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Thursday, October 20th, 2022 2:07 PM

IMDb Name Page Redesign

IMDb Name Page Redesign

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We are excited to announce the launch of IMDb’s redesigned Name pages! These pages are meant to make your IMDb experience easier and more enjoyable by providing better access to photos and videos, an upgraded view of an individual’s credits, and improved mobile navigation making it easier to view IMDb features on the go. These enhancements reflect changes suggested by IMDb customers, as well as our own in-depth research designed to enhance entertainment content, discovery, and navigation. More information is available in the FAQ on the help page.

We hope you enjoy these latest improvements, and thank you for continuing to make IMDb the world’s most trusted source for movie, TV, and entertainment content.

— The IMDb Team

 

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1 year ago

None of these responses tell how to get back to the original good view.  Please help!

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Well, the good view is gone now. It may pop up a few more times before it is never ever seen again, but the "all credits" view and "full credits" view will have to suffice hereafter.

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@judy_harris_735zygdk69yteYou might find our update from last week helpful, particularly the point around the “All credits” view -> https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb

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1 year ago

Whoever decided to lower case everyone's job title on IMDb with the new page design should be fired.


As someone who works in the film industry, not only does this look completely wrong, but it just feels so unprofessional for a website that is displaying credits of people who work in the film and TV industries.

I've used IMDb for 20+ years.  Please change this.  The design is nice, but let's make sure everything is titled appropriately and as per modern day grammatical sense when referring to people's job titles.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Who the hell decided to lower case everyone's job titles on IMDb?

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Actually it makes perfect sense and is grammatically correct for the English language. Why would anyone think that occupations should be capitalized? Also, it should guarantee standardization across IMDb, though that isn't always the case.

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Whoever decided to lower case everyone's job title on IMDb with the new page design

Was there any basis for this claim?  The capitalization of job titles looks to me the same as before, i.e. inconsistent.

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1 year ago

@Col_Needham , the previous version is user friendly and flawless in terms of printing name pages...the images and thumbnails were downsized, not excessive, all the credits, 5 User Lists, some Related News links, Known For, etc., all able to fit within an acceptable amount of pages, not overblown images, which can take an entire page for just a photo...here's an example, printing on the new version, shows the current name and the last clicked page, the other 4 clicked page images aren't viewable, but those 2 images are an entire page, again, just those two images...taking up an entire page isn't justified.

Since printing name pages is critical for our team, I'm willing to pay an extra $50.00 for Pro per year, for access to the previous version, which again was extremely printer friendly.

I would hope that IMDb/Amazon wouldn't turn down money that a user is willing to send your way.

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That's not the way IMDbPro works.

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1 year ago

Absolutely terrible change. Seriously, who thought this was a good idea?

This new layout is objectively poorer in every conceivable way. 

All IMDb needs to do is look at the feedback from real users on this post, which shows overwhelming dislike.

No doubt the project managers and higher-ups will brush off the near-universal criticism of this awful and needless redesign, and convince themselves that they're investing in the future of the brand or some such nonsense.

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@rayrayrayray​ Thanks for the feedback ...

All IMDb needs to do is look at the feedback from real users on this post

This is as expected -- it takes time to appreciate any change. We covered this is more detail in our update last week at https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb  and across this thread.  The new design tests better across a larger number of customer use cases, and all of the success criteria have been met or exceeded.   You may find the "All credits" view better suits your needs. 

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@Col_Needham​ This is as expected -- it takes time to appreciate any change.

Yeah, about that... That's what you said last time you destroyed the layout too. I was whining way more that time, but eventually quit since it was as effective as talking to a brick wall. For my part, I never appreciated the previous design of the name page either. It was slightly less annoying than the current design, in that the page after loading actually had a little bit of useful credit information at the bottom of the screen, without having to scroll, whereas the new design has absolutely nothing other than a bloated picture, video and some useless bio-text on the opening screen, and all useful information buried far far down, and requiring a multitude of clicks to expand to full effect. The latter wasn't any better in the previous design either, I NEVER got used to having to click on any profession in order to expand that section, and that the page never remembered the expansion and place on the page when going back to the page through browser navigation (back). I don't expect I'll ever come to appreciate the current design either, even if I stop complaining about it. However, it can be mended, perhaps even fixed altogether, if you implement the various suggestions I've given in previous posts.

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1 year ago

why does it take three full pages to get to the list of credits with this design? in what possible way could that be an improvement to the site? who wants a featured gallery to be the first thing under the person's info banner? and if a link to their photos page is in that banner, why is the sidescrolling images section also before the credits?

filmography is still directly below the video preview & bio section on the app, so why make the website different?

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1 year ago

Reason: If you need just plain written information, this is the page setting of choice. Plus, searching for a work the person was involved in, you might be unsure if the work in question was a TV movie, a movie, or an episode of a series. Having all entries in sight allows you to use your browser's search function to find the work in question.

To get all those information you quite tediously first have to select the page,  wait until it is complete (incl. all sorts of pictures and movies included), scroll til the three-lines-pictoram under the headline "Credits", click it, and click "View all credits" in the pop-up window that appears.

It would be a great help to get the desired information immediately.

Kind regards

Wieland Samolak

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled "View all credits" at a person's page should be selectable as a default in the member's Account setting

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@samolak​ Thanks for the feedback. 

As explained earlier in this thread, the "All credits" page is not suitable as a landing page because the page only contains the credits and nothing else, sorry.  There's an unofficial browser script which achieves something closer to what you are seeking also on this thread

To get all those information you quite tediously first have to select the page,  wait until it is complete (incl. all sorts of pictures and movies included), scroll til the three-lines-pictoram under the headline "Credits", click it, and click "View all

credits" in the pop-up window that appears.

There's a faster way which should not require any scrolling -- the "All Credits" view can be accessed from the "All topics" menu in the top right of the name pages,  please see the screengrab in https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb

Hope this helps. 

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Well if you don't think all credits works as a landing page the creator pages should have an equivalent to the reference pages. Those are by far the best designed pages on the website, the only ones without massive amounts of bloated, obnoxious graphics. If you want to do a good redesign, I suggest you use that layout for everything.

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@brianspike42​ There’s an unofficial browser script which can achieve this for you elsewhere on this thread

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1 year ago

Option in settings to switch to old format please?

Sorry, but this "improvement" is just...not. It's clunky, unintuitive, and not at all user friendly. No one wants to read a whole other page on "how to use" your site. Formerly you could see everything at a glance, or with a bit of scrolling if the credits list was long. You even have to search for the bio link now.

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1 year ago

hi,

i discovered the last redesign of the "Name page". After the sad new design of the title page, it is -again" a desappointment, another one. i really don't understand what coder-designer have in their head.

Did they visit imdb website on 8k huge monitor with super mouse roll wheel and a healhy thumb finger to scroll all the day ?

look at the old design :

https://postimg.cc/JsKMzKvL

look at the new one (sorry for the bad collage, i'm so angry i lost my patience to merge the screenshot)

https://postimg.cc/H8QzpL00

now, to see a regular topic (see what the red arrow is pointing to), i have to scroll down more & more....

what it take 3 screen before,  now tooks more than 4 screens !

do i need to  buy a bigger screen  ?do i need to buy a tablet with big screen to visit imdb ?

no ! Look at all the white spaces in the new deisgn ! what a very bad  art-UX-design  work  we have here now ! very bad work !

You can even see some bad scrollbar in several DIV element !

I wish to adress you my "best regards", but i'm very desappointed. in 30y of website visits, i saw all the longtime website falling back one by one due to bad redesign.  There is only ONE (one in 30years) who successed to the redesign ( discogs ) .

I would like to express my sincere condolences to all visitors that have been condamned to see imsb pages died one by one....

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled the new Name Page Redesign is a problem : too many scroll, less information

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1 year ago

This function war abandoned during the second last redesign of imdb.com.

An example for its benefits: Open the page of Taika Waititi. Scroll down until the entry "Boy" of 2010 appears. Now, most likely several movies with the title "Boy" will have been produced in 2010. And indeed, changing the page to "All credits" ("Credits (text only)") changes the movie's production year to "2010/I", meaning that this is the first (or most important or whatever) of several movies called "Boy" produced in 2010. (Question: Why is this most important information hidden when the page is not in "Credits (text only)" mode?)

Clicking on "Boy" leads you the the movie's page where it is named as just "Boy (2010)". Before the second last redesign of imdb.com the title was "Boy (2010-I)". Without this most vital information you'll never learn that there were several movies of that title in that year and which of those movies is the one in question.

I can only pray that you will re-esablish this, as said before, most vital detail in any mode of any page of anybody who was involved in that movie and, most important, on the movie's page as well.

Kind regards,

Wieland Samolak

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Roman letters at the end of a movie's year of production should be re-established.

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1 year ago

What can we do to have our old and preferred version back again? Just look at the comments, and how many users are saying they agree with those who are angry and disgusted that these changes have been made. And, to try to explain the changes and finish with ‘hope this helps’ is infuriating and patronising. We don’t want explanations. We want this decision to ruin IMDb reversed!  

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled We want the old version back!

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1 year ago

So, got an email (which references a post I'm unable to find) from this Sprinkler thread we're commenting on and another user said, "I am going to stop using IMDB and either use Wikipedia, or one of the open source alternatives"

Just thought I'd check, what other alternatives are there? I know about Letterboxd and TMDb (The Movie Database). Are there any other alternatives? I'll admit, having used IMDb since 2001, inertia keeps me here. Both the options I mention have not attracted my interest due to their emphasis on graphics over text, but I might be interested in something else in addition to Wikipedia if it wasn't all images and video. (Yeah, I know I'm swimming against the current.)

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I'm not aware of too many genuine worldwide-focused alternatives to IMDb, but there are two maybe three derivative websites serving very vaguely as mirrors of IMDb. (They have different designs from IMDb, but a vast majority of their data comes from IMDb.) One example is MovieChat, which I only use to view a rough archive of the retired IMDb message boards and subsequent posts to those boards or messages.

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I don't know of any general purpose ones, but Anime News Network is my go to website for that. Its anime coverage is more comprehensive than imdb, and its layout has minimal graphics.

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1 year ago

Many people have included in their posts here that few are praising the new page design. I hope not to generate a lot of comments with what I'm about to say. (Let me first admit that I use an ad blocker, so my experience is more streamlined as a result.)

I just discovered a new feature that I like a lot. When filtering the person's credits, the Project Type grouping works for any job category. So now I can look at choreography (Miscellaneous) credits by TV vs Movie. Here's an example (Miriam Nelson).

Granted, that can also be done with the filmosearch feature, but not as easily, and the job title is not displayed with each project. That matters because choreographer is lumped into Miscellaneous Crew, which also includes Stage Director and other jobs a choreographer might have held.

Also, the filmosearch version includes both TV series and TV episodes separately, which has always bothered me, especially when the person was on a later episode of a long-running show, and their filmosearch credits list the series long before the episode when sorting by release date. (filmosearch also inflates their credit count because of the series inclusion.) BTW, I know that I can filter out the series credits altogether, but sometimes a person is only listed at the series level.

And in filmosearch, each type of TV title is a separate category, so you don't just click once for TV. Miriam has 5 TV categories.

Other things I like about the new design:

+ being able to add a person to my lists directly from the Name page.

+ the Expand Category links at both the top and bottom of the list of credits, which saves time loading the credits when you think ahead

+  the information icon on each title, which provides a lot of info, potentially saving me a trip to the title page. We can even add the title to a list from the pop-up!

+ the fact that most links can be opened in a New Tab.

+ being able to filter credits by genre on the Name page

Sure, there are things I don't like, and I've posted about most of them already. But for me, the new features far outweigh them. Here are most of my negatives, including some new ones that I hadn't reported yet:

- that I have to click 3 different spots (deselect the 3 pre-chosen categories) to get all the credits in the new format (I know about the All Credits view)

- that I have to scroll within the filter pop-up to access the link for View All Credits; I've suggested it belongs at the top

- that I have to click an arrow to scroll through the person's categories (on the same line as the filter button); I preferred the old-view listing all the categories at once

- that the year and info icon is so far to the right of the title, although it's good that the years are all lined up. But why not put them (and the (i)) as the first thing on the line, esp. since they're a fixed length.

- the separation of the "popular" links in the All Topics menu above the categorized ones. (Don't like it on the title page either.) My eye goes directly to the columns of choices.

- would be nice to have a jump-link at the top of the Name page to go directly to the Credits section

- that the Seen feature isn't in the All Topics menu

- I'm forgetting at least one other item that I've posted about here.

Enough for now.

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Yes, there are a few awesome features. For this reason, I've only really complained about the JavaScript bloat present in the new platform as shared by both IMDb title pages and IMDb name pages, in the default view, likewise how the "all topics" menu isn't pre-loaded when the page is visited. The way "known for" looks now is such a painful waste of space (as it is supposed to look like a row of contiguous posters), but that can probably be fixed with a bookmarklet or monkey script. I've not really bothered to reflect on and complement for the cool new features, as they don't really matter than much.

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1 year ago

Why ruin the good thing you used to have? The new format is terrible.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled new format

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1 year ago

I just created an account on this community site so I can tell you to give us an option for the old IMDB site because this one is horrible

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@zvona2222You might find our update from last week helpful, particularly the point around the “All credits” view -> https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb

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@Col_Needham​ Thanks but I'm discontented with the option to every time I visit IMDB have to click on All Topics>All Credits

So if you don't bring it back unfortunately I won't use IMDB anymore to check on actors and directors, I'll go now in pursuit of another site ( luckily if there is any other than this )

I commented on this with friends and most of them are dissatisfied

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1 year ago

Your new layout is shockingly bad.  Pages don't load, directors pages are missing and and keeps saying 'problem, try again later'

I need imdb for my job on a daily basis.  Sort this out by going back to the old one layout.  Truly awful.  

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Page layout

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@Rake1204​ 

Pages don't load, directors pages are missing and and keeps saying 'problem, try again later'

Sorry to hear this.  Please can you provide some examples of directors pages which you describe as “missing” and details of what you mean.  Also the same for pages which do not load?  

You might find our update from last week helpful, particularly the point around the “All credits” view -> https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb

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I'm sorry but the new layout is not good or interesting and frankly, awkward to navigate.  There was nothing wrong with the old version.  

For example...

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@Rake1204

 There was nothing wrong with the old version.

This is IMDB we are talking about! They will take a perfectly good user interface and change it (for the worse) because they can, and then they will get really excited about it as if it is an improvement - Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.


They claim to have canvassed the opinions of a lot of people and taken those opinions into account when developing the new Name page. Yet when they produced a beta version and we commented on it (saying what we didn't like) they seemed to ignore the opinions. Perhaps they are only interested in comments that are in favour of their changes, and are ignoring everything else.

OK, so people who like the new pages will be less motivated to comment - that's to be expected. But if even a sizable minority of people comment "I hate it. How do I go back to the old version?" then there is something seriously wrong. If I was a developer who had worked on it, I would be embarrassed to think that I'd produced a "turkey" that (some) people thought was worse than before.

OK, they've given us the Text View of credits. That's good - I'm very grateful for it. It makes Name pages actually usable. One improvement I'd like: put the same side menu of links to bio, other works etc that the original Name page had, and you'll have gone back to the user-interface that we had before. I admit that I am baffled about why the Text View is acceptable but the original name page (which looks very similar) wasn't. Has the Text View code been re-written to be more maintainable? If so, why couldn't the same code have been used to generate exactly the same layout as we had before - as an option for those who want it?

And what is the objection to making the Text View a user-selectable default (like Reference View for titles?) for those who want it? I'm not forcing everyone to see the old layout - all I ask is that those people who want it can access it (complete with its side menu of links) with the minimum of button-clicking and fuss.

I am also concerned that IMDB may start to redesign the layout of all its other pages as time goes on - that this is only the beginning of further reduction in usability and naff layout that looks good on a mobile phone for casual browsing but which is dumbed-down, cut into bite-size chunks, and generally worsened as a serious research/contribution tool.

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@martin_695862​ wrote: I am also concerned that IMDB may start to redesign the layout of all its other pages as time goes on - that this is only the beginning of further reduction in usability and naff layout that looks good on a mobile phone for casual browsing but which is dumbed-down, cut into bite-size chunks, and generally worsened as a serious research/contribution tool.

Yeah, this is kind of my fear going forward as well.

But one thing I learned from this debacle is, next time I see a beta preview offered, I'll have to put in some effort to check it out and provide feedback instead of just ignoring it like I've done countless times on countless websites, most I don't use at any rate like IMDb. There have been a few others who've mentioned ignoring the beta preview -- and I honestly only have a vague recollection of that and don't remember how it was introduced to users or how it asked for user input/feedback. But I've also learned over the years that management has an agenda which it tasks the design team to implement. Designers also have goals and no one wants to be the website that's not moving in the general direction of the rest of Internet. Not sure I know of a website that puts user wants/needs foremost in the design process, so it almost always feels like, "It's not broke, so we're fixing it because we can."

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Discerning IMDb's last generation software platform from the IMDb's new software platform isn't too difficult. Thus far, any page besides a base IMDb name page, a base IMDb title page, the IMDb home page or certain IMDb search results pages is basically generated on the older system.

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@xianjiro​ Exactly.  I'd bet people who (like me), tried the beta, hated it, and went back to the option of the old page, never had a reason to complain until the change was forced upon them.  That means the communication back to the designers had a small percentage of heavy critics, if any.  So if that's the public group the designers used to assure approval, it wasn't a very good way of polling.  Hopefully they will read through some of the comments here and rethink.  Until then, when I look up a name and want to see if that name is in a specific movie or show, now I need to scroll down, find the "See all" button, click it, wait, and then do ctrl-F in chrome to find the show I'm interested in.  Instead of just ctrl-F.  Then if I want to see the episode details... oh, don't start me on that programming fiasco.  Sure, the new initial page load saves bandwidth because it doesn't load the entire list.  But the only reason bandwidth became a problem was because they added unneeded pictures to each line.  What is it about people who see a pretty interface saying, "I really like it", even when usability is compromised?

And please don't respond to this with the repeated, "All Credits" post.  It's not the same thing.  Not anywhere near the same thing.

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@xianjiro 

@martin_695862​ wrote: I am also concerned that IMDB may start to redesign the layout of all its other pages as time goes on - that this is only the beginning of further reduction in usability and naff layout that looks good on a mobile phone for casual browsing but which is dumbed-down, cut into bite-size chunks, and generally worsened as a serious research/contribution tool.

Yeah, this is kind of my fear going forward as well.

Unfortunately, this is not just a fear, but reality:

When will other pages switch to the new technology and new design?

Currently, home/where-to-watch/photos/videos/title are already modernized on IMDb. We plan to modernize subpages next and eventually the rest of the site.

Source: https://help.imdb.com/article/issues/GMWASETVPLJYXEZE

Discussion of the impending changes: https://twitter.com/skogesT/status/1598954885461921792

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For the most part, public outcry is not really a thing in regards to website redesigns. A few times before on this thread, the YouTube redesign of autumn 2022 has been mentioned, and while hundreds of millions of people noticed the design, only something like several dozen people have taken a little bit of time to post public opinions about it. Reddit is probably the only website in recent history that had website maintainers respond in an acquiescing manner to visitors' complaints. (In other words, the old Reddit layout exists but it is hidden.) Granted, YouTube has always been very gradual about its redesign processes, casual visitors won't even notice changes. IMDb unfortunately has seen numerous jarring changes since 2017, but even so, the various features (apart from the site-native message boards) forgone had a very tiny fan base, which sort of implies underutilization anyway.

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@jeorj_euler​ as well as the massive loss of enjoyment of this site which the catastrophic removal of the message boards caused, I also miss "Where Are They Now?", alternative names, and character pages.

The character pages were a wonderful idea, being able to instantly look at somebody like Sherlock Holmes, and see all the people who had played him, photographs, quotes, and wiki bios.  Crazy that a movie site has no way to study characters actually.  Not to mention all the work which people put into them which was instantly lost.

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@Rake1204​ 

Using the collaboration search for titles, I infer that the page of your  snapshot is for

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000759/

and I don't have a problem viewing his credits.

What OS/browser are you using?

Mine is Windows 11 and Chrome 108 or Firefox 107.