Updates to List Pages

Today (Dec 6) we are announcing an update to the List pages on the IMDb desktop experience. This update is part of the broader site changes announced recently (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for lists. We have merged “compact view” and list editing into a single Edit experience. In that one view, you can now modify your text and add, copy, delete and move items. We have also pulled List actions (edit, export, settings) together into a 1-click menu (the 3 vertical dots on the top right of the page). You will now also find two new options in the Refine menu: ‘In Theaters’ and ‘Keywords.’ Tech constraints on the new system prohibit us from continuing to support drag-and-drop from the Edit view; we appreciate your understanding. For more information about Lists, see the IMDb Help Center.

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Col_Needham

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7 years ago

The next change resulting from the technology migration is now live -- you can now create and edit lists (add/remove items) on the IMDb Android app. Please see https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/imdb-android-lists-update

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Col_Needham

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7 years ago

Basically I hope that IMDb wants to make Lists into a superb feature.

This is 100% true, as is everything on https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 which is driving the wider changes.

If the customer feedback makes it seem more negative than it's worth (like message boards?), they might decide to pull the plug.

No danger of this -- lists are a core feature of IMDb and are from where IMDb originates. The latest changes have already enabled us to add list editing to our Android app at https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/imdb-android-lists-update which brings full list support to more than 100 million additional customers who did not have it before this week (see install count on https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imdb.mobile).

What we especially appreciate from you are the clear, constructive and actionable feedback items. We will not be able to get to all of them in 2017 (see https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0 :-) but they are going on a prioritized list for consideration by the appropriate teams.

Thanks.

chris_dynamo

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Colin, question; in the midst of these updates, are you planning to add a feature where we can find lists on IMDb? Because right now, there's no way. You can't go through the most popular ones, the most likes, the only ones you can see are those that have been most recently made or by using google, which is limited usually to a scant few popular ones, we're talking about maybe a few dozen. Right now, the only way that we can make others remotely aware of our lists is to include links on others' lists, in a 'if I comment on yours, could you comment on mine' sort of way.

A feature like this would make lists far, far more accessible, hugely increasing views and therefore ad money.

7 years ago

dan_dassow

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Hi Chris,

Until IMDb adds the ability to search for a list with IMDb you can use Google to do this kind of search.

This is the general form to add to the search box:
site:imdb.com/list {search terms}

where {search terms} is word or phrase for which you are searching.

For instance, if you are search for lists related to Christmas.

Enter, this in the Google search box.
site:imdb.com/list Christmas

This produces the link:
https://www.google.com/search?ei=8642WvCdCMvImAHL5a24Dg&q=site%3Aimdb.com%2Flist+Christmas&o...

You, other IMDb users and I have requested an indigenous IMDb list search for the last five years. Such a search would be more convenient and useful. However, this approach works fine in most cases.

If you agree that a list search facility would be useful,
you can indicate your support by clicking the "+LIKE" button
or by posting a reply on the request thread at:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/i_think_a_search_engine_for_list_name_is_necessary

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7 years ago

jeorj_euler

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How much revenue do those 100 million additional customers bring to the site?! How much data contribution and troll suppression do they bring?! Why do they matter so much?! Is it just because there are a whole lot of them?! Whatever...

— Jeorj Euler, an IMDb regular registrant

7 years ago

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karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone. Here is a list of updates we've made over the past week (Jan 19):

We added pagination to image lists to fix an issue causing browser crashes with large lists
We increased the number of items you can see in a list (up to 250 per page) to help users with long lists move items around since drag-and-drop is no longer available
Bug fix: If you have a list of 1000+ titles and add another, the total count is now updated correctly
Bug fix: We fixed an issue that was causing problems for Kindle Fire users who wanted to reorder list items

Already implemented:

Improved list item validation. You can no longer add invalid items, for example, if you accidentally mistype an image ID you will get an error so you know to correct it. Also, if an image is no longer available, you have the ability to delete it so that your list item count is accurate [DONE]
Improved the list creation form so that it accepts & and + (for list name and description) [DONE]
Improved list display on Your Activity page (aka your Profile page) so that long list display names wrap to multiple lines [DONE]

I'll update this thread weekly. Thanks for your ongoing feedback and for bearing with us as we make updates to the new system.

bderoes

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@ Karen, Official Rep

You said:

We increased the number of items you can see in a list (up to 250 per page) to help users with long lists move items around since drag-and-drop is no longer available

How do we control this number of items we see? I still get 100 per page (and that's good for normal situations).

7 years ago

chris_6268266

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It looks like that was only changed for edit mode. If they would please increase it to 250 for viewing purposes that would be a step in the right direction. Hopefully they can reinstate compact mode after that.

7 years ago

keester

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updates to the new system

don't you mean "fix what you broke" or "go back to what we had previously"

I often read here about 'community' but your autocratic changes show you care little of the community that uses your website.

7 years ago

bderoes

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I too found that Edit mode now displays 250 titles, but find no option to reduce that to 100.

Ironically, Edit mode is the least efficient at displaying thumbnails, since it is dynamically compressing an extra-large image into a tiny space, and takes visibly longer to finish loading than other types of pages. See this thread for more documentation, posted 10 hours ago: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/site-constantly-loading-yet-fully-loaded?topic-reply-list[se...

I suppose the good news is we can open multiple tabs/windows of Edit mode to see both where the title is and where it's going, and have the number of titles/page match.

But this is no substitute for drag-and-drop. As documented again in more detail 3 days ago here https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=a..., moving titles within lists is a messy business. I don't know if there IS a fool-proof way of moving multiple titles at once and have them land in the exact location you want (at least not without the human understanding the algorithm so well you can predict where it will land).

If we have to move 1 title at a time to ensure its location, then we need to refresh (potentially multiple pages) after each move. With a longer Edit view, that means longer refresh time, and needing to use ctrl-F and other keyboard shortcuts to get to the place on the page that you need. This implies that we need an option to display only 100 titles in Edit mode.

It also implies that we still need drag/drop! As I recall, it was only 50 titles/page for that view, probably because things get wobbly with dynamic "card" placement.

7 years ago

keester

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Edit mode is the least efficient at displaying thumbnails, since it is dynamically compressing an extra-large image into a tiny space, and takes visibly longer to finish loading than other types of pages.

Correct. Shows how little IMDb programmers know about web design. And seriously what does a 40px x 57px image do to a page except add a little color. It is so small it might as well not be there. Which is exactly the point.

BRING BACK COMPACT MODE.

7 years ago

Official Response

karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone. Here is the progress update for the week ending Jan 26. This week:

We improved the performance of list editing for users with large lists
We added links to checklist, watchlist, and ratings to the top of Your Lists page

minalex

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The active links to external websites (e.g. Youtube) stopped functioning again.
Here's an example
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls005313331/

7 years ago

Official Response

karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone. Here is the progress update for the week ending Feb 2.

We fixed an issue that was causing encoded characters in list descriptions to display incorrectly.
We fixed an issue on the Showtimes page that caused the Watchlist ribbon to render incorrectly when viewing trailers.

Additionally, see the iOS update announcement here: https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/ios-update-version-8-5-1-now-available. We've updated lists on iOS with the ability to add or edit notes to any movie, show, or person.

marcel_2895030

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It would be nice if the a 'Synopsis' column is added in the .csv export.
The 'Description' column serves for user's comments only.

Like this...

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7 years ago

marcel_2895030

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Also ..
would like to have the 'Original Title' included if possible, i.e. basically what is in the header of the movie.

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7 years ago

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karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone. Here is the weekly update for the week ending Feb 9:

You can now add a title or name to a list by entering a full URL in the edit list search box ("Add a movie or TV show to this list:")
Your ratings now appear in your exported lists
We fixed an issue that was causing encoded characters on Your Activity page to display incorrectly

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karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone Here is the update for the week ending Feb 16.

We improved list reordering to make edits work more predictably.

We're continuing to work on additional sort options; I'll post announcements when they are available.

bderoes

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@ Karen, Official Rep

Here's a simple example that still fails (destination also placed in comment to track success/failure). Note, title 3 is unaltered; so what was ABCDE is supposed to come out EDCBA:
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And here's the failed result of Save List Order, instead of EDCBA, is ECDBA:
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Here's a simpler one; just move the first title before the 4th one:
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and the result is NOT what the human wanted.
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(I won't clutter the post here, but moving a title ABOVE it's current position DOES give the expected result, as it did previously.)

So there is not much improvement since the idea exchange back here on 17 Jan:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=a...

https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=a...

I wonder if the techs have considered my comments here:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?topic-reply-list[settings][filter_by]=a...
specifically:

I mentioned ... that Information Science has studied the problem of sorting/merging extensively. But I'll bet most if not all academic articles on the subject deal with an objective, unchanging key by which the items should be sorted.
Hopefully IMDb staff are realizing that when we specify that we want an item to appear before the title currently at position n, they need to hang on to the actual title, not just the number n. Otherwise many combinations of moving more than one title at a time will fail.

"Position n" is apparently still NOT an objective unchanging key when certain combinations of moves are requested.

7 years ago

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karen_

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7 years ago

Hi everyone. Here is the update announcement for this week (the week ending Feb 23):

We added an additional list view option. In addition to Detail and Grid, there is now also an option for Compact view.

keester

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But still no refine in edit mode. Makes editing a list near to impossible.

7 years ago

chris_6268266

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THANK YOU!

7 years ago

chris_6268266

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One more little request can you do 250 per page like it is in edit mode?

7 years ago

denise_6033628

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What is the status of bringing back the ability to edit the "Description box" of an IMDb entry? I am hoping that in addition to creating [b]BOLD[/b] and [i]italic[/i] (currently the only editing features I am aware that are available), I would like to once again colorize my text. Colors like [blue]BLUE[/blue], [red]RED[/red] or any of the other colors once available on: https://www.imdb.com/activity/help/descriptionmarkup would be GREAT!!

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7 years ago

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We recognize that this isn't ideal, particularly for those with many lists, and we plan to iteratively update it as this is an important piece of the IMDb experience.

7 years ago

bderoes

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@sv, Official Rep

Please clarify to what you were responding in this comment:
http://email.getsatisfaction.com/wf/click?upn=Gf15zKkQ5xF-2FJchx2RlboEZCOWJo71NP9bexmc7o9m-2Bb0WYK-2...

We recognize that this isn't ideal, particularly for those with many lists, and we plan to iteratively update it as this is an important piece of the IMDb experience.

It is attached to Peter's reply:

If regular lists can have added refine features, why can't the ratings list have any?

To which I also had a lengthy comment/question about Refine options looking very different on custom lists versus Watchlist and Checkins.

7 years ago

danny_townsend_3zafm0rf6tgou

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7 years ago

The edit options appears to be broken. I'm not able to rearrange my list now. We used to be able to click and drag titles.

karen_

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