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How many votes do poll receive from unregistered voters?

We often say that Home Page polls being buried under the Editor's picks doesn't help them to get visibility. It is true. But, I look at the other lists in the Editor's Picks section and they all have 10 000+ views. Granted a good part of those are repeated viewing, but still. It is not true that a Homepage poll gets only 600 votes. In reality, it probably gets at least 10 times that amount, but only votes from registered voters are compiled, and therefore it appears that only 600 people voted. 

Perhaps, in reality, I have got 910 000 votes (if you count unregistered voters). 

Note: I'm not saying that we should open the polls to unregistered voters. It would open the door to bots to sabotage our work.

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No one can vote without registering with IMDb. That said, it used to be far more difficult to create an account with bots. They used to require a credit card (a very short lived verification method) several years ago. 

Any vote rigging by bots are done by bots creating fake IMDb accounts.

Test it. Sign out of your IMDb account. Vote for a poll. Then refresh the polling page. I've accidentally tried to vote for polls while not properly signed into my account. The vote doesn't stick unless you're signed into an IMDb account.

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@Tsarstepan​ 

 The vote doesn't stick unless you're signed into an IMDb account.

Perhaps, my post wasn't clear enough, but this is exactly what I'm talking about. A lot of unregistered users "vote" and their votes aren't counted by IMDb. If the votes of the "unregistered voters" were counted, I think we could make idk 5x or 10x more votes. Basically, my post is asking: "How many votes do we lose because of the registration process."

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Yeah. If creating bots to cheat a given poll is relatively easy via the account creation process? The deluge of bots would become unmanageable if that gateway was open to allow everyone vote.

And remember that Amazon is a for-profit entity. They make money from the data mining and selling of the data they gather from registered accounts and their activities like other online for-profit entities.

And most if not all online polls take at least the voter's email before allowing the individual to vote. Why would Amazon break that trend?

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Unregistered voters voting?  Sounds a lot like the famous illegal alien votes in California and the people voting multiple times in some states and the famous Illinois cemetery votes and the Dominion machines consistently changing everything to democrap votes and 150,000 new votes showing up at 3 a.m. and mysteriously found mail in ballots and ballot boxes and all of the other fraud from the democraps in recent years.

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Hi, TheOldJalapenoman. You seem to have a habit of utilizing the concept of analogy to shoehorn your social, civic or political concerns onto the forum. Thankfully most participants of the forum aren't willing to do this, so there is no mess to be made of it. I do sort of wonder why you do this, though. I mean, we could possibly be easily drawn off topic by discussing these problems. Regardless, I would recommend you visit a fact-checking website, from time to time, in an attempt to unravel any available truth of the events to which your sentiments pertain. So, the crimes being alleged are plausible, yet there is no publicly-available evidence of the them having been committed whatsoever, not even of circumstantial nature: no witnesses, no informants, no investigations, no indictments, no warrants, no arrests, no reports, no trials, no testimonies, nothing! All the public got was shallow documentary that proved absolutely nothing:

Okay, so the Republican Party has retaken the House of Representatives of the United States. I'm willing to bet that the House, even after the 3rd of January, 2023, won't open any hearings on the matter, just like the Senate of the United States didn't and won't before the 3rd of January, 2023. Granted, it could be argued that civil servants aligned with the Republican Party, on account of the capitol building riot of the 6th of January, 2021, are too embarrassed even attempt to open up an investigation. Just as well, the plausible claim could be made that the riot happened in the first place because of undercover federal law enforcement undertook schemes to entrap and bust people who would otherwise not commit any felonies. (e.g. COINTELPRO, the original Black Panthers, the Ruby Ridge Idaho siege, Jesse Snodgrass, et al.) I get it, and as near as I can tell, nobody of capability is brave enough to truly shine any light on the manner. So, in a way, there is nothing to discuss. The Democratic Party will continue to advocate for voting policies that make it easier for fraud to occur, and the Republican Party will continue to advocate for voting policies that make it harder for active duty military personnel and disabled citizens, of the United States, to vote. Almost as if both parties are full of pre-programmed non-player characters (NPCs). Hm. Sounds like an even deeper conspiracy theory unfortunately. Just food for thought, in the end.

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Lol, I have the impression that we have reached Godwin's law without truly reaching Godwin's law. 

We went from unregistered IMDb users "voting". It is a fact that their vote aren't compiled, not a secret, the notice says so: "Only votes from registered or logged in users count towards the total."

To conspiracy theories involving zombie voters, alien voters, and Hal 9000 manipulating votes. There are possibilities of errors when counting ballots, there are possibilities of errors. In fact, the USA population is so large, for me, it is impossible that there weren't errors. Perhaps there were some marginal and negligible fraud cases, which is plausible. In fact, it is almost certain. But, to say that such fraud could change the result of the election that is a conspiracy theory. As Jeorj Euler said, I believe that democrats had advantages in advocating for methods that increased fraud. In nearly half of the states, you don't need ID to vote (Opinion: It doesn't make any sense).
The thing, however, is that there is no proof of a concerted effort to rig the elections. The biggest issue right now is not knowing if Biden truly won or not (we may never know). The greatest concern is that 40% of Americans believe Biden cheated. In other words, 40% of Americans don't believe in democracy. Not everyone in Canada is happy with Trudeau's win (I'm not), but nobody contests his win (except a certain group of truckers), and yet Canada is not even a republic it is a constitutional monarchy. USA should perhaps return under the rule of the British Crown 😂.

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I should point out that the ways in which the phrase "rigged election" is used leaves a lot of room for the ambiguity of the meaning. Every election has always "rigged" in some way, but usually not via literal manipulation, desecration, fabrication, stuffing or suppression of millions of individual ballots. As a figure of speech, critics have often referred to the fact that only candidates running on the ticket of one of the two major political parties can ever win not only the United States presidential election but usually also United States Senate elections, United States House elections, gubernatorial elections, State legislature elections, so on and so forth as "rigging". The fact that most of the time it is hopeless to run against an incumbent chosen at the district-wide level has been referred to as "rigging". Strategies of Gerrymandering have been referred to as "rigging". Strategies of swaying public opinion (like buying up much advertisement space on social media networks) have been referred to as "rigging". Now, people cannot even say this kind of stuff in certain ways without it being taken literally as baseless accusations of criminal-level rigging (fraud).

What is interesting is nobody even raises concerns about census rigging. In the United States, the distribution of the 435 legislator Seats in the House of Representatives of the United States is based upon census data. All kinds of diabolical schemes could be going on (as many have had gone on in the past), but people only start to cry or investigate when their preferred candidate loses an election, and unsurprisingly they're unprepared to explain the outcome with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, without any omissions of factual data, without any omissions of important questions. I'm just disappointed that nobody who has access to the bully pulpit can articulate any actual new ideas to mitigate the problems that do or may exist. The politicians and journalists just keep defaulting to advocating for the same old ideas that failed to be ratified over the course of multiple decades.

"The thing, however, is that there is no proof of a concerted effort to rig the elections." Not even a memo revealing intent has surfaced. If anything, all the evidence (biased though it may be) that did wind up being uncovered pointed to intent on part of the "MAGA" side to do whatever was necessary to keep Donald Trump in office.

Not as if to make things even more intriguing, I've often wondered about the origins of many conspiracy theory ideas, and all too often there is an uncomfortable difficulty in explaining the origin in such a way as not to be a conspiracy theory. Every new lie, superstition, urban legend, false rumor, fallacious conjecture or self-contradicting hypothesis that is exposed winds up being blamed on somebody or anybody who has a reputation for this kind of stuff, hence why the names/titles of certain agencies of certain governments (even ones that have long collapsed) repeatedly pop up in discussions of the matter. Anyway, the point was that a lot of things in the world don't quite work the way conspiracy theory true-believers (as opposed to conniving obfuscationists) think that they work. Some of this stuff is really complex and cannot be reduced down to bumper sticker scholarship.

I wasn't aware of a group of truckers that disputed the accuracy of the vote leading to Justin Trudeau's re-election. Rather I had only been able to become aware of various protests undertaken by truckers who were or claimed to be disenfranchised by the pandemic quarantine policies enacted by the Canadian federal government. The mainstream media coverage of these protests way very spotty, and I observed some small quantity of folks in the United States complaining about the lack of coverage.

By the way, gaslighting is Merriam-Webster dictionary's word of the year, in 2022. I do wonder in conceivable way something like that could wind up "memory-holed" in the future. Haha.

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Website registration makes the results of the polls valid. Tracking who voted for whom is necessary for a clean system.

To get a handsome number of votes, what you (we) really need is a separate section of polls at IMDb Home Page.

Discussed here:

Please Bring Back Poll Section in IMDb Home Page

IMDb pages are going through some GUI based changes. Once, the process is completed IMDb will start publishing polls at home page like they used to do, as said by Col Needham.

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I am using this post as a throwback to IMDb Home Page polls.

Let's see how many of you remember those moments. I am using my polls' that went to home page, screenshot as examples.

Before July 28, 2015 (the comeback day of IMDb Home Page Polls) the polls were used to feature like this.

First two options' pictures used as display. 

How many of you remember the "Instant Voting" feature. This was a bomb. You could easily get 10k-15k votes in a day. Here you don't need to open the poll page to vote. Just click on the image of the option you want to vote for. Limited to Face-off polls with two options only. Used by the Editors for a very short period of time.
After July 28, 2015 during the initial stages of IMDb Home Page polls this was the GUI setup. The question was at the top followed by the options image and at the beginning first three options' images were used.
Later, this became the common setup and used for a while until IMDb went through some major changes in it's web page design modification.
Title, then first five options' images and then the question. This was the most popular setup and during that period poll authors required to put best and clearly visible images at first five options to increase the chances of polls getting featured.
Ohh, I get nostalgic when I see these old screenshots. I really miss those golden times.