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Why has the keyword "imprisonment" been replaced by "incarceration"?

Yet another of IMDb's seemingly arbitrary and random modifications which leave me confused. What is wrong with the original keyword? It is taxing for prolific keyword contributors like me to keep a track of so many modifications and it is especially inexplicable when so many of these make zero sense.

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Is there a good and valid explanation behind this change or is this just someone's personal whim? Seems to me that too many IMDb keywords are being arbitrarily replaced even though the original keyword is not problematic.

Btw, the keyword "gay-kiss" has not been permanently replaced by "male-male-kiss". Just saying.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Why has the keyword "lesbian-kiss" been replaced by "female-female-kiss"?

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Regarding "gay-kiss," I commented on that as well in the original post:

I also feel like "gay-kiss" could possibly be merged into "male-male-kiss," but one potential uncertainty with that is that the word "gay" is sometimes used to refer to both gay men and lesbians, so it is possible that "gay-kiss" has been used to indicate a "female-female-kiss." I doubt that has happened often, but it is possible. At any rate, I will leave "gay-kiss" alone for now and maybe other contributors will chime in with their thoughts.

Finally, it might be possible to convert the existing keyword "homosexual-kiss" into a new keyword like "same-gender-kiss," but I will also leave that idea alone for now.

Here are some of the keywords I have mentioned in this comment but have not added to the proposal:

gay-kiss (2852 titles)

gay-kissing (29 titles)

gay-kisses (1 title)

male-gay-kissing (4 titles)

homosexual-kiss (101 titles)

All of this is another reminder of just how complicated keywords and keyword rerouting can be.

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They have been merged after a suggestion in this forum, not because there is necessarily anything wrong with the keywords but because they mean the same thing. To keep track of them I would suggest following the forum.

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/duplicate-keywords-list-26-proposals-for-permanent-merger-and-autoconversion-time-travel-kiss-incarceration-prison-jail/62c9c3d276277330cfb84e62

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@Peter_pbn​ Thanks for the reply. I think that they have got it backwards here. Imprisonment is clearly a keyword that is much easier to understand for English speakers all over the world as opposed to the much more technical sounding Incarceration. The former can be understood by everyone in my home country of India but not the latter.

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@Peter_pbn​ Re “imprisonment” vs “incarceration”: In “Oldeuboi”, Dae-su Oh was “kidnapped and imprisoned” but I believe not “incarcerated”.

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@hurdy_gurdy_man​ 

The good news is that because these keywords have now been set up for auto-conversion, you don't really have to keep track of them. That's the whole idea: you can enter the word "imprisonment" and the system will automatically convert it to "incarceration" for you. 

As for why "incarceration" was chosen over "imprisonment," the idea is based in part on this helpful source that I linked to in the post:

What Words We Use — and Avoid — When Covering People and Incarceration