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Wednesday, November 8th, 2023 7:49 PM

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Bookmarking Artist Profiles In Browser

I brought up this issue once before and it was quickly fixed. I see the same issue has resurfaced. I tried to find my previous post on this matter, but no luck.

When bookmarking artist profiles in my browser (Firefox) I find that it is impossible to detect duplicate bookmarks (or display 'Edit Bookmark') because the latter portion of the bookmark does not always stay the same. I will provide an example (the most recent profile I chose to bookmark):

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2773059/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

The basic URL is sufficient to bookmark the page, thus:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2773059/

but the latter part is being included again:

?ref_=tt_cl_t1

thus resulting in duplicate bookmarks not being detected by the browser.


Can we please go back to the 'repaired' method so that bookmarked pages only record the basic URL?

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11 months ago

Hello @PatrickD,

Thank you for reporting this issue. I've forwarded this information to the appropriate team for further investigation. I'll reply once we receive further information.

Thank you for your patience.

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Thanks!

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Jon, the IMDb developers could use the the "replaceState" method of the "history" object in JavaScript, in order to mitigate this long-lived problem without abandoning altogether the use of the "ref" parameter found in IMDb's intrasite hyperlinks. For some reason, I hadn't thought about suggesting this as a solution until now.

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10 months ago

Hi @PatrickD -

Our tech team reviewed this request and confirmed that browsers choose to model these URLs, and unfortunately, this is not something we can control the behavior of.

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Interestingly, the last time I reported this, it was able to be changed. Also interestingly, if I go into Bookmarks and modify the URL (strip the extraneous part out) the link still works and takes me to the particular IMDB page.
Consider this: Why would a browser record a URL in such a manner that duplicates will not be detected? It appears then, I assume, that IMDB does not present the same URL each time, allowing multiple bookmarks for the same page. I understand that this is some kind of intra-site tracking info, so I fail to see how 'the browser is creating these URLs' is a valid explanation. In my understanding, this appears to be what you are saying.

Did anyone consider the suggestion offered in the comments by:

jeorj_euler's profile

jeorj_euler

It made sense to me.

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What is this nonsense of which you write, Michelle? I know that Col couldn't've tell you that. LOL...

Why does the "ref" parameter even exist? Why are there so many possible values for it on every single IMDb page? IMDb could get rid of it in any of several ways. I'm going to ask Owen and hope that he is allowed to disclose.

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@jeorj_euler​ 😀

??

The "?ref_=" tells IMDb where the page was found
if not directly - from another page

Sprinklr members leave this attached when posting a link here
This is then clicked on by another member.
and IMDb thinks that it was found .....
and causes problem with their stats

counting sources for pages links

I always trim my IMDb links here

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I know, ACT_1, and it tells more than that actually, because the origin URL can be gathered from the "referer" HTTP header, but not any information about which particular actual hyperlink was clicked on a given Web page. I just don't know why this information is needed by the IMDb Web server software. You've analyzed the parameter values before, so you know that they account for billing order of name hyperlinks clicked as well as filmography order of title hyperlinks clicked. We still don't know what need there is for this stuff, so to guests and customers, it just makes it harder to tell which hyperlinks were accessed previously, because unvisited hyperlinks show up in a blue color whereas visited ones show up in a magenta color. I actually use a monkey script to automatically remove the "ref" parameter from all hyperlinks, because of the problem posed. If I recall correctly, you've speculated before that it might have something to do with helping the IMDb software balance MOVIEmeter, STARmeter and COMPANYmeter values.

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10 months ago

Hi @PatrickD & All -

Thanks for your additional comments.  I have reopened the ticket with our tech team to inquire further on the issue and review the discussions posted on this thread.  Once I hear back I will post any updates/details here.

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9 months ago

Hi @PatrickD & All -

I'm circling back to confirm that we have evaluated the suggested technical approach, but are unable to make changes to this functionality at this time.  This is because the the 'ref' params within the URLs are used for critical analysis and core navigational functionality, and any changes would have extensive impacts to the website.  Although our team is not able to prioritize this in the foreseeable future, we have documented the request as a known improvement for consideration as part of any future investment in the ref paramer logic.