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Time to give guidelines on how to rate a show/movie.
Hey IMDB, its time that you give a basic guideline on how people rate shows/movies. There are WAY too many people that will go straight to either a 10 or a 1. Its should be pretty rare that a movie is a 1 and virtually impossible for a movie to rate a 10. I shouldn't have to browse 30 reviews to see if they are too many 10's or 1's.
When giving a review for a show, a person should start off at a middle 5 them move up or down from there given how well the show progressed. When people give a 1 rating and they watched a movie for 5 minutes, that hurts the entire rating system as much as simply giving a 10.
Additionally, there should be a way to show/say how you watched. People will rate a movie differently if you PAID to see it in a theater at $20 a person, paid $2 to rent it, paid $15/mo for HBO etc or watched it for FREE. If I paid $60 (for 2) to watch a movie, I would most likely be more harsh rating as if I saw it for FREE on say Tubi.
Just my food for thought.... FYI - this insight is what you pay your executives $100k+ a year to come up with. If you want tens of thousands of dollars worth of great advice, get in touch. JCinHB
MisterT
27 Messages
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402 Points
5 years ago
Better yet, how about new users be restricted of not giving anything more than a 7/10, and no less than a 3/10? I know for a fact when there are many 10/10 fake reviews and I feel it's an honest 4/10, I WILL give it a 1/10 to even the score. I know many people do that when they see all the obvious fake reviews, especially if they didn't do their due diligence to see if it's a new single review account, and go in thinking they are about to see a great movie, and it end up being garbage. It's happened to me, I get pissed, and it's an automatic 1/10. What EVEN WORSE, is that those fake 10/10's will downvote and report any low ratings/reviews for deletion, and the get deleted, unbeknownst to the poster, yet the fake 10/10's still stay and control the rest of the reviews. The entire system is flawed and needs a major overhaul! IMDb needs to show the true critics reviews/rating on every movie next to the members ratings/reviews, just like Rotten Tomatoes does, so that way, one can tell if the member reviews are legit or far fetched.
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MisterT
27 Messages
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402 Points
5 years ago
Oh, and I don't agree on a rating system whether someone paid or saw the movie for free - my time is more valuable than any ticket price.
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uomotorta
49 Messages
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894 Points
5 years ago
You can't go questioning every single rating.
Not everyone has the same opinion (luckily), not everyone has the same experience and the same mood watching a movie.
Yet I agree that there are some silly voters.
But luckily big numbers win and the crowd is wiser.
Just as an example, we all know that "Birth of a Nation" is considered a masterpiece by someone and crappy racist work by somebody else. This is clearly visible in rating breackdown. I could go on with many examples of movies I heavily underrated or overrated with respect to average because something hit my senses or my sensibilty in a good or bad way.
As a matter of rating, I use this policy:
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Emil_Trigedasleng
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372 Points
5 years ago
The idea of new members limited to vote under/above 4-7 is smart. That should clear away some people who creates new memberships just to ruin the vote. This time must be limited of course, perhaps one month is appropriate.
I don't think there should be any differences over how you watched the movie. It doesn't matter if you watched it in a cinema or on your computer.
I think the best way to get rid of people who deteriorate more than they contribute to IMDb is to change the membership so that the service cost money. I don't mean 'IMDb Pro', just a small monthly fee for a full membership (I think around $2-3 is reasonable). A free version may exist, but without the possibility to vote or review.
A lot of people would like to pay a small sum to make the site and the overall experience better. And some people will hate it, of course.
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jeorj_euler
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226.1K Points
5 years ago
I see no need for guidelines (often interpreted to mean "rules"), but I do wonder if and hope that some kind of official advice might be helpful for people who actually want to make the effort of assigning meaningful ratings. Unfortunately, the best advice I could provide was the following:
I don't what to do about bots, trolls, shills, manipulators, sockpuppets and meatpuppets, but as I understand it, IMDb already has a system to address and foil attempts to inflate or deflate a movie's eligibility to be listed among IMDb's top-rated 250 movies, yet I'm not sure what can be done about "wars" over what shall occupy the number one spot on that listing.
What I've stated thus far only really pertains to the casting of ratings votes. Publication of movie reviews may be a whole other story. It might not hurt to establish some kind of probationary period to be imposed upon every newly-registered member of IMDb, as far as this concerns the ability for reviews posted by them to actually be visible to the public (such as at least anybody visiting the site while logged in, perhaps extending further).
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Emil_Trigedasleng
17 Messages
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372 Points
5 years ago
It seems quite obvious that IMDb need some forms of updates to secure a fair and reliable rating system.
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Chazzwaller
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60 Points
4 years ago
Using a simple 1 to 10 scale to rate the entire catalogue of 8 million titles is pretty absurd when you think about it.
Many productions are completely alien to other works found in another genre, period, or medium. Yet you still need to fit them all together within this narrow framework. It is obvious you will get some arbitrary results.
@JCinHB I think you are right in principle - give users a basic methodology on how to rate a title. Try to make the process more uniform. I'm not sure how effective it would be, but it is worth a try.
I am not keen on the restricting new users to 3-7 system. That sounds like papering over the cracks rather than solving anything.
I would prefer to be able to rank a film over 100 points. Would be more useful, but not without its own issues.
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