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Unknown Episodes Sunset Beach

All of a sudden all the uncredited cast members in the cast list for Sunset Beach are listed to have appeared in unknown episodes. Previously they have have been listed after how many episodes they appeared in and in which year but now that information is gone. Why is that and is there any way to get it back? When you enter the cast members profile you can see which episodes he/she appeared in.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118484/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

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I don't follow why you provided the link to an episode's cast list.

Your complaint seems to be at the series level.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118484/fullcredits/

I have the feeling IMDb has "improved" the display so that it doesn't say 0 episodes when there _are_ episodes. They only _count_ the episodes where the actor is _credited_ and appears anew (not via archive footage; I'm not sure about credit-only). 

The most recent version in the Wayback Machine, from July 2020, does not use the "unknown episodes" label:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200713143713if_/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118484/fullcredits

In that version, you see this:

Is it really better to jump from 3 episodes to 96? In a list that seems otherwise to be sorted by number of episodes?

Related threads:

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/looking-for-the-right-numbers/600c824a25d22228934a1422

https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/episode-count-too-high/5f4a7c958815453dba0b23b7

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I think the archived version you screengrabbed was much better as it doesn't use the untrue "unknown episodes" and it has whitespace before the uncredited cast members to indicate that the sorting is different.

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The episodes are not unknown.

The number of episodes is 0 (credited), but not 0 (uncredited), hence they chose "unknown".

It's not a very good adjective here, especially since "unknown" is also used to describe episodes in Unknown seasons.

Your post shows 96 episodes for David Andriole.

My post shows the July archive of the page where he's listed with 96 episodes.

"Unknown" is an unfortunate choice of word.

Someone other than a techie needs to find a label for 0 but not 0.

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@bderoes Sorry. Wrong link in the start. I have corrected that now.

To answer your question. Yes. It's better to jump from 3 episodes to 96 since it's two different categories. One for credited cast and one for uncredited. To claim the episodes are unknown is not true.

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@Karen_P There are closing credits but they only list the main cast. All guest cast members were uncredited which means that there are lots of guest cast members that are not on the cast list.

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Those one were credited. For the first 139 episodes both in beginning and the end and from 140-755 only in the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI4AswnrAxA

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5 years ago

Hi andreas_palmstr_m -

 

I have reviewed the reported display issue, as I'm not certain if this was an intentional display change or a bug, I have alerted our technical team to review the credit listings.

 

As soon as I have an update I will post the information here.

 

Cheers!