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Why is the keyword "child-in-peril" changed to "child-in-jeopardy"?

It was good keyword. Why fix something that is not broken in the first place? "Child in jeopardy" makes it sound like a child participating in the game show.

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Child in jeopardy doesn't sound anything like child on jeopardy which would indicate the game show. Keywords are being consolidated so that they are more useful. Having separate keywords that mean pretty much the exact same thing isn't useful to anyone.

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Child in jeopardy doesn't sound anything like child on jeopardy which would indicate the game show.


It can if one does not read it properly. It is but a short leap from one to another.

Anyway, If we want to consolidate, at least use a word as common as "danger". "Jeopardy" and "peril" are both less commonplace words than "danger". Replacing one with another is a lateral move, not a solution.

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I don't believe this change came about from any of my duplicate keyword lists. (My lists almost always result in old keywords being blocked, and "child-in-peril" is not blocked.)

With that said, I did include "girl-in-peril" in my list #15:

girl-in-peril (72 titles) --> girl-in-jeopardy (69 titles)

A little over a year ago, on February 19, 2021, "child-in-peril" was assigned to 1,175 titles.

I added both "child-in-peril" and "girl-in-jeopardy" to a title as recently as the 6th of February of 2022 (just a few weeks ago).

All of this leads me to conclude that a fellow contributor manually changed all instances of "child-in-peril" to "child-in-jeopardy" at some point over the past year, and is meticulously modifying this keyword as it comes in.

The only contributor I know of who would be willing to spend the time doing all those manual edits (rather than asking for a mass change from IMDb staff) is @bradley_kent. Or it could be someone using bots or an automated script to check and update the keywords.

Although it would have been preferable for this change to have resulted from a community discussion and a mass merger and auto-conversion set up by IMDb staff (in order to make the change efficiently and permanent), I do support the change.

Overall, the "jeopardy" versions of these keywords are much more common on IMDb than the "peril" versions (although that perceived trend could have been the result of manipulation/manual editing by one or a small number of contributors who have edited the keyword over the years, like we used to see with the "cigarette" keyword). 

child-in-jeopardy (1830 titles)

woman-in-jeopardy (1337 titles)

girl-in-jeopardy (140 titles)

boy-in-jeopardy (61 titles)

teenage-girl-in-jeopardy (15 titles)

pregnant-woman-in-jeopardy (45 titles)

man-in-jeopardy (11 titles)

baby-in-jeopardy (11 titles)

family-in-jeopardy (14 titles)

humanity-in-jeopardy (8 titles)

teenager-in-jeopardy (12 titles)

boy-in-peril (34 titles)

woman-in-peril (10 titles)

baby-in-peril (6 titles)

child-in-peril (2 titles)

teenager-in-peril (113 titles)

teen-in-peril (2 titles)

humanity-in-peril (74 titles)

female-in-peril (10 titles)

family-in-peril (7 titles)

babysitter-in-peril (247 titles)

Given the ostensible relative popularity of the "jeopardy" versions, I am fine with keeping those as the preferred versions. 

There is one important exception: "babysitter-in-peril" should absolutely remain "babysitter-in-peril." That phrase, "babysitter in peril," is literally a subgenre of movies. Just search "babysitter in peril" movie versus "babysitter in jeopardy" movie on Google and this will be readily apparent.

By the way, there is also the keyword "child-in-danger":

child-in-danger (5 titles)

Finally, a similar question was asked by @bradley_kent in a post on this board four years ago, and the consensus was that "woman-in-jeopardy" was preferred over "woman-in-peril" and "woman-in-danger." It appears that ever since then, somebody (probably Mr. Kent) has been manually editing the "woman-in-peril" and "woman-in-danger" keywords and changing them to "woman-in-jeopardy." (This seems to be a very inefficient and non-permanent way of doing things, especially given that one could simply ask IMDb staff for a mass merger and auto-conversion. Manual edits that need to be repeated each time a popular keyword pops up again are pretty much the definition of a Sisyphean task. But to each his or her own, I suppose.)

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