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"hairy-bush," "limp-penis". Does anyone else find these keywords inappropriate?

"hairy-bush" should be merged into "public-hair," and then barred.  (Unless young and/or shaved, the adult, unshaven "nether regions" are usually "hairy.")

"limp-penis" should be merged into "penis," and then barred.  (According to research, a penis is "limp" the vast majority of the time.  If not, the keyword "erection" seems to cover the territory.)

Oh, my... I'm sure that there are other keywords like these two.

Bring on the counter opinions!

"hairy-vagina," "hairy-labia," "hair-pussy," "hairy crotch," etc.

"flaccid-penis," "erected-penis," "hard-on," etc.

Now, here's where we need some merging.

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Some of these keywords have been on my private list for a future proposal for mass mergers for a while now. 

The majority of instances of these keywords appear on Adult titles. I think they do have a place on IMDb. Sometimes I delete them from non-Adult titles, because keywords are primarily supposed to be plot keywords, and these keywords are rarely important (and are usually completely irrelevant) to the plot when it's a non-Adult title. 

Now for the specifics. I believe keywords like "hairy-bush" and "hairy-vagina" and "hairy-pussy" should be merged into "unshaved-vagina." 

I would not merge "limp-penis" into "penis." They are not duplicate keywords.

Regarding"flaccid-penis,"  I don't think I had seen that one before. That is a duplicate of "limp-penis."

The keyword "erected-penis" is poorly formatted and should be merged into "erect-penis" (along with "hard-on," as you note).

These keywords are only the tip of the iceberg regarding Adult keywords. There are many, many more that just involve human genitalia, let alone all the other keywords describing the time, place, and manner of sex acts. 

Eventually (hopefully soon) I will start including all these keywords in my future public lists.  I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed them.

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Tip of the iceberg, indeed.

Instead of "unshaved-vagina" (which is natural, by the way), a better, more inclusive keyword would be "pubic-hair." (10665 titles, although some might want to get into the ethnic/racial differences, or male vs. female designations.  I guess it's also a question of WHERE pubic hair begins ... and ends.)

"erect penis" (519 titles) shrinks in comparison to the more commonly used "erection" (6315 titles, apparently not considered "completely irrelevant" --  and I don't think any of them are about building construction.)

Yes, these really are just the tip of the...

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@bradley_kent​ 

Sorry, but "hairy-vagina" is not a synonym/duplicate for "pubic-hair."

This clip from Slacker (1990)  proves it. Relevant part at 3:28 on the clip. 

Pubic hair is most definitely a plot point (and therefore a valid keyword) for Slacker. And it is most definitely not a plot point for the vast majority of non-Adult titles where it has been added on IMDb. Yet people persist in adding it anyway. Such is the way of keywords on IMDb. 

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If you see it, it is a valid keyword.  It doesn't need to be taked about to be valid!   Just saw Cronenberg's Crimes of the Future, and "pubic-hair" is certainly a valid keyword for that title.

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Don't forget that the official keyword tips advise contributors that "Keywords should reflect concepts and notable ideas, scenes, or objects and not people" (emphasis added). 

Describing every single thing, object, and body part that happens to show up on the screen during the title ("If you see it . . . .") likely violates the guidelines and would definitely result in way too many extraneous keywords. 

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As I've said before, I view IMDb as an archive and myself as a researcher and librarian and bibliographer.  That said, there can probably never be too many keywords, as long as they are valid and objective and formatted correctly.

Who knows?  Someday, some film graduate student may want to do his/her PhD dissertation on the actual appearances of pubic hair in the cinema, and IMDb could be a good source for investigating that topic.

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3 years ago

Hi @bradley_kent & @keyword_expert -

Since I see there are still some things to decide on which ones to merge and other things, @keyword_expert can post the full list they are working on here for more opinions, or might as well do a different post and tag @bradley_kent to participate in the decision. Once the full list is ready tag me and I will be glad to do the merging/auto-conversion.

Thanks to both for all the work on this!

Cheers!

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3 years ago

From personal experience and observation, "limp-penis" is the usual situation.  Unless suffering from "satyriasis" (a valid keyword), shouldn't the "limp-penis" keyword  just be corrected to "penis" and then "limp-penis" should be blocked as a keyword? Also, do you prefer "erection" or "erect-penis" as a keyword? (No puns intended, or are they?)

I am anticipating and awaiting the counter arguments and suggestions.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Something to brighten your December 1st: Is "limp-penis" a necessary keyword?

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I bring this issue up again because there was been no resolution.

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@bradley_kent​ Hi!

I brought it back to the original post.

I was under the impression the keyword is actually valid.

We were just pending to decide which keywords had to be merged.

Not sure why the post was closed but I have reopened so we can talk about it here.

Cheers!