PS: Are You Prepared for the Next Zombie Apocalypse? (May Zombie Month)

@Breumaster​

Anything that you think would make the poll stronger, from which movies should or should not make the final 35 list, to details in the introduction that should be excluded or included in the text, to something like a better word choice or phrasing, etc.

@Breumaster​

For instance, I limited these zombified franchises to two installments each: Zombieland, 28 Days, Resident Evil (7 films), Train to Busan and allowed the Night of the Living Dead (7 films) three installments in the answer pool. I thought that was the right call to not have fourteen answer choices from just two film series, but that's my take.

Plus, I consolidated any remakes / originals together and used the most popular version as the standard bearer. I was able to conserve five answer spots by only listing them as three answer choices.

There are so many worthy film choices available, so with slots at a premium, I was able to create a better represented zombie apocolypse answer pool, IMHO. In the end, I was probably was able to list 7+ more zombie apocalypse film that might not have made the cut. These ten lower voted and lower scoring films were the most likely to be cut and go unlisted as answer options, IMHO.

Do you agree or disagree or have an alternative?

If you want to know which of them milestones imho, I'd say these are:

Dead Alive

Night of the Living Dead (1960s)

Resident Evil

Zombieland

Day of the Dead

The Dead Don't Die

Scouts' Guide to the Zombie Apokalypse

28 Days Later

28 Weeks Later

Shaun of the Dead

Dawn of the Dead

World War Z

Train to Busan

Cockneys vs. Zombies

One Cut of the Dead

I am Legend

and the animated Resident Evil Movies, which were pretty good as a series.

Best in chronological order, which this list isn't made. ... - when it should be milestones.

Oh yeah - Warm Bodies, as a Betty White option, because Zombies just may be misunderstood.

@Breumaster​ I agree, that part was a bit hard to swallow.

I could buy into the concept that there are degrees of zombies between being fully human and being fully zombifed (Boneys – skeletal zombies who have fully lost their humanity). I thought the film was creative in displaying human characteristics in zombie characters, for being told from a zombie's perspective and pretty effective in addressing all these type of issues in how it was written. I thought it was a bold new take on the genre, even it had a few flaws and in the end I liked and enjoyed the movie.

@Breumaster​ I have seen 34 of the top 36 movies listed and agree the genre has many notable or milestone films. Thanks, your comment highlights the need to look at Cockneys vs. Zombies (2012) more closely. I was really conflicted about leaving it off already.

I haven't seen Wrymwood: Road of the Dead (2014) or Cockneys vs. Zombies (2012) yet. Initially, I had Cockneys vs. Zombies (2012) on the list, but swapped it out for Wrymwood: Road of the Dead (2014), since it was slightly better rated (6.2 vs. 5.9) and Australia needed better representation in the pool, whereas the U.K. has some of the best films in the zombie genre. Nonetheless, I really want to get Cockneys vs. Zombies (2012) into the answer pool, but I should probably watch both films first or find another film to cut to make room.

@Breumaster​ I have provisionally changed the answer pool, adding Cockneys vs. Zombies (2012) and removing Day of the Dead (1985). Even though it is less seen, it has a unique appeal I think. Whereas, I doubt Day of the Dead (1985) would even be missed with several other Living Dead franchise films available to vote for.

@urbanemovies​ 

I also think it isn't only necessary how high the rating is. At the beginning Transformers two had a rating of higher than 8/10, but now it's 6.0. So for me the rating of (just e.g.) 7.0 from 500.000 users is more reliable than a rating of 8.5 of 500 users. (I didn't consider the exact movies you mentioned)

@jeorj_euler​ I wondered the same. Are you asking, can something be the first one and the next one at the same time? As I read the definition, it can be the next one and be the first time.

Plus, there have been real medical cases of zombies, but maybe not the type that you see depicted on the big screen.

@jeorj_euler

It is addressed to everyone, as focusing on zombie apocalypse preparedness or general emergency preparedness are no different for the most part. You should have the same stash of supplies to get by on your own for a while without stores being open and your planned escape route should be the same whether a horde or zombies or hurricane are headed toward your location. The poll suggestion with its dual question and three paragraphs speaks to both those that live in the real-world, as well as, the fictional world, by mentioning zombie apocalypse preparedness and general emergency preparedness equally. Bottom line, the organizations cited and myself think zombie apocalypse movies can teach important skills that would be useful in both the real world and the fictional world. 

Which of these selected zombie apocalypse movies did the best job of educating you on how to survive a zombie apocalypse or alternatively made you the most prepared to survive any other type of disaster?

@urbanemovies​ 

I also do like Zombie movies, but I don't take them such seriously. For me it's a thrill to see the people fighting for their lives and I alsways hope they win, especially when I like them. If it was possible, I would have big fear about, but biology tells that bodies which have no brain controll and rot aroud for month, can not be able to fetch a person. In that condition they would be completely helpless and weak. If they don't drink water because of their devastating condition, they would die very fast without comming back, Just my two pence.

If it was possible, I guess that mostly military self defense forces and ugly cruel mobsters would survive. Also all the people who are able to be unscrupulous, them who are sleek, them who are  fast and healthy and especially those without regret. Maybe higher polititians could survive - them who are perspicatious and have the guts and the material resources and connections.

@Breumaster​

I would agree with both points 100%.

• Although, I think that if human zombies existed for real, they would not be dead or brain-dead, but rather would be in some altered state where they would act like pop culture zombies do.
• They would be afflicted with some type of parasite or virus that uses them as a host, like seen in Zombie ants,  Zombie spiders and Zombie plants that already exist in the real-world.
• We can both agree that the ones depicted on screen are amplified for effect and would not likely occur or act that way for real. 

Subjects related to Zombies.

Chronic Wasting Desease (wikipedia)

Zombie (wikipedia)

(Zombies are persons, which are in a hypnotic trance by an initial Voodoo-rite from the Haitian Creoles. Later other  people made their own cult of it, in the movies.)

@urbanemovies​ 

Did you ever see a Zombie drink water in any of these movies? I can't remember. That's like vampires who only drink blood constantly, never pure water. But the body poisons over time when you never drink water, they both would rot within months or years. Especially Zobies with such a bad virus that their eyes turn red and limbs beginn to foul, would be poisoned by their own body juices within several days, especially when drinking no water, just blood. What we see in that movies are massive immune reactions. Such things always weaken bodies, never strenghten them. But when you see them runnig against unbreakable windows ten times in the movies, they look more like insane, than infected and weak.

@urbanemovies​ 

Subjects related to Zombies.

CWD (wikipedia)

Zombie (wikipedia)

(I don't know why our bot runs wild again and marked my posting as private)

@Breumaster​ Thanks, I will look at both.

I have the same problem, as a general rule I have stopped posting hyperlinks in a post. If I want to refer someone to a website, I screenshot the page and post the address on the image for them to manually look up, if there is an interest or they can Google the article title and locate it that way.

@Breumaster​,

I agree the portrayal is flawed and likely would not be as depicted. However, humans throughout history have sought to explain things and simply gotten it wrong, seeing a certain type of phenomenon and thinking it was one thing, when in reality it was something else. For instance, "...there is also a specific psychiatric disorder called Cotard’s syndrome that can cause people to act like zombies. This is because they are under the delusion that they are dead or decomposing."

In the scientific paper cited below, "Dr. Douyon and Prof. Littlewood examined the three Haitian “zombies,” and found that they had not been the victims of an evil spell. Instead, medical reasons could explain their zombification."

• Zombie#1: The first “zombie” had catatonic schizophrenia, a rare condition that makes the person act as though they are walking in a stupor. 
• Zombie#2: The second person had experienced brain damage, and also had epilepsy.
• Zombie#3: The third appeared merely to have a learning disability.

@Breumaster​ In regards to your comment, I think it is very relevant that there is a root to the fictional "Zombie" version we see portrayed in film. It shows they originated from real-world stories, has some basis in fact, isn't completely contrived and came 100% from the imagination of a screenwriter. This applies to a lot of lore, where the origin can be traced back to something real that occured, granted that the story has been magnified, altered or perverted over time to be nothing like the the original telling of the source story.

Subjects related to Zombies.

Chronic Wasting Desease (wikipedia)

Zombie (wikipedia)

(Zombies are persons, which are in a hypnotic trance by an initial Voodoo-rite from the Haitian Creoles. Later, other people made their own cult of it, in the movies.)

@urbanemovies​ 

I wouldn't want to know, how many people kill their neighbours, because they think they are zombies. If they kill it, they are aware of it. Then the only question is, how many other people can be aware of these people?

I think that these movies in deed are dangerous for sensible instable and mentally endangered persons. People who can't decide between fiction and reality less than 70%. Especially dumb people with low I.Q. could be tempted to grow mental illness about the subject. You would be surprised how many weirdos are around us, but to get them all behind bars is impossible. So the systems only take the most dangerous of them in care. On the other hand I think most people are able to decide between fiction and reality. I guess it's just a few who really freak out.

Zynical is, that the zombies in the movies symbolize mentally sick people who should be killed as fast as can. How fas cistic. Just imho.

@Breumaster​ I think in this case, if would be some other kind imagined danger they would be reacting to zombies. So, I don't think zombies are to be blamed. But, I get the dangers of their portrayal being so exaggerated and so frequent that it likely elevates the threat level.

@Breumaster​,

I have experience the same here with people making flawed claims and not willing to change their minds when presented with the actual facts.

While, there is a little bit a truth to the heart condition claim, the information is misunderstood by them, misapplied and a completely incorrect and flawed conclusion has been drawn. While, the numbers show it may be as low an 1 out 50,000 vaccinated individuals who experience a heart inflammation condition (depending on gender and age) after vaccination, some of which would have experienced the condition even if they not had been vaccinated. Plus, almost all these cases were very mild and were not life-threating. The death risk from being unvaccinated as shown from the numbers below from the CDC was far greater. Its like being afraid the bogeyman is going to get you and running down the middle of the interstate during rush hour; the real danger should be pretty obvious.

FACTS: The results show that rates of myocarditis after mRNA vaccines were highest in male adolescents and young male adults (50-139 cases per million in 12-17 year olds and 28-147 cases per million in 18-29 year olds).

For girls and boys aged 5-11 years and females aged 18-29 years, rates of myocarditis after vaccination with Pfizer might be fewer than 20 cases per million.

For individuals aged 18-29 years, myocarditis is probably higher after vaccination with Moderna than with Pfizer, and for 12-39 year olds, myocarditis or pericarditis might be lower when the second dose is given more than 30 days after the first dose"

FACTS: "...unvaccinated persons had 13.9 and 53.2 times the risks for infection and COVID-19–associated death, respectively, compared with fully vaccinated persons who received booster doses, and 4.0 and 12.7 times the risks compared with fully vaccinated persons without booster doses."

FACTS: Based on the 1 out of 50,000 incidence cited in the study. They would have been 1666 times more likely to become a millionaire, 5 times more likely to get injured by a toliet, 4.35 times more likely to bowl a perfect game or win an Oscar, and 4 times more likely to hit a hole in one than to get even get mild heart inflamation. Again, basing a life-altering decision on 1 in 50,000 chance does not seem rational to me.

@dan_dassow​ The one on the thread is longer @2300, but the one on the list is 1998 characters including code. I would hazard a guess 2000 might be the limit, I can on stand-by if it won't go through.