. The reason why I had put it there because it was the legal term back in WW2 — which made it more amazing she was able to survive in France under Nazi control.

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@dgranger 

I'm strict about racism, because when we want to change the world to a better place, then there is not the slightest chance to find anything good in racism. Could you imagine Spock or Checkov for being racists? Sounds absurd, doesn't it? The world's unity can never base in being racistic. So I tend to see that matter in today's view for coping with it and carying on in a better way. I know how racism lasts in the brain, when someone was raised with racistic songs or things like that.

When we were children, in our kindergarten we sang a song which is called "10 kleine Negerlein" (best translated to "10 little negros") It's a song which counts down the lifes of black children that make "fails". That's how racism seeped away in children's heads. It lasts there and makes it easy to force prejudices when the children are grown-ups later. It works automatically and subconsciously. So it's a difficult problem to get rid of it later. Some people even can't stop that and some even don't want to stop it. Most people don't even see the problem.

I see you used it in a connotation to the "general adjustment" of that times. But please be careful with that and me. You can get me wild, when you do that in a mistakeable connotation to me. Racism is hanging on like a bubble gum on the sole of a shoe. It's work to get it rid of the brain. Even though one never wanted to be a racist. It's a matter of working on one's self. I'm carying on to do that, for being a better person.

Thank you for changing it and showing your intentions about it. I think she's great! :D

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Then you better strap yourself down because you are about nuclear. It is not a German nursery rhyme song. It is an American minstrel song. I had thought the title sounded familiar to a children’s counting nursery rhyme called “Ten Little Injuns”. I was right. The original version by an unknown composer with a very non-violent lyrics and a very different verse was “Ten Little Indians”. In 1868 a minstrel writer Septimus Winner changed the title to “Ten Little Injuns” and changed the verse into the violent countdown version you know. In 1869, Frank J. Green, changed the title from Indians to the “n” word for Blackfaced Minstrel shows, Christy’s Minstrels. From there, it went international and was translated into several languages and not just German. A. Christie used the prom in her book @@And Then There Were None” but changed it back to “Indians”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Little_Indians

In 1885, F. H. Bernary and  C. W. Allers translated it into German. https://blackcentraleurope.com/sources/1850-1914/ten-little-negroes-1885/

The sad part is, and what gets me is, other than Native Americans, very few get upset at the word “Indians” being used in the violent racist countdown version. But get super upset when the “N” word is used. If it is racist for one, it is racist for the other. I got very close relatives who got Native American blood in them.

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@dgranger 

I'm always in control. ;D To become wild doesn't necessarily mean to explode. :D 

I'm also very sad about how the things went in the last Centuries. We can do better.