[Poll] Nominations for the Worst Movie of All Time (Round 1)

Thanks for the information and your kind words, I'll format the links in the list now. And yeah, don't rush, I'll make sure there's plenty of time for suggestions before moving onto the next round (I will probably post warnings here as we get nearer the closing time) - but for now its a work in progress and the finals date is TBA. So take your time :)

List links have been updated, thanks - I had to include " to make it work, but otherwise it should be fine now. :)

add [link=https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/-poll-nominations-for-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-round-1] Discuss the List here [/link] (if this works) .

I think the links in the list itself are all working now. Thank you both.

Not sure what you mean with the above - are you just showing examples?

Okay I'll re-word it if you think that's a better idea. Cheers.If you (ACT_1) and Albstein can provide me with your IMDB profile links I'll put them in the thanks section - at the moment those just link to your get-satisfaction profiles, because I don't know where to find your IMDB profiles.

Here you are: https://www.imdb.com/user/ur96704703/?ref_=nb_usr_prof_0Tip: you can click on users' Get Satisfaction accounts and find poll suggestions by them. Then click on the link to their lists, and you can see the account that created it.

Updated, and thanks for the tip :)

(Special Thanks to act_1, albstein) Change to https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/act_1 to see what I am doing here @ GS it is better than my Profile Page .

(Special Thanks to act_1, albstein) Change to https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/act_1 to see what I am doing here @ GS it is better than my Profile Page .

No problem mate, it's linked to your GS profile now :)

? ?https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/ot-almost-everything-ive-done-has-been-deletedPosted 1 year agoby albstein- - -Dan can delete ACT_1's message Monday ? ?.

I'm sure Dan or another Champion and/or IMDB rep can cleanup this thread when they get a chance. Thank you for reaching out and attempting to neaten things up.

Dan already deleted some of my junk here at my request - and here are more albstein's message is an interesting history.

Let's give them a few days (afterall it is the weekend) then if we still think things are messy I'll contact them directly requesting a cleanup. :)

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Thank you for your nominations. The list has been updated to reflect this. :)

It's a custom tracking link to the discussion, normally bit.ly formats MDB links as imdb.to/whatever but it didn't work for this one so I formatted the second part of the link. It just directs to the original page but allows me to access some analytic information, such as what country the viewers of the page are from etc... that way if I advertise the poll on Twitter etc I can tell where the traffic is coming from and what source is working best. If this is bad practice I'll remove it and replace it with a direct link.

Richard Shepherd,It's probably not a good idea to use compressed links. Unfortunately, they are frequently abused by spammers and people distributing malware. These kind of links are also likely to trigger Get Satisfaction's spam filter.With your permission, I will remove these links from the posts in this thread.

Yeah you can go ahead and remove them, it's not a big deal to me, they link directly to this thread so you could replace them with the direct link if you like (where appropriate). I originally only used them for readability purposes mainly, but now I know about the whole [link] syntax it's not needed. Cheers.

Compressed links replaced / remove as indicated.

Thanks Dan.

Added and credited, thanks :) - Would you like to suggest why you think this movie is particularly bad?

It's incompetent on every level.

That sounds like a good enough reason to me :)

James: I assume you've seen it get the MST/RiffTrax treatment?

Yes, the first time I saw it was during a late night program on public television where they would screen b-grade movies. I've seen lots of bad movies but Manos is by far the absolute worst I've seen!

Then I can say this: you haven't seen Birdemic.

I have, but I still don't think it's as bad as Manos.

I guess I hate it because it's new; the Manos makers were trying (although terribly) and at least there weren't any scenes of hearing mountain lions or giving 50 percent discounts. :)

I still have to say Birdemic is in my top 5 of the worst movies I've ever seen. It's absolutely painful to watch and doesn't even get hilariously bad until the last 30 minutes where they end up fending the birds off with coat hangers.

I'll have to watch these 2 movies (and try to keep a straight face :p )

Oh, I beg to differ... Rod's insufferable-ness, Natalie's Victoria's Secret job... Rod's awful friend... round numbers... Birdemic is the standard for all B movies to live by. Manos is the close second, with Torgo legs, bad dubbing, and annoying soundtrack. :)

I own Birdemic and Manos, they are on my watchlist (personal not IMDB), I'll be moving it up a bit priority wise so that I can see what you guys are talking about :)Looking forward to cringing at every frame!

Thanks for the resource, if you'd like to pick 3 from that list yourself to nominate for this poll you can, either way it will serve as a guide for some people stuck for ideas :)

Nioklay, love the use of the phrase 'nightmare fuel'... that's used a lot on MST3K!

Just looked up the song... good grief! But the funniest thing is the lady that gets her name put in a rectangular square in the credits??? :D

NarniaisAwesome not as well-versed with MST3K, unfortunately: it was never a thing where I am and catching up with it requires abundance of free time. I'll get to it, eventually. :) I think I caught "nightmare fuel" on TV Tropes, which had some role in popularizing the term. Richard Shepherd narrowing that list down to three... Well, I guess Skazka. Est (2012), Violent Shit (1989) (because good grief, even for an intended low-key effort that is inexcusable level, one of the few movies I can't finish watching properly. I guess I should try to do that this Halloween season as a part of a marathon as I'm interested in 1989 and 1990 in particular) and After Last Season (2009). I keep wondering how that last one remains under the radar for so long.

You'd probably like MST3K if you try it... some people might think it's 'silly', but really it is witty and smart. :) But do NOT watch the new one... they've ruined it.

Nikolay: I've added your nominations, can I please grab your profile link and I'll credit them properly. Thank you for your suggestions and your explanation as to why they deserve nomination.Narnia: I'll take a look when I get a chance, I'll try to avoid the new one as you indicate.

Richard Shepherd, if by profile link you mean my user page, then here it is. Glad to be of any help! Not so fun fact: I also have an IMDb name page, apart from user one. It's a bit of a mess and some of the titles in my filmography are not far off from this poll's subject. :)

By profile link I did mean your user page yes - thank you. I'll update the list now so you are credited properly. This is the default approach I am taking to nomination credits. If you would prefer a different link, such as your name page or GS page, then just let me know and I'll adjust it accordingly.

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/-poll-nominations-for-the-worst-movie-of-all-time-round-1?to...I wanted my GS name on the List.

ACT_1: As far as I can tell the link for where you are credited in the list (in the special thanks at the top) currently points to your GS page. i.e. https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/people/act_1It has been like this for sometime now, If this is not what you wanted, please let me know and I'll adjust it as requested.If you decide to nominate some films for the list itself I'm happy to credit your nominations to whatever profile page you like (which I assume is your GS page from your above post).

I saw the change way back when. Thank you ;-)Others may want their GS name not User name ??.

Okay cool, as long as I know you are satisfied with the way you are credited on the list. :)If someone requests a GS link I'll be happy to do it that way, otherwise I'll generally default to their IMDB profile link, unless I cannot find it and they do not provide it. In which case I'll be leaving it unlinked for a while to allow them time to give me their link, if still no answer I'll link to their GS profile (because I can find that easily). Hope that clears some things up for you, and anybody else wondering the same thing.

? ? These are Lists not Names ... 8. Glitter (2001) Nominated By Riverotterhttps://www.imdb.com/list/ls042996901/ 9. Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010) Nominated By: NarniaIsAweshttps://www.imdb.com/list/ls042607288/ 11. Jack and Jill (I) (2011) Nominated By: Joe Siegelhttps://www.imdb.com/list/ls042905296/ 15. The Weird World of LSD (1967) Nominated By: Pencho15https://www.imdb.com/list/ls042423218/.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I added these when I was quite tired and I've obviously copied the wrong link across - sorry to all those affected. I'll fix it right now, thank you pointing this out to me. - I'm not new to IMDB but I am new to GS and Polls so this is a learning process for me, your help is truly appreciated. :)

I did the same mistake the other day, happens to everyone every once in a while :)

Updated and amended as indicated. Thank you again for pointing this out. If I make any more silly mistakes be sure to let me know - I'd rather live and learn than die in ignorance ;-)

Thanks for the nominations, the list has been updated to reflect this and you have been credited for these suggestions :)

Whoa, that is certainly quite a list, I'll leave it up to you if you wish to pick your bottom 3 from those (or any others), if not I myself may use your list to find my own 3 to nominate. Cheers for the suggestions and the resource :)

Okay, bottom 3... definitely Birdemic! and Guy From Harlem and... Incredibly Strange Creatures! Is it weird to say I enjoyed making that list??? lol

Oops, I'd like to remove Strange Creatures and replace it with Replica, please.

Thanks! Your nominations have been added and credited. And, No - I can't say it's weird! - If I did that would be hypocritical, because the very fact I've created this poll/list implies I take some kind of (arguably weird) pleasure in extremely terrible films :D

Okay i'll fix that for you now

Amended as requested. :)

Thanks... I'm guessing you like MST/RiffTrax? If you don't know what I'm talking about, go look it up RIGHT NOW! :D

I didn't know this existed, after reading only a couple of paragraphs I'm dead keen on watching some hahaha - thanks for a source of some amusement :)

"James Wan waves his coat-hanger as a sign of respect" lmao - (from the rifftrax homepage featured vid)

You'll love it! I've been watching them all day.

I've had a chance to watch a little (not a lot but I will in time) and I have to say so far very funny! Thanks again for pointing me towards this little gem :)

It has always hurt me to see Santa Claus (1959) in a list of bad movies, and I have always tried to defend this misunderstood Mexican movie. I grew with it and while its far from great, it doesn't deserve all the bad reviews as most of them are based on missunderstanding our christmas traditions, and also on a terrible dubbed version to english that change things. https://www.imdb.com/review/rw2537885/?ref_=tt_urvThere are many much worst Mexican films that should be trashed much more than this film.

Mangunsong Song - I don't understand your post, sorry. Pencho - It's interesting to see how cultural values reflect on a person's critique of a film, thanks for taking the time to voice your opinion. Even if Santa Claus (1959) does end up on this list (it hasn't so far) in subsequent rounds I'll be asking people to vote to narrow things down, so never fear - many movies that are on this initial list will not make the finals :)

Richard: You're welcome! I can say that Birdemic is very funny, as well as they're shorts and the Star Wars riffs. Oh, and 'Kingdom of the Spiders' is hysterical. Here's some top highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW0fdFKJjWY

Cheers, I'll be checking that YT link out shortly :D

NarniaisAwesome, I strongly disagree with like half of those movies being contenders for worst: many of them were misunderstood for years and there are a lot of respected efforts here, like Carnival of Souls (1962). I respect your opinion, but it's genuinely hard to see it on the same list as Eegah or The Beast of Yucca Flats. I have a feeling that despite you're into b-movies you've yet to reach the bottom of no return I did already, or it might just be me being way more forgiving with movies that try, because I've seen a lot that don't bother with that. Mediocrity is arguably far worse then being cheesy.

Well, partly I was giving a list to Richard; I wasn't sure what kind of list he had in mind! But for my top ones I chose some that were like, 'Did the director not even look at this!?!' With films like Carnival of Souls and even Plan 9, you could at least tell someone was trying. But Guy From Harlem? I know the bar has been lowered, but... that's no reason for what goes on there. :D

Also, I think maybe part of our difference is that I don't watch 'slasher' movies and you have, and probably the cheap ones of those are waaaay worse than say Birdemic, because it's just non-stop pointless gore with no plot. Is that true?

NarniaisAwesome I've seen a lot of slashers and I adore that genre, yes. I must admit, reputation for them being pointless gorefests is not entirely undeserved, but the core of a slasher is what I call "ping-pong structure", where POV shifts from killer to victim. It amuses me how genre successfully makes audience playing chess with themselves. That structure can be used to a great success in any genre, but slashers just mastered it somehow so it's what I'm looking for when I watch them. I must admit, it's interesting to find slashers which use little to no gore or even no kills and yet somehow achieve the needed effect. In order to illustrate my point in 5 minutes: here's E-Type's music video (which I also added to IMDb, btw) for "Angels Crying". Cheesy eurodance song and dance moves aside it still impresses me with how it managed to replicate the tension from Friday the 13th (1980) (it is practically a remake of it) with no gore whatsoever. In fact most murders are implied and yet, effect is pretty much the same and is surprisingly unsettling. My favorite shot from that music video is when you see killer's disembodied pair of legs when he (she?) appears in front of victim. It's a classic slasher touch which messes your perception a bit and can make killer appear as an unstoppable machine, while in fact anyone can look as menacing if you only see the shoes and pants.

In my opinion, 'horror without gore' is very admirable, and somehow an even truer sign of talent.

Narnia: Yeah, I probably should have explained more clearly in OP that I was more leaning towards bad movies you hate, not bad movies you love - but that's alright, it's only Round 1 - in Round 2 we'll be narrowing things down and in that round we'll probably see a lot of 'bad movies you love' not being included.

Narnia: Yeah, I probably should have explained more clearly in OP that I was more leaning towards bad movies you hate, not bad movies you love - but that's alright, it's only Round 1 - in Round 2 we'll be narrowing things down and in that round we'll probably see a lot of 'bad movies you love' not being included.

Yes, Fantastic Four (2015) sucks! :D Also, Richard seems to be having people pick three, so you may want to consider one more.

List updated and credited. Thanks for the nominations Joe! I appreciate you giving some reasons as to why you think they should be on the list. Also, as Narnia says above, you are welcome to choose one more if you like :)

Oh, good. My third option is Armageddon by Michael Bay, It's too ridiculous, this is a movie where logic was not used and they did not even try to give coherence to the story, it seems more like a movie Made by children who have no idea what they are talking about

NarniaisAwesome Nah, I've seen so much worse then Fan4stic. Movie was ridiculously botched by last-minute decisions, but it's clear in some scenes that if Josh Trank's vision was preserved better it would have been a fresh take, at least. I really loved some Cronenberg-like scenes in the movie and while it might seem out of place when adapting these characters, I've never seen that touch applied to their predicament before. It has a lot in common with Scanners (1981) which, while better received, still was never a critical darling. The problem is that visuals of the botched attempt at Fantastic Four were dated at the time of the release, while 1981 full-on practical effort still holds up well and never had the same kind of limitation.

Oh, I've seen worse than 4, too, I guess I just dislike most superhero films enough to never want to watch it again. It's just a bit 'over the top.' ;)

Joe: Armageddon has been added and credited. Thanks for your input :)

Added and credited. Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly explain why you feel these two are so bad, it's great that we are getting such a diverse range of films for the list. :)

I agree completely!

Thank you for bringing this up EIM. Indeed, the flavour of this poll is more about the latter option as you so rightly point out. I don't mind if people want to nominate films that are 'so bad you love love them' but ideally, as you suggest, the main idea here is to find a movie so appalling that every moment it takes of your time feels like a little bit of your soul being ripped away :)

No problem, it's your poll of course, but I think there's more than a subtle nuance between the two categories, it's basically the same fine line between the lovable loser or the poor schmuck and the truly despicable person (as far as our perceptions go)

Yeah, agreed. I'll be making it more clear that this poll is more focused on 'bad as bad' rather than 'bad as good' when the next round opens. :)

Added and credit. Thanks for the suggestion :)I haven't seen The Weird World of LSD in its entirety but I have seen bits and pieces of it - to me its nothing more than a propaganda film - and that is usually an umbrella term for categorically bad films - not just because of the quality but because of the content. As you suggest misinformation and fear are devices of control but are not rational solutions to real world problems.

I've amended the list to match your above replacement request. It's not a problem to switch things around/change your mind at this stage - that's part of the idea of having multiple rounds to the nominations. Nothing is locked in at the moment, but later, in future rounds things will be more tight - but don't worry, there'll be ample time and notifications before that happens - so feel free to keep revising your suggestions as often as you like until then. :)

Okay, thank you! I will Replica in round 2. :)

Sounds good to me.FYI: Exactly when Round 2 opens (following this rounds closure) will be entirely dependent on the level of activity of this round. In other words, when people seem to have stopped nominating/discussing for a few days I'll post a notice saying this round will end in a few days after that - allowing for those sitting on the fence to still have a chance.I realize some people might only check in to GS once a week (or less) so I want the majority of the community to be exposed to the opportunity to nominate - but at some point the time will come where we must move on. :)

I appreciate your suggestion and will take it into consideration.At this point in time, as of Round 1 of the nominations - the element of overall rating on IMDB is independent of this list - that's part of the theme behind it - because of this, currently, the list order will just be in the order I receive the nominations. Ratings may come into play in later rounds, such as in tie-breaker scenarios, more will become clear in the future when I announce Round 2. For readability purposes however, I think your suggestion may be warranted, and I may reorder the list in the near future. For the immediate time however things will not be changed.Your feedback is still greatly appreciated and I look forward to hearing more from you, and anyone else :)

Richard, I forgot to let you know that you can watch RiffTraxes for free on Shout! Factory: http://www.shoutfactorytv.com/series/rifftraxAnd there's some on Amazon Prime (you can sign for a 30 day free trial of that if you don't have it already)

Oh tyvm! I'll check that out :)I'm a prime member but I'm in Australia so some of the content available is different for me, for example I can't watch IMDB's Freedive - but I'll check, thanks for the link :D

This is exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for, I'm looking forward to see what you decide on :D

@Richard Shepherd,I second Stephen Atwood (AKA TsarStepan) as an expert on horrible films.I recommend his polls.Alphabeticalhttp://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2014/05/imdb-polls-alphabetical-by-author.html#TsarStepanBy Votehttp://mypollwatch.blogspot.com/2015/03/imdb-polls-descending-order-of-votes-by.html#TsarStepan

Thanks Dan, I'll take a look.

Tsar knows bad movies because he knows RiffTrax (or vice versa!)! :D Not claiming to be an expert, but I know, too! Who can answer the following questions: (excluding Tsar, because he probably knows)The film Monster Dog is from what year?Who is the famous star in it?Also in it is actor Emilio Linder, who was also in what classic MST3K film?Bonus: The MST3K film is known best the title credited in the movie, but what is the film's "other" title?

The Someone-Try-to-Answer-My-Trivia-and-Let-This-Go-Live Bump!