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Name page for fictional character?

I found a name page at https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12194166/ for Darth Vader (IV). This is not a person who has adopted the Star Wars character's name as his stage name; there are no credits on this page. Rather, the only content on this page appears to consist of 14 photos from the Star Wars movies of the character.

The page also claims that at IMDbPro, one can find "Contact info" and "Agent info" for this person, although, not surprisingly, IMDbPro does not have such information, given that Mr. Vader lived and died a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

Seriously, though, I have just submitted a request through the help desk about this, but I thought the staff might want to know that this error had been made.

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The fact he has the roman number IV, means there are 3 other Darth Vaders.

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Adrian: As ACT1 implies, there are two other Darth Vaders on IMDb, and Darth Vader (III) appears to not currently be assigned. I don't know who Darth Vader (I) and (II) are, but to some extent they may be real people using "Darth Vader" as their names.

(That said, the credit on https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1166112/ for Darth Vader (I) as a presenter at the Science Fiction Film Awards (1978) (TV) must be incorrect.)

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3 years ago

Hi gromit82-

Thank you for reporting and bringing it to our attention for us to take a further look! I can see that this name page has been removed and is no longer live on the site. 

Cheers! 

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3 years ago

Please delete this as well: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12366662/

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@mbmb​ To be clear, the credits on the page at https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12366662/ under the name Bugs Bunny (II) may refer to a person who was using "Bugs Bunny" as a stage name.

However, the photos (images) on that page all depict the cartoon character Bugs Bunny and should not be on that page. Nor should the two official sites linked there, both of which refer to the cartoon character, not to whoever this guy is.

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@gromit82​ no, I have another report for the title already, there is no "guy", it's about the cartoon character.

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@mbmb​ & @gromit82 Hi- 

I have investigated the credit that is in this other page, however, I cannot find any information on it or that it might be a "stage" name for the person on that particular episode. Do you happen to have other information, if any?

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@Maya​ I don't have any other information, but I can see that right now, everything on the page for Bugs Bunny (II) (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12366662/) refers to the cartoon character. The photos, the links, the news -- they're all pertaining to the fictional character. Therefore, the whole page can and should be deleted since nothing on it would be for a valid name page.

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@gromit82​ Perfect! Thank you for letting me know! 

I have gone ahead and remove this invalid page already. The changes will be live on the site shortly.

Cheers!

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@Maya​ Hey Maya, can I cheekily piggyback a deletion for this page in here too.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm14570808/

Someone added name of series instead of their own name and created a page. Cheers.

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@VonPunk​ Hi-

No worries! Thank you actually for all the reports on these invalid pages!

I have deleted this invalid page as well and it will be updated soon on the site. 

Cheers!

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@Maya​ Thank you very much. :)

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I have investigated the credit that is in this other page, however, I cannot find any information on it

@Maya​ that (archive footage) credit was there just because there was a few seconds Bugs Bunny cartoon clip played in that episode. That means it's not a valid credit. We can't add a cartoon character as archive footage credit just because a footage from a Bugs Bunny cartoon was seen in that episode for a few seconds.

And there was also a fake title which was already deleted by Michelle a few days ago.

In short, I had already checked everything and was sure it should be deleted before posting the link here.

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@mbmb​ 

If the footage is from another feature (and in this case it is), it wouldn't be eligible for a cast listing regardless of whether it is a fictional character or not. It should be covered by a movie connection.

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@adrian​ Yeah I know that, but unfortunately some staffers don't understand that policy. You know Hugh Jackman's invalid credit on Deadpool 2 which you tried to explain why it's not eligible for a cast listing on this forum to a user several times. @Bethanny not only incorrectly added that credit, she also reinstated that credit after I removed it with a 738 words and 4988 characters explanation which mentions previous correct decisions by @Michelle and @Will and several guideline and policy quotes and explanations also with actual evidence links to explain why it's not eligible for a cast credit (if @Michelle or @Bethanny sees this post, they can read that long explanation here: 221023-235045-780000) but these meant nothing, because Bethanny further incorrectly protected it against removal despite previous correct staff decisions and all the guideline explanations (and somehow these "steps" which never works when they need to work actually worked here this time and it's really protected against any removal attempt)

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@gromit82​ 😀

Sun Feb 26 2023 
page for Bugs Bunny (II) 
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12366662/

refers to the cartoon character

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The requested URL was not found on our server

July 5 2023

Wayback Machine

Bugs Bunny(II)
http://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.imdb.com/name/nm12366662/

Saved 14 times between October 13, 2021 and February 6, 2023.

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We need a separate thread for 221023-235045-780000, as reportedly it doesn't have anything to do with IMDb name pages reserved for fictional characters or actual people named after the characters.

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The names on this thread weren't credited as real people, were they? The links are dead now so I can't see.

Here's a case where a fictional character (Norman Bates) was thanked in the credits as if he were real. I assume this is still legitimate name page, right?

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1936255

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Thanks credits:

This list is for people (both individuals and specific groups); companies and amorphous groups should be listed in the miscellaneous companies list. Anything not fitting into the previous categories (mythical beings, inanimate objects, etc.) should be listed as a crazy credit.

It would be helpful if fictional characters were actually mentioned here as well as in general credit or name guidelines.

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2 years ago

Hi everyone!

@mbmb to address the issue mentioned on your comment, this was escalated, our policy team determined it was an eligible credit and that is why it was protected and will not be deleted. Thanks for understanding.

@jay_spirit & @Peter_pbn - We will confirm with our policy team if fictional characters thanks should go on crazy credits, if so it will be added to the guides and we can proceed to delete that page.

Will keep you posted!

Cheers!

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What is going on here? Doesn't the policy team know that the inclusion of Wolverine/Logan (Hugh Jackman) in Deadpool 2 is entirely borrowed from X-Men Origins: Wolverine? That does not even qualify as archive footage, as the production from which the shot originated is well-known.

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@Bethanny​ Sorry but I will be honest and say that I don't believe there was any "policy team" involvement there, it was surely only your own -misguided- decision. It was fast, you never mentioned anything about "forwarding to the policy team and waiting for answer" or anything like that. That decision was made by you instantly, on the same day I think, there was no waiting period or anything. You even added that as a full credit first, which was what I deleted, and that alone is a proof of why it was only your own -misguided- action, you added that as a full credit in the first place. So I can't believe what you're saying here right now. To me, you simply were not aware of the previous -correct- decisions made by Will or Michelle or other employees and were not aware of the relevant policies (you would become aware of all this if you checked why it was deleted and read the reason instead of assuming it was deleted for no reason and quickly taking actions without a consideration) and made the decision on the spot, obviously without consulting anyone at all (because like I said it was so fast) and you obviously did not try to understand why it would be removed and did not read the long explanation of that removal when you were taking these actions too (you recently decided out of nowhere that I was vandalising without reading the explanation boxes for a release date edit I made by solely trusting the words of someone with only two messages on forum and without verifying anything for example, you just arbitrarily decided I was vandalising out of nowhere with these release date edits without reading or checking anything, and without trying to understand why would I made it, and forced me to open a thread about it, so not reading reasons and making decisions on the spot is not an uncommon thing)

That is clearly against the guidelines and if "policy team" (or you) wants to change that, they (or you) should change the guidelines first, but like I said, I don't believe any policy team involvement here in the first place. If that's true, then that means "policy team" does not know "policies".

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