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Should these genre keywords be banned?
One of the few rules about keywords is that genre keywords are not allowed. (Sub-genres are allowed.) The keywords listed below are de facto genre keywords that probably should be banned.
But it would also make sense to first "audit" these keywords as best as possible. For example, for some of the titles, the "reality-television" keyword could likely be changed to "reality-tv-as-subject." To provide another example, I have personally edited dozens of instances of the "noir" keyword; I usually change it to "neo-noir."
✅ "action" keywords:
action-movie (5 titles)
action-film (1 title)
action-films (2 titles)
✅ "adult" keywords:
adult-film (17 titles)
adult-movie (8 titles)
adults-only (17 titles)
✅ "adventure" keywords:
adventures (120 titles)
✅ "animation" keywords:
animated-film (19 titles)
animated-movie (9 titles)
animation-film (3 titles)
animation-movie (1 title)
animated-tv-show (3 titles)
✅"biography" keywords:
biographical (176 titles)
biograph (65 titles)
bio (10 titles)
biopic (153 titles)
bio-pic (4 titles)
life-story (27 titles)
lifestory (5 titles)
✅ "comedy" keywords:
comedy-film (10 titles)
comedy-movie (5 titles)
commedia (34 titles) (Italian)
comedia (46 titles) (Spanish, Portuguese)
comedie (1 title) (French)
comedic (13 titles)
✅ "crime" keywords:
crime (9 titles)
crime-movie (25 titles)
crime-show (6 titles)
✅ "documentary" keywords:
documentary-film (1100 titles)
documentary (1 title)
documentary-films (1 title)
film-documentary (10 titles)
film-document (40 titles)
documentaries (14 titles)
documental (13 titles) (Spanish)
documentaire (3 titles) (French)
dokumentation (12 titles) (German
✅ "drama" keywords:
drama-film (11 titles)
dramas (42 titles)
✅ "family" keywords:
family-movie (10 titles)
family-film (6 titles)
children's-film (15 titles)
film-for-children (4 titles)
kids-family (78 titles)
✅ "fantasy" keywords:
fantasy (4 titles)
fantasy-film (12 titles)
fantasy-show (1 title)
✅ "film-noir" keywords:
noir (8 titles)
film-noir-genre (35 titles)
✅ "game show" keywords:
gameshow (37 titles)
game-shows (5 titles)
✅"history" keywords:
history (66 titles)
historic (127 titles)
historic-movie (1 title)
✅ "horror" keywords:
horror-film (60 titles)
horror-films (5 titles)
horror-movie (62 titles)
horror-genre (7 titles)
horror-shows (2 titles)
horror-tv-show (2 titles)
✅ "music" keywords:
music (27 titles)
music-film (8 titles)
music-show (48 titles)
✅ "musical" keywords:
musical-film (12 titles)
musical-films (5 titles
musical (2 titles)
musical-show (3 titles)
✅ "mystery" keywords:
mystery-film (12 titles)
mistery (34 titles)
"reality-tv" keywords:
reality-television (43 titles)
tv-reality (26 titles)
reality-tv-show (33 titles)
tv-reality-show (60 titles)
reality-show (319 titles)
✅ "romance" keywords:
romance-film (1 title)
romantic-movie (1 title)
✅ "sci-fi" keywords:
science-fiction (177 titles)
si-fi (4 titles)
✅ "short" keywords:
short (9 titles)
short-films (56 titles)
shortfilm (19 titles)
short--film (16 titles)
films-short (5 titles)
best-short-film (4 titles)
best-new-short-films (3 titles)
best-short-films-ever (3 titles)
best-thriller-short-film (2 titles)
short-film-series (2 titles)
new-short-films (2 titles)
new-short-film (1 title)
short-film-2020 (1 title)
cinematic-short-film (1 title)
latestshortfilm (1 title)
short-film-project (1 title)
2nd-short-film (1 title)
sad-short-film (1 title)
short-movie (71 titles)
shortmovie (6 titles)
movies-short (6 titles)
✅ "sport" keywords
sport (7 titles)
sports (337 titles)
sports-film (70 titles)
sports-movie (1 title)
"talk show" keywords:
talkshow (72 titles)
talk-shows (44 titles)
talk (247 titles)
talk-talk (38 titles)
talk-talk-talk (19 titles)
tv-talk-show (77 titles)
television-talk-show (28 titles)
✅ thriller keywords:
thrilller (32 titles)
thriller-movie (2 titles)
✅ "war" keywords:
war-movie (9 titles)
war-film (5 titles)
war (1 title)
wars (6 titles)
movie-war (14 titles)
✅ "western" keywords:
western-movie (23 titles)
western-film (18 titles)
western-genre (2 titles)
Most contributors who use these keywords are probably doing so unaware that genre keywords are prohibited. However, other contributors are undoubtedly using these keywords deliberately to bypass the ban on genre keywords.
Once these keywords are audited, it would make sense to ban them, so that they can't be used in the future as genre keywords, whether accidentally or intentionally.
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keyword_expert
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Great news! The following genre-infused keywords have now been permanently deleted and blocked from IMDb:
2nd-short-film
action-film
action-films
action-movie
adult-film
adult-movie
adults-only
animated-film
animated-movie
animated-tv-show
animation-film
animation-movie
best-new-short-films
best-short-film
best-short-films-ever
best-thriller-short-film
bio
bio-pic
biograph
biographical
biopic
children's-film
cinematic-short-film
comedia (Spanish, Portuguese)
comedic
comedie (French)
comedy-film
comedy-movie
commedia (Italian)
crime
crime-movie
crime-show
documentaire (French)
documental (Spanish)
documentaries
documentary
documentary-films
dokumentation (German)
drama-film
dramas
family-film
family-movie
fantasy
fantasy-film
fantasy-show
film-document
film-documentary
film-for-children
film-noir-genre
films-short
game-shows
gameshow
historic-movie
history
horror-film
horror-films
horror-genre
horror-movie
horror-shows
horror-tv-show
kids-family
latestshortfilm
life-story
lifestory
mistery
movie-war
movies-short
music
music-film
music-show
musical
musical-film
musical-films
musical-show
mystery-film
new-short-film
new-short-films
noir
reality-tv-show
romance-film
romantic-movie
sad-short-film
science-fiction
short
short--film
short-film-2020
short-film-project
short-film-series
short-films
short-movie
short-subject
shortfilm
shortmovie
si-fi
sport
sports
sports-film
sports-movie
talk
talk-shows
talk-talk
talk-talk-talk
talkshow
theatrical-short
thriller-movie
thrilller
tv-reality
tv-reality-show
war
war-film
war-movie
wars
western-film
western-genre
western-movie
Now that we have achieved this major milestone, I have started up a new thread to seek help from the community in auditing these final keywords:
tv-game-show
historic
historical
reality-television
reality-show
tv-talk-show
television-talk-show
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bradley_kent
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No, they SHOULD NOT be banned, but audited (there's that word that rouses a semantic reaction in some ... fact-checked, instead?) to see if they qualify for another keyword, or, with the reality tv ones, be combined.
I suspect that the "noir" keywords may quality for the neo-noir sub-genre keyword.
Yes, genres SHOULD NOT be keywords, even in combination with other genres (i.e. musical-comedy, etc.) BUT sub-genres are important keywords, and, in some future, ideal world, may even be elevated to genre status.
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Peter_pbn
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If a movie plot includes a reality show, it is not against any written rule to add reality-show as a keyword. You may of course prefer a different keyword, and you are free to ask IMDb to take measures in that direction.
Looking at reality-show, less than half the entries are for titles with the Reality-TV genre. The most obvious corrections to make would be to delete the keyword from those titles because it is those entries that are against the rules. And instead of banning the keyword in general, perhaps it could be blocked from titles that already have the genre.
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keyword_expert
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@bradley_kent @Peter_pbn
I decided to dig a lot deeper into this, and discovered a whole lot more genre keywords that should probably be banned. I have updated this post to include what I found. It appears that this project is much bigger than I had anticipated.
Again, my question here is whether these keywords should first be "audited" (aka fact-checked as Mr. Kent said), and then perma-banned. The idea is to stop these keywords from being used in the future.
Is there any inherent justification for keeping any of these keywords and allowing contributors to keep using them (as either intentional or inadvertent means of skirting the ban on genre keywords)?
Peter has suggested that at least one of these keywords (and possibly others) might be appropriate if they are a plot point within a movie that falls under a different genre. I completely understand his point. However, I still think that the best way of handling that would be to ban the keywords in this list and then encourage use of the "as-subject" keywords, like "reality-tv-as-subject," "war-as-subject," "horror-movies-as-subject," etc. Peter, in light of that idea, do you still believe that any of the keywords in this post should remain (once audited)?
Finally, don't be deceived by the relatively low numbers for most of the keywords in this list. It looks to me like our fellow contributors have been auditing these keywords periodically over time. If you click on the keywords in my list, you will see that for many of them, all or most of the titles are from 2019, 2020, 2021, or in pre-production. This is evidence that someone has been periodically monitoring these keywords and removing them from titles. I have been doing exactly that with the "noir" keyword, and even before I started with that one, there was similar evidence that someone else had been monitoring "noir" before me. (Again, for the vast majority of titles assigned the "noir" keyword, I usually end up changing it to "neo-noir.").
My whole point of this post is that we shouldn't have to waste our time perpetually monitoring these keywords. There should be a concerted, contemporaneous effort to clean all of these keywords up, and then they should be banned.
If others disagree with that basic concept, then I won't push this idea further. However, it will mean that the problems with these keywords will persist ad infinitum, and each improper use of each of these keywords will need to be addressed after the fact. To me it makes no sense to have to keep manually dealing with these problematic keywords over time. That approach is inefficient to say the least. The root problems with these keywords should be addressed by blocking them from being used in the first place.
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Original post updated to add "science-fiction" to the list.
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keyword_expert
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Original post added to include several "talk show" substitute keywords.
For some reason, this post has been marked as "solved." I do not consider the topic to be solved.
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Original post updated to include several "short" substitute keywords.
And thank you to IMDb staff for unmarking this post as solved.
In the coming days, I will likely create a new post proposing that most, if not all, of these keywords should be purged from IMDb. In the meantime, all contributors are more than welcome to "audit" any of these keywords they might believe to be partially valid.
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keyword_expert
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Edited list to add: western-genre (2 titles)
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Edited to rearrange the genres in this post in alphabetical order.
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Edited to add a couple more keywords in the "animation" category.
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Edited to add a new "documentary" category, to add a few new "short" keywords, and to add check marks next to each category whose audit is finished.
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bradley_kent
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I am not sure what you are doing in your audits. Just looked at the faulty "action" keywords, and found some that had "action-movie" as a keyword, but NOT Action as a genre, or "action-filmmaking" as keyword. I submitted corrections.
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bradley_kent
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I have been auditing many keywords and genres in almost every keyword listed above, and there are many mistakes. To audit all will take a long time. This still needs to be done before they are deleted.
P.S. "commedia," :comedia" and possible "comédie" may be a legitimate subgenre, possibly related to "commedia-dell'-arte." This will take a lot of work and time to clear up.
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bradley_kent
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Please add the following keywords under Biography:
biopic
life-story
lifestory
And how can we get IMDb to accept a deletion of "biographical-documentary" as a keyword?
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