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Redundant/illogical keywords to be merged with existing correct keywords.
I am offering a few suggestions about merging two or more keywords together to avoid repetition and redundancy and also giving my reasons.
#1. The keywords "bare-breasts" and "breasts" should be merged into simply "breasts" and "bare-breasts" be made entirely redundant. Reason: "Bare" breasts are no different from simply "breasts". What next, should "clothed breasts" or "covered breasts" be submitted as another keyword simply to distinguish them from "bare" breasts? "Breasts" used to be the only keyword since the beginning. The "bare" variation is relatively recent but overgrown everywhere like a garden weed.
#2. The keyword "Man-with-glasses" does not sound good. Should be merged with the much better sounding and grammatically correct "Man-wearing-glasses". Same goes for other related keywords such as "woman/boy/girl with glasses" etc.
#3. The keywords "Railway station", "Railroad station" and "Train station" cause confusion and redundancy among searchers. i suggest they be merged together simply into "Train station" which also brings it close to the keyword "Train" in alphabetical search in a movie's keywords page.
Pleas let me know what you think about these suggestions. Thank you.
#1. The keywords "bare-breasts" and "breasts" should be merged into simply "breasts" and "bare-breasts" be made entirely redundant. Reason: "Bare" breasts are no different from simply "breasts". What next, should "clothed breasts" or "covered breasts" be submitted as another keyword simply to distinguish them from "bare" breasts? "Breasts" used to be the only keyword since the beginning. The "bare" variation is relatively recent but overgrown everywhere like a garden weed.
#2. The keyword "Man-with-glasses" does not sound good. Should be merged with the much better sounding and grammatically correct "Man-wearing-glasses". Same goes for other related keywords such as "woman/boy/girl with glasses" etc.
#3. The keywords "Railway station", "Railroad station" and "Train station" cause confusion and redundancy among searchers. i suggest they be merged together simply into "Train station" which also brings it close to the keyword "Train" in alphabetical search in a movie's keywords page.
Pleas let me know what you think about these suggestions. Thank you.
phil_boroff
133 Messages
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3.5K Points
7 years ago
Any title with a female (or a male, for that matter), could have "breasts" as a keyword. But, "bare-breasts" has been a correlative for "topless-female-nudity" and the opposite of "bare-chested-male." If anything, "breasts" should either be converted to "bare-breasts" (if that is the case,) or eliminated. (I submit a correction every time I come across this.)
"glasses " has always been a problematic keyword, since it can either refer to eyeglasses or drinking glasses. I prefer "man-wears-eyeglasses," "woman/boy/girl-wears-eyeglasses," etc.
Alas, these changes would probable need be made, one-by-one, since I do not believe that IMDb has a method to make such mass conversions. If they do, please let me know, for I have many other similar suggestions, too. (Also, tedious audits, one-by-one, can deter mistakes.)
P.S. "railroad" or "railway" may also refer to a railroad company or railway company. And, "railroad-tracks" or "railway-tracks" should be converted to "train-tracks."
There are hundreds -- indeed, thousands, hundreds of thousands -- of redundant keywords. I work on them a lot, but it is apparently an unending endeavor.
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Marco
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83K Points
7 years ago
Lots of (adult) titles have 'nudity' and 'female-nudity' as a keyword. There's no point in having the not very specific keyword 'nudity' listed if there's also the more specific keyword 'female-nudity' attached. This even gets worse for titles that also have 'female-frontal-nudity' (making 'nudity' as well as 'female-nudity' redundant) or even 'full-frontal-female-nudity' (making 'nudity', 'female-nudity' and 'frontal-female-nudity pointless to keep around). For what it's worth, there are currently 69 titles having those four keywords attached to them, talking about redundancy: https://www.imdb.com/search/title?keywords=nudity,+female-nudity,+female-frontal-nudity,+full-frontal-female-nudity
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keyword_expert
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47K Points
3 years ago
I agree with suggestion #3 (merging "railroad-station" and "railway-station" into "train-station"). I am adding this one to my internal list for future merger proposals.
I disagree with suggestions #1 and #2.
Regarding suggestion #1, a scene could involve one character commenting on another character's breasts while the breasts remain fully clothed, or committing a sexual assault by grabbing another character's breasts (again while they remain fully clothed), without the breasts ever being exposed. These would be situations where the keyword "breasts" would apply, but not the keyword "bare-breasts."
Regarding suggestion #2, both of those keywords were recently merged into "man-wears-glasses." The most common form of these types of keywords is to use the word "wears" rather than "wearing." Unfortunately it was not possible to merge all these keywords into "man-wears-eyeglasses." Although most of the titles with "man-wears-glasses" are probably in fact referring to eyeglasses, some of them could have been referring to sunglasses. Given the inherent vagueness in the word "glasses," the "glasses" keywords could not be merged into the "eyeglasses" keywords.
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keyword_expert
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47K Points
2 years ago
"railway-station" and "railroad-station" have now been merged into "train-station":
railway-station (761 titles) --> railroad-station (67 titles) --> train-station (2041 titles)
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