Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
Implementation of new genres
Back in July 2010, there was a discussion about new genres to be added to IMDb. After a discussion, eventually the following five genres were approved by the IMDb staff:
Soap Opera
Erotica
Awards Show
Experimental
Lifestyle
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/165524169?p=3&d=167577501#167577501
In December 2010 and January 2011, contributors discussed definitions for each of the five new genres, which were in turn approved by the staff.
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176453004 (Awards Show)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176843542 (Erotica)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176800928 (Experimental)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/175322002 (Lifestyle)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176453288 (Soap Opera)
On January 31, 2011, then-staffer jaimie-k wrote that he was working hard to make the implementation of the genres happen as fast as possible.
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/174139769?p=2&d=177533770#177533770
However, it has been almost three years since then, and none of the new genres have been implemented yet.
We haven't even gotten an explanation for the delay since May 2012, when we were told, "It is difficult to add new genres because it requires coordination across multiple sites, multiple mobile applications on multiple platforms and multiple languages."
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/198586611?d=199705646#199705646
But that explanation doesn't sound right, because regardless of what application we use to view IMDb data, the underlying data is still stored the same way. The IMDb App for iPhone or Android or Windows Phone needs to know where to display the genre for a film -- but the app shouldn't need to be reprogrammed just because there are more genres that can be selected from. We're not talking about adding a new field of data -- we're just talking about adding new values to an existing field of data.
Or to put it another way, the Country of Origin field is another field where there are a finite number of choices that can be selected from. Suppose that Scotland or Catalonia or Flanders or Quebec became independent and started producing films and television shows. It wouldn't take years to add those new countries to the Country of Origin field. It would be done pretty quickly after the first new title was submitted with an "Explanation for missing information" identifying the film's Country of Origin as not being listed in the drop-down box.
In short, on a programming difficulty scale, where creating a program that prints "Hello, world!" is a 1, and getting Healthcare.gov (the "Obamacare" website) to operate properly is a 10, implementing the new genres should be no more than a 3. The IMDb programmers have done some much more complex programming than that in the last three and a half years. Please have them go ahead and implement the new genres without further delay.
Soap Opera
Erotica
Awards Show
Experimental
Lifestyle
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/165524169?p=3&d=167577501#167577501
In December 2010 and January 2011, contributors discussed definitions for each of the five new genres, which were in turn approved by the staff.
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176453004 (Awards Show)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176843542 (Erotica)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176800928 (Experimental)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/175322002 (Lifestyle)
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/176453288 (Soap Opera)
On January 31, 2011, then-staffer jaimie-k wrote that he was working hard to make the implementation of the genres happen as fast as possible.
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/174139769?p=2&d=177533770#177533770
However, it has been almost three years since then, and none of the new genres have been implemented yet.
We haven't even gotten an explanation for the delay since May 2012, when we were told, "It is difficult to add new genres because it requires coordination across multiple sites, multiple mobile applications on multiple platforms and multiple languages."
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000042/nest/198586611?d=199705646#199705646
But that explanation doesn't sound right, because regardless of what application we use to view IMDb data, the underlying data is still stored the same way. The IMDb App for iPhone or Android or Windows Phone needs to know where to display the genre for a film -- but the app shouldn't need to be reprogrammed just because there are more genres that can be selected from. We're not talking about adding a new field of data -- we're just talking about adding new values to an existing field of data.
Or to put it another way, the Country of Origin field is another field where there are a finite number of choices that can be selected from. Suppose that Scotland or Catalonia or Flanders or Quebec became independent and started producing films and television shows. It wouldn't take years to add those new countries to the Country of Origin field. It would be done pretty quickly after the first new title was submitted with an "Explanation for missing information" identifying the film's Country of Origin as not being listed in the drop-down box.
In short, on a programming difficulty scale, where creating a program that prints "Hello, world!" is a 1, and getting Healthcare.gov (the "Obamacare" website) to operate properly is a 10, implementing the new genres should be no more than a 3. The IMDb programmers have done some much more complex programming than that in the last three and a half years. Please have them go ahead and implement the new genres without further delay.
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
3 years ago
This is my 11th anniversary bump of this idea; the five genres under discussion here were announced as having been approved on July 25, 2010.
I see that Col responded to this problem a few months ago, and apparently IMDb is somewhere on the road to making it possible to implement the new genres after the programmers made it impossible to do so for some reason. But I suspect that we are still some time away from seeing implementation of these genres.
I would like to thank the 37 people who have liked this idea, although for some reason this Sprinklr site doesn't allow me to see their usernames. In any event, though, I appreciate your support.
6
plur62
286 Messages
•
6.1K Points
3 years ago
"Performance" for recorded theatre shows, they are currently in feature film category, most of them. :/
0
0
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
3 years ago
We're now up to eleven and a half years that we've been waiting for the new genres.
1
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
2 years ago
Today marks the 12-year anniversary of when IMDb announced that it had selected the five new genres for inclusion in the database (July 25, 2010).
As the years go by, it seems less and less likely that the staff will ever get around to adding these genres in our lifetimes. Therefore, I suggest that if any contributor here passes away, their ghost should go to the IMDb offices and haunt the staff until they finally assign someone to program these genres into the software.
(edited)
2
keyword_expert
2.7K Messages
•
47K Points
2 years ago
I still support this post.
6
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
1 year ago
We're now past the 13-year mark on implementing the five new genres, which were announced on July 25, 2010.
I don't know what the problem is. I thought all the back-end programming that was supposed to make it possible to add the new genres was completed a while ago.
Could we please get a comment from the staff?
3
chaseholden
18 Messages
•
528 Points
1 year ago
(edited)
2
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
1 year ago
Since some of the older threads have disappeared in recent weeks, I'm bumping this one to ensure that it never gets expired before it is actually resolved. I'm not expecting an actual response right now.
3
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
7 months ago
I'm bumping this thread because I haven't done so since December.
0
gromit82
Champion
•
7.5K Messages
•
276.4K Points
5 months ago
Today is July 25, 2024, marking the 14th anniversary of when the IMDb staff announced five new genres to be added to the database:
And, as I've noted many times before, these genres have not yet been implemented, and we have no idea when that will happen.
Will these genres make it to their "sweet 16" without being implemented? That's only two years away. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
10