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IMDb Name Page BETA OPT-IN

IMDb Name Page BETA OPT-IN

English | Français | Deutsch | हिन्दी | Italiano | Português | Español

 

Before launching IMDb’s redesigned Name Pages (coming soon!), we want to provide our valued users with a sneak peak, and extend an opportunity to provide feedback between July 22, 2002 and early August 2022.

We hope you enjoy these latest improvements, and thank you for continuing to make IMDb the world’s most trusted source for movie, TV, and entertainment content.

Thanks as always for all of your feedback – please feel free to post your questions or comments to this thread.

— The IMDb Website Team

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112 Points

2 years ago

As long as I have the choice, I will stick with the old design!

Two-column style for the credits is a horror to look at and the main cause for visiting this site, quick access to a lot of information, clearly vanishes with this redesign, loads of the previously available information is now hidden behind a ``More v'' button in an annoying popup that would have to be visited for each and every entry. In addition, the list needs to be extended again and again after every 30 entries. At least a real list style (as opposed to this ``gallery view'') similar to the old design should be selectable!

While having thumbnails (and thumbnails larger than in the old design of the full cast and crew pages) is nice, these are too large, even in the two column design too much scrolling becomes necessary. It is probably a bad idea to have thumbnails looking like DVD covers with an aspect ratio of about 9:16, thumbnails that look like single pictures from a movie with an aspect ratio around 16:9 (in a single column layout) might be better. Actually, these thumbnails are inconsistent with the new style pages for titles, where actor thumbnails are circles (which is a very bad choice!).

In the German language version ``Credits'' is translated as ``Gutschriften'' which is nonsense (it refers to bank accounts and such, when money is deposited). Actually, even as a native speaker I do not know a German word for this, ``opening/closing credits'' would be ``Vorspann/Abspann'', and for actors ``Auftritte'' might be a reasonable headline, but that does not apply to e.g. directors. Then again, many German translations on old style pages are similarly bad, this should not be left to some automatic translation, but a native speaker should be consulted.

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@hoehlengnarf​ Thanks for taking the time to comment. The “30 more” is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 30 is too small.

Thanks for the problem report on the translations; these are not automated, but it sounds like the people who provided the translations are not as fluent as they should be, sorry. 

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758 Points

2 years ago

Hi,

short question. How can I switch back to the old pages?

I'm looking for episodes of series, an actor playes in. The new pages are completely unusuable for that.

Luna

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled new actor's pages

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@lunamond91​ Thanks for the feedback.  You can opt-out the same way you opted in … you should still see a little timer / clock icon in the lower right of the page.  If you click on the icon, there’s a “Go Back” link in the menu which pops-up. 

However, episode details are still available on the new pages — click the character name to display them.  For example, from https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428065/

Hope this helps. 

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Hi Col, thanks for answering. I already found the episode lists. But I'm using the actor's pages quite much for private statistics. Up to 500 times per day. Can you imagine how much additional time it will cost if all the credits including episodes are not on the same page anymore and you need additional clicks? And how much longer it takes to find a credit if you first have to click on texts like 30 more for every actor? I can only hope both views stay available.

But thanks for helping me switching to the old view again.

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@lunamond91​  Thanks for the feedback on the initial number of episodes shown. The batch size of 50 is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many episodes to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 50 is too small. 

Already on the pre-launch list is a “Show All” for all credits, we will take your comment above as another  request to include episode details here too (as above in https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-beta-optin/62db09f1e232bb632089ba01?commentId=62db45511b2f176c00111327&replyId=62db4844c998636027ac9835). 

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Hi Col,

sorry but I think this was a misunderstanding. The new pages are too blown-up. For my work I need the compact but detailed old version. Without any additional click and without searching for texts between pictures, which I'm not interested in at all.

Another nice example if I want to know date of birth and place of birth of an actor, I saw it in the first view, now I have to scroll, scroll and scroll down to the personal information.

BUt if you're talking about a show all option. Will there be the option in the site preferences to always show them all, so you don't need to click on show all on every single page you visit?

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@lunamond91​  Thanks for the feedback, which we have captured as you intended.  Thanks for comments on birth locations (birth & death dates are actually more visible in the new design, but not the locations). 

The “Show All” is currently not planned to be sticky (or a preference), however, your comment here is another vote in favour of making it so. 

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@Col_Needham​ And I'd like to add my vote for "Show all" to be sticky as a per-user config setting. And do it as a setting that is saved at your server, not as a cookie that may be deleted from the user's browser cache.

I'm baffled that you didn't envisage making the value "sticky" right from the outset - we shouldn't be having to vote for it: it should be done by default, like any option that controls how the data is displayed.

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@martin_695862​  Thanks for the comment in support of a preference.  

As to why this was not added by default, this is part of why we are doing this beta test. The problem is that every preference we add complicates the experience and often slows down future feature development.  We have to be sure each preference adds enough value to customers to justify the cost of the added complexity. 

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@Col_Needham​ 😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬

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@lunamond91​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

https://chng.it/xtprF89H

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66 Points

2 years ago

My feedback:

TL;DR: EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING IS WRONG! STOP IT!

95% of all my visits to IMDB are for going through the list of cast/crew for a production or which production an actor/other person was in.

In other words:

- for an actor I want the Filmography to be top. In easily browsed text format, in reverse chronological order.

- for a movie, I want the "Full Cast & Crew" list at the top. In text format. In some order of importance.

Don't make me jump through hoops looking for it!

And for every list, I of course want all of it. I am not casually browsing just for fun: I'm looking for specific information. Cutting the list off and putting a "More .." link is bad user interface design: that UI pattern might have a place somewhere, but that place is not here!

Show/Hide arrows are good for brevity. Having both an an arrow and the text "Show" is good for usability.

Of the other 5% of my visits to the site, I'm looking mostly for:

- actor/movie trivia/goofs/quotes, etc ...

- actor's age (e.g. "Was Roger Moore to old for Tanya Roberts in A View to a Kill?")

- movie release date in different regions

I visit this site for its easily available information, not for its design, "vibe", or whatever..

Very few people are. They practically don't exist. So don't design for people who don't exist!

The current version of /title/ is already poorer for having the "Top cast >" link, which makes it more difficult to use it.

Please don't destroy this site any further!

/ Johan

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@Johan_132​  Thanks for the detailed feedback, which has been logged for the team.  The pages are a work-in-progress, and as now noted elsewhere in this thread, we are experimenting with how many credits to show and the support for “show all” options.

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100% agree with this. When I visit IMDb, I'm looking for a list of actors appearing in a specific production, or a list of productions a specific actor has appeared in, or rarely actors' ages (for exactly the reason mentioned above) or birthplaces (what's that accent?) or movie release dates. Exactly as the above poster said, I’m looking for information, not idly browsing for random listicles and pretty pictures.

I frequently refer to IMDb on my phone while watching movies (at home, of course!) and always switch to the desktop site, because the mobile site so determinedly hides any and all information in an endless labyrinth of sub-pages and expanding lists, further obscured with giant image cards and giant "top cast" and "most known for" summary lists that are never useful to me. This new look seems to be taking everything that's wrong with the mobile site, doubling it, and applying it to the desktop view. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

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@Johan_132​ "And for every list, I of course want all of it. I am not casually browsing just for fun: I'm looking for specific information. Cutting the list off and putting a "More .." link is bad user interface design: that UI pattern might have a place somewhere, but that place is not here!"

I fully agree with this. Contributors do not want "More..." links or buttons to expand sections. They want "Just the facts, ma'am". Contributors and serious researchers are a very different breed from casual users of IMDB. They have different needs which must be catered for by user-selectable sticky options. As with so many things in modern computing, IMDB is trying to force a low-tech "display-rich, content poor" format on everyone, instead of keeping configurable options for how things are displayed.

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@martin_695862​ 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝

I use it ALL OF THE TIME for information, keeping track of what I have watched, etc etc etc.....b days, even heights of actors!!! lolol

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@Johan_132​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

https://chng.it/xtprF89H

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@Col_Needham​ having a show all option should never be thought of as optional. When redesigning websites or software that previously showed all entries, reducing the number of displayed items and not having a show all button is nothing less than an insult to the user. If this new design stands as is without a show all button I, for one, will find another website to use. 

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@trystane​ Thanks for the feedback.  It was never our intention to launch without a “Show all” button — this is a work-in-progress beta to get early feedback on other features on the page. 

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@martin_695862​ This casual user also prefers the simple and complete interface!  

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60 Points

2 years ago

The Filmography was useful as a list, new format with pics and details good as an option but please retain the list too

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758 Points

@osmodb​ so true, compact and detailed lists like the old ones are so much better to get information. Please keep the filmographies too

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@osmodbThanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment here. 

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@Col_Needham​ Tried it...HATED it!!!

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@Coreena​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

https://chng.it/xtprF89H

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148 Points

2 years ago

Please have opt in / opt out as a personal user option, the new name page is counter productive, too many pics, too much needless info without requesting it, confusing and distracting and takes longer to scroll / access / find what I'm looking for.

The simpler old option is neater and easier to use.

But I understand some people may like the new look so a user setting for each member would be the way to go.

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@Thunderwing13​  Thanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment here. 

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1K Points

2 years ago

I am really sorry, but if there is a possibility of a no vote then I am afraid I vote no. With due respect to IMDB. As a busy contributor, I find this new design to be way, way, way, too 'involved' or too 'busy'. Too many clicks are required to access too many popups to see information pertinent to a contributors requirements. As a contributor, time is a very expensive commodity. A contributor needs easily readable, scrolled lists, by department, of work done by the person (as is currently the case), in order to determine the correct person for adding or correcting credits. Pretty picture laden pages, that take time to load, and have multitudes of links to get to required information, are not going to assist in contributing. I understand that things need to be fresh and relevant to the average person who is simply viewing the information, for interests sake or for fun, and I get that change is a given. My suggestion, request, hope, or wish, (as has been voiced by so many below) is that if this new page is going to be published, perhaps there could be a button link for IMDB contributors that defaults to the original list style to help us maintain our standards of accuracy and efficient use of time. I contribute because I enjoy it, and have always enjoyed a sterling relationship with the IMDB assistance team, but I feel that the bottlenecks to information access built into the new page will negatively affect contributors, and may even lead to contributor losses, due to time expenditure versus contributions achieved. My apologies to anyone who may take offence, but I do believe an honest opinion is better than none.

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2 years ago

Having just read every post, so far, on this subject, I have to say that it seems to me that the majority sentiment appears to be, that while a very few things are nice, the majority feel that it is going to be counter productive to the contributors, UNLESS there is the ability to access the ORIGINAL pages. I for one would be very, very, disappointed to see IMDB loose contributors, with the resultant slowing of growth of contributions and information, just because a poor upgrade has been forced into the system. I would also like to point out an "apparent" but could "possibly" be a purely "circumstantial" link, to the fact that the submissions glitch has come back, seemingly coinciding with or caused by this new page design, just as the last submissions glitch appears to have had a link with the Main Page upgrades that were instituted last year or 2020.

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@raynor_pretorius​  Thanks for your feedback from a contributor perspective. 

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112 Points

2 years ago

It is annoying to click on "30more" and more...to see entire list with movies for a certain actor. I am using Ctrl+F to search in Chrome browser and before was great to see entire list when enter actor page. Please fix that problem.

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@john_v_6190329Thanks for the feedback.  The “30 more” is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 30 is too small. 

Related, a one-click “Show All” for all sections simultaneously is also on the list. 

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118 Points

Respectfully, the "Show All" should be the default, and "Show Less" (or, more correctly, "Fewer") should have the button. 

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114 Points

2 years ago

I clicked on the "Preview the new imdb" but I don't like it. How do i get the old version back?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled New IMDB page preview

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@DavisdmYou can opt-out the same way you opted in … you should still see a little timer / clock icon in the lower right of the page.  If you click on the icon, there’s a “Go Back” link in the menu which pops-up. 

Hope this helps. 

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@Col_Needham​ Thank you! That worked.

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@Col_Needham​ No, certainly not "the same way". If it was that easy, people wouldn't be coming here in droves asking for a way to get rid of the frelling "new interface".

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66 Points

2 years ago

Thanks a lot for your hard work & efforts to enhance the browsing experience of our greatly beloved IMDB. Although the new look seems much more neat & eye catching, I prefer the old one. In my opinion, the old look of the site actually extremely much easier to use, has more fields & data and finally it's much easier to find the desired data & information.

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@sgallab​ Thanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment.

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366 Points

2 years ago

I don't like it at all. The old version makes it easy to find any information I might want - I just have to load the appropriate page and ctrl+f for the title. The new version is so much harder to use, for a number of reasons. Firstly, the "Known For" list looks exactly like the full list, which means that I spent a bunch of time hunting around the Known For movies for the button that would let me see the whole list before I realized it was below. Secondly, the full list features my very least favorite web design trend: making each item on the list pointlessly larger on my screen, and solving the problem of increased length by making me scroll, click, and load multiple times to see the full list. This makes something as simple as finding out what character an actor played in a certain movie into a massive pain. I can't imagine a situation in which I'd want to see only the 30 most recent movies an actor appeared in, and I don't see why seeing the posters for dozens of movies I might not be interested in is worth the inconvenience.

My suggestion is to do what Reddit did - make the new design the default, and allow people to see the old version by going to old.imdb.com or something. Then everyone would be happy.

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@Madeleine_Dougherty​  Thanks for the feedback, especially the point on the “Known For” credits.  This is a preview release and therefore a work-in-progress. The amount of data shown is a temporary situation.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.

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2 years ago

Hate the new look. I don’t want a poster for every credit and to also hit a show more button. When it’s listed how it is now you can scroll and easily see all credits aslso how many episodes and stuff. The new look makes it harder and more work to work out stuff. 

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@ShoodThanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment.

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2 years ago

I'm sorry to join the majority but I hate it.

I fail to see the point of this "redesign" that comes on the heels of another ugly redesign.

It seems to be rather inconvenient to turn what is essentially a database of filmographies into a movie theatre poster area.

Not to mention how counter-intuitive it is, as a designer, to add more useless data in the form of posters to replace simple titles, just to have to hide 98% of the credits in the list to minimize your bandwidth usage...

How about leaving it the way it is so we can browse for the info we are seeking on IMDB, then read it?

As an example, I was simply looking for the names of the episodes of Westworld, a writer had been credited for. 

On the regular IMDB page, I just had to scroll down once past a portrait, limited bio info and the previously introduced and pointless "known for" summary for dummies, to find a list, and after a quick glance at the first few lines, get my replies in this form:

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With the new format, I scroll down to get to the credits... 
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Ooops nope, I only get the last two credits now so I have to scroll down some more to get to the third, which is the one I'm interested in
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Do I get the information I am interested in there? Nope. I can only see there are 3 episodes and since I'm after the titles, I have to click once more to get this pop-in
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... and still not the info I'm after so I scratch my head for a couple of seconds and find I have to click again on "See 3 episodes" to finally get another pop-in
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Whew. Two scrolls and 3 clicks later...
I shudder to think what would happen if the show in question was 10 years old or if there were more than 3 episodes and how many more times I would need to click to pop-in, expand, expand and pop-in to get the very basic information I obtained in one scroll, zero click and a quick look before.
And this is just a regular example of my daily activity on IMDB. I didn't look for anything hard or specific.
I'm not sure why anyone working professionally in web design would need any random user to tell them this is not viable but there you have it.
If you were to go ahead with this new design, I guess I'll just have to go tvdb for a quick look instead.

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@carla_tibs​ Thanks for the feedback and the examples. 

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@carla_tibs​ YES!!!!! LOVE your post here. You took that time.

You must be on a computer like me....if you read Col_Needham's response it says they are gearing everything toward mobile users and cutting us computer users off at the knee.  It's discrimination and I'm sick of it.
This is what he said:
"The new name pages are also available when accessing IMDb via a web browser on your mobile.  This is one of the advantages of the new technology — it’s the same page, with the same content on both desktop and mobile web.  The page scales to fit whatever size device you use to access it.  This already happens with our main title pages too, following the update there last year. "
SEE!!!!!  They will support mobile users not computer users!!!!

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@Col_Needham​ YES...it is VERY good examples.....STOP discriminating against us computer users and just supporting mobile users....

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@carla_tibs​ Your comment definitively proves the case as to why this new design for names pages is completely unworkable. Thank you for having the patience and communication skills to show that. 

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2 years ago

Hey Team,

First of all, I would like to say thanks for rolling out an opt-in version of the new pages before enforcing it on (as opposed to the Comixology rollout).

While I understand the need to update the design (the old view had unnecessary padding on both the sides which I agree is a waste of space), the new design do have some room for improvement.

While I know some of the comments has been received by the team (ESPECIALLY the "Show 30" button), I agree with another fellow user that the new view does involve a lot of scrolling as compared to the old view (especially due to the thumbnails). So, while a single column view would not solve the issue (unless we change the aspect ratio of the thumbnails, which I'm not sure would look good), it would be great if there is an option to quickly go back to top of the page and/or navigate between different section of the pages with a floating button or something.

I wish for a "return to the top" button because if I'm a user at the bottom of the page, and I wish to search for another person, I need to scroll all the way back up (it can be a lot if the user has expanded all section). A better and easier implementation would be that when the user scroll down, the section 

the IMDB Top Bar and the name section would remain at the top ("Freeze Rows in Excel) and the rest of the content would scroll below. This would solve the navigation problem as well since the sections is also present in the same line as the Name. Hope that makes sense.

P.S.- Sorry about the really long sentences and/or for any formatting/spelling mistakes. Typing on a mobile.

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May I know if this change is for Desktop Web Only or will it roll out for Browsers on Mobile as well? Thanks in advance!

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@TheCatlan​  Thanks for the comments and the suggestions which have been passed to the software development team. 

The new name pages are also available when accessing IMDb via a web browser on your mobile.  This is one of the advantages of the new technology — it’s the same page, with the same content on both desktop and mobile web.  The page scales to fit whatever size device you use to access it.  This already happens with our main title pages too, following the update there last year. 

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@Col_Needham​ THS IS HORRIBLE!!!! Everything is now geared toward "mobile" users...us "computer" users are throw out in the waste.  I do not even own a mobile device...everything I do is on computer & I'm sick at being discriminated against for it.
I also think that the people that design the websites and game developers NEVER use the page nor play the game....it's all about how "creative" they can be and "flex" their brain muscle...and go..."LOOK AT ME"...I can do this...I'm great!!!

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@Col_Needham​ 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

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@Col_Needham​ Thanks for confirming.

One observation while viewing the same page on mobile in Desktop View is that the view reverts to a single column list with a lot of white space on the right. I guess the page scales according to the width of the device. I believe most users would prefer something similar to this if the plan is to still go ahead with thumbnails. @martin_695862 has a screenshot in his comment detailing the same.

Again, if thumbnails is the way how the team wishes to go, may I recommend looking at the "Top 250 Movie List" for reference how to visualize it. The page has movie poster thumbnails, but still it's the text which "pops-up" and catches a user's eye. The page is still easier to quickly skim through as compared to the new view.

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2 years ago

@Col_Needham​ 😀

? ?

Add a banner ad top of all the 11,746,200 Name Pages 

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1000000/

Many of the 154,950,000 Users may not see the floating timer / clock button on the page

or know why it's there 🙄

IMDb Name Page BETA OPT-IN
For a limited time, take a sneak peek at 
the new, in-progress version of this page.
Ends early August 2022!
See the New version

Back to the Old Version
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