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Tuesday, August 18th, 2020 3:27 AM

Live-Poll: Iconic Underdogs

Intro:

In some movies there are underdog characters that totally gained the attention of the audience. Many of them had an impact that lasted for decades. Some others are from newer date. Which of these iconic underdogs is your favorite? Tell us here.

Rules:

No anime or animated. No women characters, there are enough woman characters for a second part. Only one per movie. That should avoid that there are ten candidates of one movie and the rest has no place on it. Which is the best fitting of them might be debateable. No documentation. No movies like The Godfather (part 1 or 3), because only in part 2 Vito Corleone was a underdog. In part 1 & 3 the Corleones already were accepted business men and the head of the organisation. In Scarface, Tony Montana is also shown as a underdog, when he came to America.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls081317150/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/zPV4QXG7NbQ/

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4 years ago

My favorite: Harmonica in once Upon A Time in The West

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FYC: 

Spartacus

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Peter:
Great! He'll be on the list. :D

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4 years ago

FYC: Micky Ward - The Fighter
Jim Braddock - Cinderella Man
Billy Beane - Moneyball
Jamal - Slumdog Millionaire
Ishaan Awasthi - Taare Zameen Par
Bill McKay - The Candidate

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Thank you pencho. great candidates I would have picked them myself. Except Bill McKay. I guess I should watch the movie. All your suggestions are on the list.

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4 years ago

This one is ready to go! :D

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4 years ago

FYC:

Clarice Starling  (only a student, a woman in a male dominated profession, dismissed by many men in the film, from poor background, is sent to Hannibal Lecter only because she is an attractive woman and is not expected to help the investigation much)

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I'm struggling with myself. On the one hand, she is well situated with gesture and phrases, but on the other hand she really had to fight to be kept serious, especially by male colleagues. I must admit, that I never saw her as an underdog. But I'll put her on the list. Let's see if it starts a discussion.

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Did you mean to say that in the book she's chosen because of her education? In the film, Crawford does tell her that he knows she was in a class of his and that he "gave (her) an A" (and she corrects him: "A-, sir") but everything else in the movie points to that as being only the ostensible reason. If he was sending someone because of their expertise in Behavioral Criminology, he could have sent, well, an expert and not a student.

 

(I would argue, though, that her education actually highlights some of the very reasons that she is an underdog: being an orphaned ward of the state, especially in Appalachia and from such modest means before being orphaned,  she must have overcome some great odds to end up at and do so well at UVA and Quantico.)

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4 years ago

YooHoo! The thread is back! I'm so happy! Seems that they all appear back in some time! :D

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*bump* to da riddim of da night!

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4 years ago

How is Jules (in Pulp Fiction) an underdog? Or Leon (in The Professional)?

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FYC:

 

Will in 'Good Will Hunting'

Harvey Milk in 'Milk'

Tonya Harding in 'I, Tonya'

Thelma & Louise

Woodward & Bernstein in 'All the President's Men'

Daniel Kaffee in 'A Few Good Men'

Norma Rae

Evey in 'V for Vendetta'

Erin Brockovich

 

 

Rudy Baylor in 'The Rainmaker' (the quintessential underdog but not sure iconic)

Rudy in 'Rudy' (same)

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Why do you think they aren't?

They work as low lifes in a criminal structure. Same did Rocky! Isn't it?

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Breumaster, I'm not sure they would suffice as underdog template. Leon has some shades of this, true, but Jules...  

 

What probably makes them confused for underdogs is the fact that they have a character arc similar to ones, but... Really both are hardened hitmen who are established as some of the best in their 'profession'. 

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That's a good point. Maybe I'll kick him. ;)

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Ruby:

I took Jules from the list and put some of your suggestions to the list.

Now there are 35 options. :D

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 Lester Nygaard on Fargo series

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I also skip the "no women"-rule. This poll sug. might be running allone.