IMDb Name Page BETA OPT-IN

@hoehlengnarf​ Thanks for taking the time to comment. The “30 more” is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 30 is too small.

Thanks for the problem report on the translations; these are not automated, but it sounds like the people who provided the translations are not as fluent as they should be, sorry. 

@lunamond91​ Thanks for the feedback.  You can opt-out the same way you opted in … you should still see a little timer / clock icon in the lower right of the page.  If you click on the icon, there’s a “Go Back” link in the menu which pops-up. 

However, episode details are still available on the new pages — click the character name to display them.  For example, from https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0428065/

Hope this helps. 

Hi Col, thanks for answering. I already found the episode lists. But I'm using the actor's pages quite much for private statistics. Up to 500 times per day. Can you imagine how much additional time it will cost if all the credits including episodes are not on the same page anymore and you need additional clicks? And how much longer it takes to find a credit if you first have to click on texts like 30 more for every actor? I can only hope both views stay available.

But thanks for helping me switching to the old view again.

@lunamond91​  Thanks for the feedback on the initial number of episodes shown. The batch size of 50 is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many episodes to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 50 is too small. 

Already on the pre-launch list is a “Show All” for all credits, we will take your comment above as another  request to include episode details here too (as above in https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-beta-optin/62db09f1e232bb632089ba01?commentId=62db45511b2f176c00111327&replyId=62db4844c998636027ac9835). 

Hi Col,

sorry but I think this was a misunderstanding. The new pages are too blown-up. For my work I need the compact but detailed old version. Without any additional click and without searching for texts between pictures, which I'm not interested in at all.

Another nice example if I want to know date of birth and place of birth of an actor, I saw it in the first view, now I have to scroll, scroll and scroll down to the personal information.

BUt if you're talking about a show all option. Will there be the option in the site preferences to always show them all, so you don't need to click on show all on every single page you visit?

@lunamond91​  Thanks for the feedback, which we have captured as you intended.  Thanks for comments on birth locations (birth & death dates are actually more visible in the new design, but not the locations). 

The “Show All” is currently not planned to be sticky (or a preference), however, your comment here is another vote in favour of making it so. 

@Col_Needham​ And I'd like to add my vote for "Show all" to be sticky as a per-user config setting. And do it as a setting that is saved at your server, not as a cookie that may be deleted from the user's browser cache.

I'm baffled that you didn't envisage making the value "sticky" right from the outset - we shouldn't be having to vote for it: it should be done by default, like any option that controls how the data is displayed.

@martin_695862​  Thanks for the comment in support of a preference.  

As to why this was not added by default, this is part of why we are doing this beta test. The problem is that every preference we add complicates the experience and often slows down future feature development.  We have to be sure each preference adds enough value to customers to justify the cost of the added complexity. 

@Col_Needham​ 😡😡🤬🤬😡😡🤬🤬

@lunamond91​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

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@Johan_132​  Thanks for the detailed feedback, which has been logged for the team.  The pages are a work-in-progress, and as now noted elsewhere in this thread, we are experimenting with how many credits to show and the support for “show all” options.

100% agree with this. When I visit IMDb, I'm looking for a list of actors appearing in a specific production, or a list of productions a specific actor has appeared in, or rarely actors' ages (for exactly the reason mentioned above) or birthplaces (what's that accent?) or movie release dates. Exactly as the above poster said, I’m looking for information, not idly browsing for random listicles and pretty pictures.

I frequently refer to IMDb on my phone while watching movies (at home, of course!) and always switch to the desktop site, because the mobile site so determinedly hides any and all information in an endless labyrinth of sub-pages and expanding lists, further obscured with giant image cards and giant "top cast" and "most known for" summary lists that are never useful to me. This new look seems to be taking everything that's wrong with the mobile site, doubling it, and applying it to the desktop view. Wrong, wrong, wrong!

@Johan_132​ "And for every list, I of course want all of it. I am not casually browsing just for fun: I'm looking for specific information. Cutting the list off and putting a "More .." link is bad user interface design: that UI pattern might have a place somewhere, but that place is not here!"

I fully agree with this. Contributors do not want "More..." links or buttons to expand sections. They want "Just the facts, ma'am". Contributors and serious researchers are a very different breed from casual users of IMDB. They have different needs which must be catered for by user-selectable sticky options. As with so many things in modern computing, IMDB is trying to force a low-tech "display-rich, content poor" format on everyone, instead of keeping configurable options for how things are displayed.

@martin_695862​ 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝

I use it ALL OF THE TIME for information, keeping track of what I have watched, etc etc etc.....b days, even heights of actors!!! lolol

@Johan_132​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

https://chng.it/xtprF89H

@Col_Needham​ having a show all option should never be thought of as optional. When redesigning websites or software that previously showed all entries, reducing the number of displayed items and not having a show all button is nothing less than an insult to the user. If this new design stands as is without a show all button I, for one, will find another website to use. 

@trystane​ Thanks for the feedback.  It was never our intention to launch without a “Show all” button — this is a work-in-progress beta to get early feedback on other features on the page. 

@martin_695862​ This casual user also prefers the simple and complete interface!  

@osmodb​ so true, compact and detailed lists like the old ones are so much better to get information. Please keep the filmographies too

@osmodb​ Thanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment here. 

@Col_Needham​ Tried it...HATED it!!!

@Coreena​ 

I've started a petition for the New Amazon look to stop its changes to IMDB.

 Please help up get enough signatures to stop these changes.

https://chng.it/xtprF89H

@raynor_pretorius​  Thanks for your feedback from a contributor perspective. 

@john_v_6190329​ Thanks for the feedback.  The “30 more” is a temporary experimental situation while we are still working on the pages.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.  Thanks for confirming that 30 is too small. 

Related, a one-click “Show All” for all sections simultaneously is also on the list. 

Respectfully, the "Show All" should be the default, and "Show Less" (or, more correctly, "Fewer") should have the button. 

@Davisdm​ You can opt-out the same way you opted in … you should still see a little timer / clock icon in the lower right of the page.  If you click on the icon, there’s a “Go Back” link in the menu which pops-up. 

Hope this helps. 

@Col_Needham​ Thank you! That worked.

@Col_Needham​ No, certainly not "the same way". If it was that easy, people wouldn't be coming here in droves asking for a way to get rid of the frelling "new interface".

@sgallab​ Thanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment.

@Madeleine_Dougherty​  Thanks for the feedback, especially the point on the “Known For” credits.  This is a preview release and therefore a work-in-progress. The amount of data shown is a temporary situation.  We are aiming to strike the right balance between how many credits to load initially and when to have a “Show all” option to display the rest.

@Shood​ Thanks for taking the time to try the beta and to comment.

@carla_tibs​ Thanks for the feedback and the examples. 

@carla_tibs​ YES!!!!! LOVE your post here. You took that time.

You must be on a computer like me....if you read Col_Needham's response it says they are gearing everything toward mobile users and cutting us computer users off at the knee.  It's discrimination and I'm sick of it.
This is what he said:
"The new name pages are also available when accessing IMDb via a web browser on your mobile.  This is one of the advantages of the new technology — it’s the same page, with the same content on both desktop and mobile web.  The page scales to fit whatever size device you use to access it.  This already happens with our main title pages too, following the update there last year. "
SEE!!!!!  They will support mobile users not computer users!!!!

@Col_Needham​ YES...it is VERY good examples.....STOP discriminating against us computer users and just supporting mobile users....

@carla_tibs​ Your comment definitively proves the case as to why this new design for names pages is completely unworkable. Thank you for having the patience and communication skills to show that. 

May I know if this change is for Desktop Web Only or will it roll out for Browsers on Mobile as well? Thanks in advance!

@TheCatlan​  Thanks for the comments and the suggestions which have been passed to the software development team. 

The new name pages are also available when accessing IMDb via a web browser on your mobile.  This is one of the advantages of the new technology — it’s the same page, with the same content on both desktop and mobile web.  The page scales to fit whatever size device you use to access it.  This already happens with our main title pages too, following the update there last year. 

@Col_Needham​ THS IS HORRIBLE!!!! Everything is now geared toward "mobile" users...us "computer" users are throw out in the waste.  I do not even own a mobile device...everything I do is on computer & I'm sick at being discriminated against for it.
I also think that the people that design the websites and game developers NEVER use the page nor play the game....it's all about how "creative" they can be and "flex" their brain muscle...and go..."LOOK AT ME"...I can do this...I'm great!!!

@Col_Needham​ 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

@Col_Needham​ Thanks for confirming.

One observation while viewing the same page on mobile in Desktop View is that the view reverts to a single column list with a lot of white space on the right. I guess the page scales according to the width of the device. I believe most users would prefer something similar to this if the plan is to still go ahead with thumbnails. @martin_695862 has a screenshot in his comment detailing the same.

Again, if thumbnails is the way how the team wishes to go, may I recommend looking at the "Top 250 Movie List" for reference how to visualize it. The page has movie poster thumbnails, but still it's the text which "pops-up" and catches a user's eye. The page is still easier to quickly skim through as compared to the new view.

@ACT_1​ Using this link I could see the timer and go back, thank you!

@ACT_1​ forget all that. STOP THE NEW PAGE LOOK! It is terrible, just terrible.