Live Poll: Oscars 2019 Postmortem — 'Roma' vs. 'Green Book'

Did 'Green Book'(2018), Oscar-nominated in five categories score an upset Best Picture victory over 'Roma' (2018), Oscar-nominated in ten categories at the 91st Academy Awards ceremony? It has been suggested that a minority bloc of voters who take issue with streaming films being considered for Oscars engineered the upset. The Oscars preferential voting system likely was an unwitting accomplice, by reassigning votes from other Best Picture nominees until a clear majority winner emerges. As such, sentiment against a film can factor as much as the having the most top-ranked votes on the initial ballot. An unbiased head-to-head voting competition would decide if this matter is a true conspiracy or just bunk and settle the issue once and for all.

Which 2019 Oscar nominee would get your vote in a pure head-to-head competition for Best Picture?

See the two competing Best Picture Oscar nominees rerun the 2019 race, this time in a head-to head match-up here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls046530068

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/RgsMxH0go2A/

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ElMaruecan82

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5 years ago

I think now that the Oscar fever is going down, we'd need more time to determine which was the Best Picture winner... let's think of Moonlight vs. La La Land, The Revenant vs. Spotlight, Birdman vs. Boyhood... which one stood the test of time, one can even say Gravity was a more deserving film than 12 Years a Slave, but which 2013 films do we most remember? The Wolf of Wall Street, Frozen and Her.

Even BlackKklansman wasn't Spike Lee's Top 5 material to be honest. I must ay the film that entertained me the most was Vice but I knew it wasn't going to make it.

urbanemovies

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A good article on the topic The Oscars’ messed-up voting process, explained.
It seems bolder more polarizing films are penalized with a tiered voting system. You are penalized for having a high percentage of last place votes, even though you might have the most first place votes. A safer, more mediocre film can emerge to win with a strong concentration of third, forth and fifth place votes, even though it is nobody's favorite film.

To be fair, all voting systems are going to have advantages and disadvantages. It is easy to criticize, the key is to pick the least flawed system. Supposedly, the current system is designed to pick consensus Best Picture winners.

I wonder how those other match-ups would fare in a pure head-to head vote. Moonlight vs. La La Land, The Revenant vs. Spotlight, Birdman vs. Boyhood or Gravity vs. 12 Years a Slave. I also agree some of these won't stand the test of time and are more a function of the circumstances and timing of the vote. It is easy to find numerous examples of movies that never (in hindsight) should have won the Oscar Best Picture.

In this situation, it easy to see how a hate vote by ranking a clear favorite film eighth out of eight nominees on enough ballots can counteract a film that that has the most first or second place votes, if the voting process goes on long enough.The next highest vote from other films are reassigned after each ballot as the lowest place finisher on each ballot is eliminated. Our favorite film, The Godfather (1972) was the target of a similar campaign on IMDb with almost 2.5% of voters rating it a one to lower its IMDb rating and its overall rank. These voters intent was more about preventing the film from being top ranked than it was about hating the film.

5 years ago

ElMaruecan82

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Oh yeah, July 2008 is a month that will live in infamy for every Godfather fan, the day the fanboys war started. I must say I also voted 1 for The Dark Knight because I got so sick and tired with the voting taking my favorite film down (now, it's a 9)

5 years ago

Horst

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5 years ago

Green Book won Best Picture at the Globes and the PGA and the subject was pure Oscar bait. I think people were paying too much attention to Farrelly not being nominated for director and overlooked that Cuaron was not nominated for Best Editing, which is as much of a deal breaker. Sure it is always easy to say afterwards, but I think it was at least a 50-50 thingey before. The real baffling thing is how The Favourite lost Production Design and Costumes and still Colman won over Close. But I am drifting away. I watched Green Book and I would not say it was Best Picture winner material. Roma I am yet to see, but I'd be surprised if i don't prefer it. Usually dig Cuarón's stuff.

urbanemovies

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5 years ago

Oscars 2019 Postmortem — 'Roma' vs. 'Green Book'

Seems like a very topical face-off at the moment.
'Roma' vs. 'Green Book' Oscars postmortem
Green Book' Oscars Triumph Reflects a Race Turned Topsy-Turvy ...

The Preferential Ballot Explained — or How Green Book Beat Roma

''(Oscar voter simulations indicated)... that Roma got the most number one votes but it didn’t really place high if it wasn’t number one. It didn’t really pick up votes in later rounds. So Roma turned out to be more divisive than Green Book. ..... That means it wasn’t just two movies vying for Best Picture but probably more than that. That means no film won the first round. That means there were multiple rounds where ballots were transferred and retabulated, and in that scenario, Green Book prevailed.

rubyfruit76

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5 years ago

Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/RgsMxH0go2A/?ref_=po_ho Cheers!

dan_dassow

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5 years ago

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