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Should these keywords be banned?

I believe these keywords should be permabanned. Does anyone disagree?

Before you answer, please click the links to get a sense of how these keywords have been applied to titles.

available-on-dvd (222 titles)

available-in-dvd (16 titles)

available-for-viewing (106 titles)

available-for-viewing-worldwide (17 titles)

character (329 titles)

characters (131 titles)

not-on-blu-ray (27 titles)

not-on-dvd (27 titles)

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3 years ago

Agree since as you say, keywords should refer to the plot.

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3 years ago

Hi All  -

These reported keywords have now been removed.  The changes should be live on the site shortly.

Thanks for all your comments!

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3 years ago

If maintained properly, I think the "not-on" keywords could be useful. I still have a few laserdiscs for stuff that were never issued on DVD.

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@adrian Those "not-on" keywords have not been maintained, though. Many of the instances where the keywords have been used are no longer accurate. And who would be responsible for maintaining them, anyhow? That is part of the problem with those keywords -- they have unknown expiration dates. 

Another issue with the "not-on" keywords is it is rarely a good idea to frame a keyword starting in the negative. These keywords remind me of the "no-abnormal-relationship" keywords. And where would it end? Could there also be keywords like "not-on-vhs," "not-on-netflix," "not-a-streamed-movie," etc.?

Finally, the "not-on" keywords have nothing to do with each title's plot.  Keywords are primarily intended to be "plot keywords." There are of course many exceptions to that rule, but a non-plot keyword should be pretty good in order to be justified as an exception. In that sense, these keywords remind me of the dumb keyword "film-released-during-covid-19," a keyword that will not age particularly well. 

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3 years ago

@keyword_expert 

off topic ??

Did not want to start something new

Looking for recently added Titles for another thread

found this one 
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15225000/keywords 😜

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3 years ago

I agree that none of the keywords cited in the original post should be allowed.

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3 years ago

What does the community think about this keyword?

no-lgbt-character (97 titles)

I think I could argue both sides of the pros and cons of this keyword. 

On the one hand, keywords should not be defined based on things that are not in the title. This reminds me of the really bad (now purged) keyword "no-abnormal-relationship." If keywords like that are allowed, where would we draw the line? Would we allow keywords like "no-product-placement," "no-cigarette-smoking," "no-sex-scene," "no-violence," "no-nudity," "no-female-character," "no-male-character," "no-transgender-character," "no-black-character," "no-white-character," "no-teenage-character," "no-elderly-character," "no-mentally-ill-character," "no-disabled-character," etc.? If those keywords are allowed, it is not difficult to imagine scenarios where they would overwhelm the keyword section of a title. 

These types of keywords are also confusing at first glance, because when quickly scanning a title's keywords, one might mistake a "no" keyword for the opposite of what the keyword actually signifies. In other words, "no-lgbt-character" might be interpreted as "lgbt-character" at first glance. These keywords add unnecessary confusion.

On the other hand, there may be reasons why people might want to search for and compile lists of movies and shows without any LGBT characters. (Admittedly, that would be most movies and shows.)

Also, a user might prefer to avoid such movies, and the keyword helps them know that a movie or show lacks any LGBT characters.

Finally, the existence of the "no-lgbt-character" keyword by itself is not really hurting anybody, and the slippery slope I've described above has not yet been exploited. 

My overall preference would probably be to ban the "no-lgbt-character" keyword, but at this time I don't believe it's urgent to do so.