Live Polls: The Most Popular Celebrities Honored by Queen Elizabeth II

@urbanemovies​ 

Thank you for pointing that urgent points out. I corrected the mistakes and will re-check. Just need a couple of hours to proceed. I'll also make up a better title.

@urbanemovies​ 

Hi, urbanemovies.

I enhanced the list with datas and I modified the question for also use on commanders and officers. Can you tell me, if there are things which are still wrong or written false? Please help me check if the datas are right. I rely on the wikipedia database, but you seem to be fitter in knowing UK. Again thank you for your input. There is one slot left. Do you want to give me your favorite candidate for this poll idea? Thank you in common. :D

@Breumaster​ I believe there are five British orders for the arts, only the top two most senior orders qualify for using Dame or Sir in one of 15 realms formerly under QE2.

• Knight/Dame Grand Cross (GBE)
• Knight/Dame Commander (KBE/DBE)

"The order is limited to 300 Knights and Dames Grand Cross, 845 Knights and Dames Commander, and 8,960 Commanders. There are no limits applied to the total number of members of the fourth and fifth classes, but no more than 858 Officers and 1,464 Members may be appointed per year."

I would add these two giants in the entertainment field to your answer pool, both held or hold membership in the most elite general knighthood class, the Order of Merit. The Order of Merit has only eighteen members currently and is limited to twenty-four living members. I changed my mind about including Olivier, since he received the most senior order of knighthood, the Order of Merit from QE2 in 1981. He was already a British knight before QE2, but I think this second more elite knighthood award from QE2 justifies his inclusion.

"Ser Laurence Olivier was initially knighted by her father in 1948. "Olivier's honours included a knighthood (1947), a life peerage (1970) and the Order of Merit (1981)." 

QE2 Dames Maggie Smith, Harriet Walter and Agatha Christie all belong too. I would lose some of the lesser known or lower order ranked men (like Jacobi & Hawthorne) on the existing list to make room for them or split the list into a female and male versions. You will have at least twenty-five well known people, if not more on both lists.

@Breumaster​ , Four more Sirs and Dames

@Breumaster​ ,

Wikipedia is generally very accurate regarding matters related to Royal Family.

According to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_British_Empire

... the title of the award is "Order of the British Empire". If "the" is at the beginning of a sentence it would be capitalized; in most of your usage it should be "the Order of the British Empire".

@Breumaster​ I don't think you need to be more detailed than the notes you have, just the abbreviated grade and year only. I just gave you the background for your information. If it were me, I would use the higher grade and higher fame to weight the field and use it to determine who gets cut on a single list of the top thirty-five.

​@Breumaster​, some notable male Commanders of the British Empires (CBE), Order of British Empire (OBE),  or (MBE) if you chose to split the list. They are worth mentioning since many are young and will probably go on to receive a higher order award (Sir), later in their careers. I count with suggestions 31 males for their own poll suggestion, I sure you already omitted four men for space considerations, so it would be no problem to max this one as your part one suggestion.

@urbanemovies​ 

Thank you very much. I'll work out the TWO lists. (second list)

There is a reason why I made up two lists now. The first is, that I don't want to kick so many good people of the first list. and the second is that you suggested so many also very good people that I can make up a second list. Maybe you have some others to complete that second list? I'll work it out. I hope I don't need so much time, but I also try to be correct, so it's check and re-check for me. I won't only take the highest investured on the first list to make a dull second list, both lists should be equal quality somehow. Consistant. So e.g. there is one of the two Beatles on one of the lists. They won't get into competition among each other.

I guess there are a few more investured celebrities. Do you have some for me?

@Breumaster​ All four of the Beatles garnered some order of the British Empire, but only two were of the more senior order and allowed to call themselves knights and use the Sir designation. I am still advocating for a male and female seperated lists. The copy and move feature on the lists would make it easy to seperate them that way.

It is not hard to envision George Harrison and John Lennon being knighted, if they had lived longer. Especially, when IMHO, Ringo would likely would have been the last to achieve the honor and he was knighted.

@urbanemovies​ 

The problem about a separated male and female list is, that there many more males than females. Then it would be three lists.

@Breumaster​

1) Click edit list

2) Check boxes of the items you want to move or copy

(I prefer copying instead of moving, then mass deleting the excess, it is and extra step, but safer in case you mess up somehow)

*Also, your notes will transfer over, it is good to use one poll suggestion to make another and cut the workload by not doing everything twice.

3) Select Move or Copy

4) Select List to be Copied or Moved to

(Scroll down, it likely will be near the top in this case)

@urbanemovies​ 

Thank you for explaining. Meanwhile I've thought on your idea about splitting the list into genders. Now I also think it could be better then. So I've split the first two lists into dames and knights and a third list has all the members, officers and commanders (all genders.) I'll consider your newly suggestions as well. Again - you're great help. Thank you! When it goes online, it's also your poll as well. :D

@Breumaster​ On some topics that have multiple possibilities, I do the same.  As you can see from my example, I label it a MASTER LIST(ie Purple Hearts honorees, DC characters, Star Wars characters, Marvel characters, etc.) and use that list to spin other poll suggestions out of and then I don't have to duplicate the work again

Well I think we now have three strong lists which are pretty interesting. I just have to put the third link in the poll-suggestion-intro. Please look at them. I think we did a pretty good job on it. ;D

@Peter_pbn​ 

Thank you, Peter. I'll put them on the list.

Another set of QE2 Knight and Dame appointments: Sir? Bob Hope (honorary) and Dame Flora Robson.

Just a thought, you could make the final #35 option an everything else option or Another Queen Elizabeth II Appointed Knight or Dame Not Listed option to cover anything missed or left off for space considerations.

Sir Winston Churchill & Dame Margaret Thatcher

(both have multiple honors above a regular knighthood including the Order of Merit, the Order of the Garter, etc.)

@urbanemovies​ 

Good idea! I changed the list-names.

I guess I will have to make up two additional lists for Dames and Knights, if the suggestions go ahead.

Now we even got 4 lists. That's much! Corrections? Ready to go! :D

@Breumaster​ Why would you have to make more lists??? Your female only #1 list is already limited to Dames+ and your male only #2 list is already limited to Knights+. You just need to change the titles, unless I am missing something.

ERRORS

Again, on your third list, #21 Hugh Bonneville does not belong on these lists. He has never received any level of the Order of the British Empire or another knightly award (honorary) or otherwise. Also, #14 Jim Broadbent is on the list, but he turned down his OBE in 2002. Commanders of the British Empire, Rowan Atkinson and Colin Firth would make fine replacements in their stead.

@urbanemovies​ 

Ok, kicked Broadbent and Bonnevile of list #3.

But I already changed the titles of the list. Please re-check.

You advised me to change the titles to:

Queen Elizabeth II Appointed Celebrity Dames,

Queen Elizabeth II Appointed Celebrity Knights,

Queen Elizabeth II Celebrity Junior Appointees

... and I immediatelly did. Or do you have better titles now?

@Breumaster​ 

I just meant, that if you bring more and more Dames and knights I would have to make more and more lists, because they are limited to 35 options per list. In the case of the Officers and Commanders I made up a fourth list, if you got more suggestions. :D

​@Breumaster​

On your third list, #30. Michael Redgrave seems misplaced. He is a Knight Bachelor and you seem to have grouped those on your second list.

As for the third and forth list, I think it better not to split them arbitrarily as a #1 and a #2 list. I would split them male-female again or use the levels, Commanders of the British Empire and Officiers of the British Empire. They are pretty evenly split with about twenty each, splitting them both ways and easy enough to fill out.

As I recall, the only suggestion I made was for a female and male list and later a Dames only and Knights only list.

As for the titles, I suggested such as this or that. I meant for you to come up with your own spin. I do think it is a improvement over the original ones being shorter and communicating the scopes better. 

@urbanemovies​ 

Good points. I'll do that.

@Breumaster​ 

Done.

@urbanemovies​ 

I know you got the better knowledge of English, so I trust in your verdict and will change those questions. Again thank you for your help to best carry out my idea. :D

@urbanemovies​ 

Done. :D

I wouldn't create any more lists, but to fill out the Knight and Dame lists, I ran into some big name sports, business, entertainment, politics and military figures who received honorary awards from QE2.

I would not kick any real knights or dames off for an honorary one, but if you have some open spots, an attention grabbing big name like Spielberg, Mother Theresa, Kevin Spacey, Bono or Pele, seems like a good idea.

Recipients of Honorary British Knighthoods

List of honorary British knights and dames