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Production Accountant Credit

Production Accountants are Department Heads that oversee $100 Million or more in a season.  We even get on-screen credit as Production Accountant or Production Controller.  Why does IMDB throw them into "Series Additional Crew" with PA's and office staff?  Other department heads such as Art Director, Locations, Transportation or any other department heads are credited accordingly in IMDB to match their on-screen credits.  Production Accountants nationwide would very much appreciate if you would correct this issue.  You can check my last series "Rebel" for ABC or look up my IMDB Kathy Riley I (additional crew) and you will see what it looks like to have been in this business for 30+ years as a department head lumped in with Additional Crew.  United Talent Agency represents Directors of Photography, Assistant Directors, Production Designers, Costume Designers and they are looking to represent Production Accountants now as well.   

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2 years ago

@Michelle :  I posted about the Production Accountant Credit on 8/9/22.  Can you tell me how we now have posts that are over 4 years old included in our conversation? 

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@kathyriley​ I believe they found it necessary to merge another conversation with ours since it was relevant.

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@bclaassen​  I appreciate your trying to answer my question.  We aren't debating if we should get credits, as was discussed in the thread 4 years ago.  The decision was made a long time ago.

They often don't credit the entire department, which is unfortunate; but I understand who is credited (especially in television) is limited by the standards that have been set. 

My initial question pointed to the fact that if the Producers, Studio, and/or "powers that be", find that our contribution to the production process is valuable enough to credit us in the End Credits as Production Accountants or Production Controller, why does IMDb change it to "Additional Crew"? 

That's all...the 4-year-old debate isn't worth debating...unfortunately, I responded to a few before I realized they were old.  

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2 years ago

@Michelle any update on whether or not this change will be implemented? There's a significant amount of interest in having this change made. Any update in the progress of making this change would be much appreciated! 

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2 years ago

Here's a great example of why IMDb should match our on-screen credits.  I have IMDbPro, they say "create your IMDbPro Card" and VOILA!  My IMDbPro Card says "Additional Crew"...really?  The salary we make, the responsibilities we are entrusted with...and the best we can get is "additional crew"?   There are websites that are requesting our IMDb link now for jobs, I am paying for IMDbPro; most other departments can share their links and it identifies their role on the show.  Please IMDbPro, make this policy change!  We can even help correct our own pages, if that's holding you back!

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2 years ago

I absolutely agree with this Idea.  Accounting should have its own credit.

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2 years ago

Thank you Kathy for bringing this up with IMDB. I have been fighting for years for the Financial Controller to be recognized outside of just OTHER Crew (in IMDB) since our functions and responsibilities on filmed entertainment projects would be at the same level as a Producer, to whom we communicate all the very important financial info so that the show can keep up the proper pace, boundries and schedule.

I hope IMDB is listening...

Sincerely,

Giancarlo Sini

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@GiancarloS​ This thread started months ago...I tried and the IMDB community is listening.

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2 years ago

@michelle:  Thank you IMDB for this forum and the ability to voice our desire for the addition of a Production Accounting credit on IMDB.  Do you think we "moved the needle" at all with the # of votes we have received so far?  Is it possible that there could be changes in the works at IMDB?

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2 years ago

The Accounting department is a key function of most productions and should not be classified as "Other crew" on the credits. This team is critical to the success of any show, especially the more complex and high end budget projects, which require specialised skills to ensure that the project is able to meet both it's creative and contractual obligations.

Similar to the Production team, the Accounts function is responsible for budgeting, cost tracking, reporting and in most cases they work closely with the producers and production team to manage costs and avoid overspends. The key accountant is, in my experience, one of the approval signatories on most costs, and they manage cashflow and bank account transactions in addition to ensuring statutory compliance for the project. Producers respectfully acknowledge this department in it's own category in the on-screen credit rolls, surely this should also be the case on a widely used platform such as IMDB.

Please advise how best to address this with IMDB to ensure that the Accounting team, like all important role-players on a production are represented respectfully in the IMBD credits.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Accounts Department Crew Classification

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2 years ago

I'm 41 years deep in this industry. 25 as Department Head or Controller. I worked in Executive Production Finance years ago as well. It's long over due. Without script or money, the project doesn't happen. We should be a respected as writers with WGA and as fiercely protected as Teamsters. Our credit should be moved right next to Producers and DP. Every investor relies on the books.... the numbers, the revenue and projection. Wall Street knows these are well worn tools and Hollywood does too. We should also get back end deals. A percentage of the net proceeds. We're very much the bloodline of the bottomine. 

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2 years ago

Thank you Kathy. This is right on! The Production accountant and team are just as integral, if not more,  as the creative department heads are to the production. 
Hoping IMDb will fix this retroactively! Stacia 

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2 years ago

So IMDB has introduced a new design and still no update regarding our issue. What a shame :(

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1 year ago

Given that many productions choose to use IMDb to get an idea of your working background quickly why shouldn't Accounts be given a separately identifiable credit category, we perform a very important function even if we are not so visible to the rest of the production.  However, you can bet if they have a query you are on their quick dial until you get it resolved.