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Please delete and then ban the "biographical-documentary" keyword for all titles...
that already have Biography and Documentary as genres.
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that already have Biography and Documentary as genres.
bradley_kent
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that already have History and Documentary as genres.
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keyword_expert
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IMDb Staff:
I am not sure why Mr. Kent is not disclosing the full context here, since it has been pointed out to him many times over the past couple weeks, but it must be noted that the keyword "biographical-documentary" is on the new list of "accepted" subgenre keywords.
Therefore, I doubt staff will want to delete this keyword from any title to which it is relevant without further discussion about the subgenre keywords in general.
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gromit82
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I agree with Bradley's request but would like to amplify it to state that "biographical-documentary" also should be removed from the list of accepted subgenre keywords at https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/keywords/GXQ22G5Y72TH8MJ5#special.
Elsewhere on the same page, it says:
By the same token, we have the genres Biography and Documentary so they ought to be submitted as genres to a title rather than encouraging the use of a keyword biographical-documentary.
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bradley_kent
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So, let's being by removing those supposed subgenres that just combine one genre with another (which is absolutely against IMDb guidelines, by the way):
biographical-documentary
crime-documentary
history-documentary
(military and) war-documentary
music-documentary
sports-documentary
historical-drama
tragedy-drama
sports-news
comedy-talk-show
Did I miss any?
There are so many other inaccurate "subgenres" on this list that it is absolutely mind-boggling. More to come...
P.S. The only exception I can think of (at this tlme) for a keyword that can correctly combine two genres is "war-crime," whch is certainly happening right now with Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
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bradley_kent
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This "bad" keyword combines two genres, and deletions are not being accepted by IMDb.
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bradley_kent
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This is a very curious situation where certain animated Disney features and big-budget Hollywood movies are "protected" from having this keyword (which combines two genres) deleted. It can, curiously, be deleted for lesser-known titles and all TV episodes, but not for the "protected biggies."
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Michelle
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Hi bradley_kent, keyword_expert, & gromit82 -
Thanks for posting your feedback regarding the current list of accepted sub-genre keywords. I have passed along these comments to the appropriate team who will re-review our policies and the current list. As soon as I have an update I will relay the information and any expected changes here.
Cheers!
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bradley_kent
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This needs an audit. Some titles have both Comedy and Family as genres, so this keyword can be deleted. Other titles need or already have the "family-relationship" keyword, while others may need that keyword deleted. This cannot be done while the keyword is blocked. And, of course, some may need Comedy as a genre and family-relationships as a keyword.
And, again, just blocking or purging this keyword does not take into account the individual representation of each title.
By the way, "family-drama" has now been completely audited and can be blocked/purged as a keyword.
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bradley_kent
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Flight with Firebird (2022)
It incorrectly involves two genres that already exist for this title.
After it is removed, it can be "blocked/purged" from further submission and addition.
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bradley_kent
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Bump. How about some staff action on this?
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bradley_kent
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In the meantime, I have done an audit of all titles with the erroneous (in my opinion) "biographical-documentary" keyword so all have Biography and Documentary as genres, but this changes every day. A decision needs to be made, or are keywords just going to repeat and combine genres that are already in the database as genres?
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bradley_kent
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and blocked from further addition. It STILL remains on one title:
Flight with Firebird (2022)
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bradley_kent
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are standalone genres or just combine two or more genres in an erroneous keyword. This is your own guideline and policy, but it is NOT being followed. Genres SHOULD NOT be keywords.
An example:
The erroneous keyword "family-comedy" has 728 titles. An advanced search of the Comedy AND Family genres reveals 272,958 titles! This erroneous keyword is absolutely unnecessary.
An even more bizarre example:
The erroneous keyword "war-romance" has ONLY ONE title. Yet, an advanced search of the War and Romance genres reveals 9,600 titles! This erroneous keyword is absolutely unnecessary.
This problem extends to many other examples, but let's begin with just these two. Please, delete these keywords and block their further incorrect submission.
P.S. I can give you other examples, if you wish.
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