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Removal of duplicate posters for Cheers (1982)

As you can see on the following pages, there are a LOT of duplicated posters listed for Cheers (1982). Given the sheer number, I'd really appreciate it if IMDb would clean up this mess, which, ideally, shouldn't have made it online in the first place.

Also, you might want to contact whoever was responsible for this mess.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=35

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=36

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=37

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=38

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=39

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=40

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=41

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083399/mediaindex?page=42

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Hi @Marco -

I'm revisiting this thread to report that we have made several updates to our image system, thanks to your observations and duplicate image call outs. 

When images are added to episode titles they will no longer be automatically tagged to the Parent-series title page.  We will also work through a clean-up to remove duplicate images tagged to a Parent-series for Posters and Product images.

Thanks again for surfacing the issue!

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I noticed the effect of this after adding an image to an episode and I have to say this doesn't make sense at all.

When images are added to episode titles they will no longer be automatically tagged to the Parent-series title page

Doesn't that make the photo gallery for series pages useless now? I think it does. Images added to episodes do not appear in the photo gallery of the series now and I think this is wrong and would cause more problems.

Now someone needs to browse all episodes one by one to be able to discover images added to a series. And this doesn't look correct and it eliminates the purpose of photo gallery. When someone uploaded an image, they need to go to the episode page after it's uploaded and tag it to main series if they want it to appear in parent series page now I guess? But this doesn't make sense and nobody would do that, why suddenly all of this hassle?

And I think it would cause more duplicate uploads, because people may upload something again after seeing it did not appear in series page and they think something went wrong with upload or it was not approved. (I certainly thought something went wrong with my upload after I uploaded my first image after this change)

I don't think anything was wrong with auto-tagging them to both episode and parent series page. I don't see any good reason for this change other than to allow uploading same poster to all episodes of a series or season. But why allow something that is basically a spamming anyway? Why should the same image or poster uploaded to all episodes anyway? And make a change like this with bad effects that reduces the usefulness of photo gallery for series to allow that?

I had the understanding such duplicate uploads were not allowed, a poster that is generic (for the whole series or a season) should be uploaded once to parent series page, shouldn't be spammed to all episodes, an image should be added to an episode if it's specifically for that episode, that was the norm (which totally made sense), I don't think uploading same image to every episode was the norm, there is even a rule in guidelines in line with that: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/images-videos/image-guidelines/G27LPBQZA7EAZGJW

"Please do not tag series or season posters with individual episodes"

But now, images added to episodes are getting excluded from series pages to allow basically a spamming? I think instead clear warnings should be put to guidelines and image upload forms to say don't do that, and images should be tagged to parent series pages automatically again.

Because I feel this reduces the usefulness of photo galleries for series pages so much.

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I also noticed a bug I think surfaced after this recent change. If an episode does not have any images, it seems primary poster of series is shown in the episode page now, which looks like a good update, and it would probably reduce people who try to upload same poster to every episode, so I liked this change. But there is a bug. If you click on that "placeholder" image, it gives 404 error. See, try here as an example: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18268644/

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@Michelle​ "When images are added to episode titles they will no longer be automatically tagged to the Parent-series title page. "

I think that's the wrong solution. Every image added to an episode should automatically be tagged to the parent-series title page. After all, if an image is an image of a particular episode of a series, it is also automatically an image of that series. The problem in my OP was that there were dozens of duplicated images added to a particular title in the database. That problem isn't solved when people can add duplicated images to particular episodes that don't get tagged to the parent series. Au contraire, it would make it harder to spot the fact that duplicated images have been added because there is no parent-series image gallery to show this in a glance.

I have to admit that I should've seen/realized this after @Col_Needham 's post below.

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Hi @mbmb​ -

Thanks for reporting this new bug.  I have alerted the appropriate team to investigate further and fix.

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@Mitchel​ (and @Marco) Thanks for the feedback, but if an image is appropriate to be included in the gallery for the main series, the main series can be tagged at image submission time -- you just need to click the "+ Add titles" link in the "Related Titles" section.  No need to wait for the image to be approved. 

People commenting here after the change have missed the point on the bug fix, sorry -- previously every episode image upload was silently tagged the parent series. Silently tagged.  Even if the image was a spoiler for the twist-ending of the last ever episode of a show, it would automatically be added to the series gallery.  All we fixed was putting the control of which titles are appropriate back in the control of the contributor at contribution time. 

There are many more cases than just Cheers and just posters where it does not make sense for every image attached to every episode to also appear in the main series gallery (spoilers being a big issue, but not the only one).  We do not do this with, for example, quotes attached at the episode level being mirrored to the series page, so why should images be any different? If there's a use-case for a gallery (or any other content type) from every episode to be easily available via the series page then we should support that in the IMDb software, not by automatically double-tagging everything.  We already do this for cast & crew data because there's a good reason; it sounds like we need a new Idea thread posted here on Sprinklr for the same feature to be available for images? 

Hope this helps. 

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@Col_Needham​ Could it be reversed, so that the option to REMOVE the "main series" tag is there, rather than having to add it each time? A reverse of the default?

This said, I am getting slowly used to it.

Also, is there any way to change the attribute of an image? There's one I uploaded for a series and accidentally clicked "publicity". It's not a big deal, but it shows in a different gallery as a result, it should have been "still image".

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@MovieCat​ 

See "How do I fix the 'type' of an image?" in IMDb Image FAQs

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@Col_Needham​ 

All we fixed was putting the control of which titles are appropriate back in the control of the contributor at contribution time.

Most contributors probably didn't notice that they would have to do anything different.

You could mention the issue in the help files.

We already do this for cast & crew data because there's a good reason; it sounds like we need a new Idea thread posted here on Sprinklr for the same feature to be available for images? 

From a user perspective, this is what existed. That the technical method was different was not strange as they are different types of content, and the concept of tags only exists for images.

We do not do this with, for example, quotes attached at the episode level being mirrored to the series page

You probably should do something like that rather than leave series quotes pages blank.

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3 years ago

Thanks @Marco ... this is not actually the contributor's problem.  It appears to be a bug (or an undocumented feature) of the image upload for episodes.  If someone adds a poster to an episode, the parent TV-series is automatically tagged as an additional title ... this happens behind-the-scenes so the contributor cannot even remove the tag before submitting the image.  I cannot imagine this is deliberate. 

We have opened a ticket with the appropriate team to investigate. 

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@Col_Needham​ Thanks for the swift response and the explanation.

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@Col_Needham​ 

Any image from an episode is also an image from the series, isn't it?

It is practical to be able to go to a series gallery and find all images from the series.

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3 years ago

Hi @Marco -

I'm following up here to confirm that the duplicate poster images you reported have now been removed.

Thanks again for highlighting the issue!

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3 years ago

I was just about to post on this... series not showing a full image listing the past couple of days.

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@Michelle Is there any scheduled fix date for the image issue at all, please?

I've just added a few images to a show that only had its title logo - there are now six images, but the main page show as 1 image.

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@MovieCat​ 

Can't you add the series title tags manually?

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@Peter_pbn​ Probably, but it used to be automatic, and there's over a 100 now. (I'm addicted)

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@MovieCat​ I don't think they see it as an issue (Michelle's "I have alerted the appropriate team to investigate further and fix." response was likely for only the 404 bug, which is fixed now)

Nobody liked this change, even Marco who opened this thread, it would be nice to get a response about it, if they will revert it or not.

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Hi!

Thanks to all 3 for your feedback regarding the change that occurred. We have now shared the comments regarding the recent changes with the appropriate team for visibility. 

Cheers!

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@Bethanny​ Any word on this? I think this is a very bad change and it's because of this thread of mine this policy change was made, so I'd really appreciate it if it'd be changed back.

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@Marco​ As previously mentioned I passed on the comments, but at the moment no change has been decided.

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@Bethanny​ Any word on this? With every day that this policy isn't reverted, the number of photos not attached to a series main page grows, which means the number of duplicated photos in the database very probably grows and the customers of IMDb can't find all the photos IMDb has to offer. I think that the default should be that a photo for an episode of a series is automatically also attached to the main series with the option for the contributor to NOT add it here.

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@Marco​ I agree. Sometimes I have spend time tagging episode images to the main series, a time consumig task that never needed to be done before, and that will forever be insufficient to cover the missing tags caused with this new, not popular and not useful policy.

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@Bethanny @Col_Needham No news? every day that passes more and more images are missing from their series main gallery making it impossible to find all relevant images that you may be looking for, specially in new titles.

It is no practical to search for images of one actor in a series and having to review all episodes to find them.

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@Peter_pbn​ Good to know, however it is sad that all improvements depend on moving to the new design, which I actively dislike :(

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Isekai Ojisan - its gallery is listed as having 48 images, however its recent two episodes are updated with images that do not appear on the main gallery. I am not sure if this is a mistake to fix or not, but perhaps it needs investigating.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15219320/mediaindex

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21304858/mediaindex

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21304860/mediaindex 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Images not being marked on a TV show

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3 years ago

This sounds... odd. 

I can't call it a bad idea. It has the advantage of avoiding spoiler images on the main page by limiting them to the episode gallery. But on the other hand, some images on the episode gallery deserve to be shown on the main page. 

This sounds to me like it still needs sorting out. 

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Until recently, whenever I added an image to a TV episode, it was authomatically tagged to also appear in the TV series main page.

But that is no longer the case and now when you add an image you have to manually also add the TV series tag.

Why was this change made?

I usually forget to do it, and I think many people also will, and therefore, there are many episode images that won't appear in the main TV series page.

Having a place were all images of all episodes are easy to found is great and it's a shame to know that you no longer have the certainty to find everything.

Hopefully things can be reverted in this case.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Image and tv series

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This remains annoying, has it been reviewed?