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Tue, Jul 19, 2022 10:58 AM

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Submissions attempting to change character names repeatedly declined

Yet another problem with constant rejections. This time, I'm trying to fix some characters names. In one instance a character's last name is misspelled in the credits of a particular episode. In the others, I'm trying to provide the full first and last name of the character as opposed to only one or the other. All of the submissions have evidence whether it be an article where the full name of the character is listed or a screenshot from the show proving the information I'm providing is correct. All have been rejected about 5 times and counting now. Obviously the editors aren't even checking any of the evidence that's provided. This type of thing is happening more and more. There are other shows I'm interested in doing this with too but I assume I'll keep running into the same issue.

Submission numbers:

220714-175310-208000

220714-175721-247000

220714-180007-909000

220714-180516-386000

220714-180557-094000

220714-180610-981000

220714-180630-253000

Bethanny

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2 m ago

Hi NPLxo-

 

In this case even though the character names are correct, we like to reflect credits as they show on-screen, so for some submissions checked, I can see you added the last name, for example, but on the end credits it shows with no last name reason why the change was not accepted. If you see the character names we have listed are wrong in comparison to the end credits, then please submit the correction with a screenshot or picture of the end credits.

 

Thanks!!

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@Bethanny​ What you're saying doesn't even apply to 6/7 of the submissions listed here. So that's NOT why they've been rejected repeatedly. There's 3 shows in question here. All the Queen's Men, Queer as Folk (2022), and Love, Victor. In the cases of Queer as Folk and Love, Victor the actors are credited with their names only. That's the only thing you see on screen. The names of the characters I'm attempting to edit are NOT shown alongside the actors' names in the credits at either the beginning or end of the episode. This is common for a television series by the way. With the main cast of a series often times the only thing you will see in the credits are the actors' names. Character names may be shown for actors with a more minor role in a particular episode but that's it.

In the case of All the Queen's Men, yes that actress is actually credited with her character's name at the end of the episodes. And the last name of the character isn't shown there. However, that's a bit more complicated since that actress plays a character with a secret identity and IMDB's rules on that are inconsistent. In IMDB's help section it says secret identities of characters should never be revealed in the credits section yet IMDB employees have said on here what's on screen should always be listed identically even if it reveals spoilers. Well either the last name should be removed entirely or it should be corrected. It certainly shouldn't be left misspelled. I can go and remove the last name entirely but considering all of these rejections and the fact that the evidence isn't even being looked at I doubt that edit will go through either. So you aren't helping with any of these even though what you're saying doesn't apply in almost all of these cases?

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Hi NPLxo-

 

So if the character name doesn't show on the end credits than we can list it with the full name which you are telling me is the case for all but "All the Queen's Men" correct? If that is the case I will resubmit on your behalf, so you don't have to and approve. Regarding the spoilers on the character name, if a name is a spoiler we don't list it, our policy says "We make occasional exceptions when character names are not listed on-screen or when the character descriptions in the end titles include spoilers"  so if you see a character name being a spoiler please report it as such, so we can delete it.

 

Cheers!

 

 

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@Bethanny​ Yes, that is correct. All of the character names I'm trying to change for Queer as Folk and Love, Victor are never shown in the credits on screen. With the All the Queen's Men character, she is initially introduced as Shemika. Halfway through the season the character's true identity is revealed to be Lola Wilmont. So the actress is credited as Shemika in the first two episodes she's in and then as Lola/Shemika in all the rest after that twist is revealed. So all of those credits should just say Shemika then if we're to avoid spoilers entirely. I would appreciate you helping me get these changes through because I doubt I'll be able to get these edits approved on my end. Thank you!

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Regarding the spoilers on the character name, if a name is a spoiler we don't list it, our policy says "We make occasional exceptions when character names are not listed on-screen or when the character descriptions in the end titles include spoilers" so if you see a character name being a spoiler please report it as such, so we can delete it.

Recently a request in line with that was rejected here: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/spoiler-on-jamie-campbell-bower-page/629399e7117340245e71eb80

But I see spoiler character name is removed from that episode page now (which is good) although it was rejected in the thread.

But I noticed someone added Voldemort here after a while: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0241527/fullcredits/ (maybe because someone did it because request for Stranger Things was rejected and Harry Potter example was also mentioned in that thread)

It's in the guides as an example that it shouldn't be added: https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC74FVYKKFMD

Ian Hart plays Professor Quirrell in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, but you're not supposed to know he's also Voldemort.

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@mbmb​ That's exactly the thread I saw which made me reference that a different employee said something contradictory regarding this issue. Although I figure what's in the guidelines should always be the gold standard, in this case that's what makes the most sense to do.

@Bethanny Any update on this? It sounded like you were going to submit these changes for me but since last week there has been no action taken and you never responded.

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@NPLxo​ Hi!!

Yes I was just waiting for your confirmation and I missed it somehow, I am glad you tagged me back. For All the Queen's Men I left it only as Shemika to avoid the spoiler. For the other 2 titles since they don't show on the end credits I resubmitted and approved your original submissions.

Cheers!

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@Bethanny Thank you so much for your help!

mbmb

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@Bethanny​ Can you revert that recent Voldemort change as well?

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Hi @mbmb​ -

I have now removed the spoiler character name, the change should be live on the site shortly.

Cheers!