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Friday, February 3rd, 2017

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IMDb message boards

Please see the text below from http://www.imdb.com/board/announcement

In addition, we have created a new Get Satisfaction categories for "I Need to Know" to replace the "I Need to Know" message board and "IMDb Poll" to replace the "IMDb Poll" message board. A post on the Contributors Help board explains the migration path from there to the newly renamed Get Satisfaction category "Data Issues & Policy Discussions"  (which is an already active community here). 

An FAQ on the closure is now available at http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?boardsclosurefaq

IMDb Message Boards Announcement

IMDb is the world’s most popular and authoritative source for movie, TV and celebrity content. As part of our ongoing effort to continually evaluate and enhance the customer experience on IMDb, we have decided to disable IMDb’s message boards on February 20, 2017. This includes the Private Message system. After in-depth discussion and examination, we have concluded that IMDb’s message boards are no longer providing a positive, useful experience for the vast majority of our more than 250 million monthly users worldwide. The decision to retire a long-standing feature was made only after careful consideration and was based on data and traffic.

Increasingly, IMDb customers have migrated to IMDb’s social media accounts as the primary place they choose to post comments and communicate with IMDb’s editors and one another. IMDb’s Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/imdb) and official Twitter account (https://twitter.com/imdb) have an audience of more than 10 million engaged fans. IMDb also maintains official accounts on Snapchat (https://www.snapchat.com/add/imdblive), Pinterest (https://www.pinterest.com/imdbofficial/), YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/imdb), and Tumblr (http://imdb.tumblr.com/).

Because IMDb’s message boards continue to be utilized by a small but passionate community of IMDb users, we announced our decision to disable our message boards on February 3, 2017 but will leave them open for two additional weeks so that users will have ample time to archive any message board content they’d like to keep for personal use. During this two-week transition period, which concludes on February 19, 2017, IMDb message board users can exchange contact information with any other board users they would like to remain in communication with (since once we shut down the IMDb message boards, users will no longer be able to send personal messages to one another). We regret any disappointment or frustration IMDb message board users may experience as a result of this decision.

IMDb is passionately committed to providing innovative ways for our hundreds of millions of users to engage and communicate with one another. We will continue to enhance our current offerings and launch new features in 2017 and beyond that will help our customers communicate and express themselves in meaningful ways while leveraging emerging technologies and opportunities.


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100 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Please keep message boards!!!.

Please keep message boards!!  They are very informative and helpful!  I'll really miss them!  Thanks! 

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140 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I should locally copy and save/archive content that I want to keep from the IMDB ....

I should locally copy and save/archive content that I want to keep from the IMDB message boards? Where in the last 20 years do you suggest I start from the thousands of movies and TV shows?

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Exactly - and it's precisely this sort of meaningless, unhelpful and patronizing suggestion that just goes to show how out of touch Amazon (imdb's parent coy) is with real life.

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292 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled IMDB Messageboards.

As a web analytics professional (with all the certification you can imagine) - I think your analytics are wrong and the data you're using to reach the decision to close the message boards isn't accurate.

How have you accounted for the customer path of users like myself, who've made under 20 posts to the message boards over the years, but primarily come to the IMDB for the individual movie message boards?

Your path would just show me enter on the movie page (after a "Movie Name IMDB" search through Google), scrolling down, and usually leaving the site.  What I'm doing in that scroll-down is reading the message board topics related to that movie. 

Sometimes I don't even need to click through to know what people are talking about - you'd just log a visit to the movie page, when it's the discussions I'm looking at.

I may click on the synopsis to clear up a few points, but then I will return to the Movie Page & straight for the discussions - Full Synopsis is the only other useful page.  You may not even log my visit (and similar visits) as message board visits, although they are.

You're effectively removing the only valuable thing that IMDB had over other sites.

I'm just wondering how you're tracing customer paths and the analytics used to make this decision.

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They won't tell you, because they doubtless have a hidden agenda behind this decision anyway. The reasons they have given are so out of touch with reality as to be fanciful.

My theory is that Amazon has been hacked - as a result, they have lost much of the old information on the boards and a lot of the new information as well. Due to their admittedly outdated board software, the only way they can ensure that this cannot continue to happen is to delete the boards entirely. 'Conveniently' for them, to do so will also ensure that any future independent investigation into the hacking of the world's largest provider of web hosting services cannot gain access to the very data it needs - the message board data itself. So much more convenient for Amazon (and its shareholders) to just 'make it all go away'.
Anyway, that's just my theory...

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238 Points

Hi Ralph.
You have posted a lot of interesting theories, info, and ideas. I so hope that this theory isn't in the realm of the possible since I desperately want the boards back.
Nancy

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110 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled i used to visit imdb after i watched the movies, not anymore....

i used to spent hours reading the commends on the message board after i watched an episode of game of thrones, and i visited the imdb for its message board for more than 10 years to read it after i watched a movie, but since your staff is not smart enough t make a profit out of it i guess this is goodby

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326 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Solution for Message Board.

I got some ideas that keep message board alive if Imdb really want that 

1- Get paid for MessageBoard
(At a low price members can use messageboard, free users only can see but can't write anything or just imdbpro users can write,  free users only see what written)
Additives---- I don't think trolls give money for trolling

2- Close Personal Message board page 
(I think so many bad, abusive, negative message written to personal page  like actor,actress,director etc. and they are offended so close personal message boards.We dont nedd to discuss actor,actress we want discuss MOVİES)
Additives---Movie star and directors will not be bothered and They can not sue

3-Close the Politics section or You can close all General Boards section 
(So many fight,conflict or racist thing written there. Well we dont need to discuss politics imdb is about movies and series keep away your fight from imdb
Additives--- We get rid of unnecessary talk

4-Close the Message boards of new Movies and Series
(There are too many spoilers, negatives reviews and fanboys (marvel,dc) shows up when new movie came out. Producers doesn't like negatives reviews so close the new movies page and just open 1 year later or whatever leave the movie theaters 
I guess no trolls comes after a year and it's not important for producers because movies are leave Movie theater)
Additives---- Producers and Fanboys not will be problem


Message board only thing i came for imdb and for so many users, this the place we could discuss ideas, share our opinions, we found the answers,we learned what other people think and getting friendship 

Facebook, twitter or other forums will not be same like message board, you know that
How can i find a person that to watch asian,polish,french or whatever country movies from 1965, 1988,1999?  there are so many people did not watch movies so impossible to find them other platforms...

And worst thing is that all the information, knowledge will be gone !!!!!!!
Its be like Library of Alexandria fire for movies and movie lovers 
You cant understand benefits to see message from 2002 or 2005 and That user can come back after so many years and write something.

Message board iconic and unique place for us and You will kill him.

Please reply this post for authorized person can see hope for Col Needham


(I apologize for the bad grammar, English is not my native language)

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120 Points

9 years ago

No official response still to the rejection of this ludicrous notion that Facebook and Twitter can successfully replace the function of message boards.

It is numbingly easy to moderate a forum, in truth, if you put a framework in place and enlist the support of reasonable community volunteers (of which you would have many). The only reason to drive this traffic to (the substandard alternatives of) Facebook and Twitter is that you may see a trickle of revenue from the Ad system there. I say a trickle because if you are expecting a flood as a majority of the boards contributors move to social media, I think it's a little delusional.

For a site that is *driven* by community added and maintained content the removal of the message boards screams contempt for those that made it.

I suggest that contributors simply boycott IMDB. No more corrections. No more additions.

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The problem is I actually enjoy contributing corrections, additions, plots etc - and the reason I enjoy doing it is the same reason as I enjoy contributing to the message boards - to share my knowledge and to learn from others' knowledge.

I think the b@5t@rds at Amazon/imdb realise that suckers like me ultimately will still contribute - but then I really can't think of any other way to get back at them than buy doing what you suggest!

So maybe I'll take your advice - in the end I guess I'll get used to it, and will probably find some other place to contribute instead, like the new moviechat.org

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1.5K Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled 10.000 people have signed the petition to keep the messageboards, 10.000 voices a....

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-to-keep-the-imdb-messageboards-going#

We are 10 000 strong, 10 000 dedicated members who aren't just the accidental click on to the website after seeing a link, or the person who just came to the site to see what rating John  Wick 2 has to never return.

10 000 who just happened to see a random petition which if it had been posted by you on IMDb would definitly have 10 to 50 times as many signatures. So that's easily 100 000-500 000 regular members that you are facing to be losing if you drop the boards.

Think about that for a second, really think about that.

It is also a known fact that the biggest contributors on the site in terms of editing pages adding trivia etc are more than often people who are very active on the boards as well. So you are bound to lose out on some very important contributions as well if you go ahead with it.

As far as trolls goes there are many ways to sort that out, maybe after 5 reports or something a thread/post is deleted. If the reporter is a big time contributor (top 1000 or so) give him a little seniority maybe and give him the power of the insta-snap (taking out the post by one click). Many people have offered to become admins themselves. So there are many ways around that.

Look into the petition and here the cries of the people.

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326 Points

9 years ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Solution for Message board.

I got some ideas that keep message board alive if Imdb really want that 

1- Get paid for MessageBoard 
(At a low price members can use messageboard, free users only can see but can't write anything or just imdbpro users can write,  free users only see what written)
Additives---- I don't think trolls give money for trolling

2- Close Personal Message board page 
(I think so many bad, abusive, negative message written to personal page  like actor,actress,director etc. and they are offended so close personal message boards.We dont nedd to discuss actor,actress we want discuss MOVİES)
Additives---Movie star and directors will not be bothered and They can not sue

3-Close the Politics section or You can close all General Boards section 
(So many fight,conflict or racist thing written there. Well we dont need to discuss politics imdb is about movies and series keep away your fight from imdb
Additives--- We get rid of unnecessary talk

4-Close the Message boards of new Movies and Series
(There are too many spoilers, negatives reviews and fanboys (marvel,dc) shows up when new movie came out. Producers doesn't like negatives reviews so close the new movies page and just open 1 year later or whatever leave the movie theaters 
I guess no trolls comes after a year and it's not important for producers because movies are leave Movie theater)
Additives---- Producers and Fanboys not will be problem


Message board only thing i came for imdb and for so many users, this the place we could discuss ideas, share our opinions, we found the answers,we learned what other people think and getting friendship 

Facebook, twitter or other forums will not be same like message board, you know that
How can i find a person that to watch asian,polish,french or whatever country movies from 1965, 1988,1999?  there are so many people did not watch movies so impossible to find them other platforms...

And worst thing is that all the information, knowledge will be gone !!!!!!!
Its be like Library of Alexandria fire for movies and movie lovers 
You cant understand benefits to see message from 2002 or 2005 and That user can come back after so many years and write something.

Message board iconic and unique place for us and You will kill him.

Please reply this post for authorized person can see hope for Col Needham


(I apologize for the bad grammar, English is not my native language)

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29.6K Points

9 years ago

 
Another viewpoint:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/17/why-imdb-should-rethink-the-decision-to-close-its-messa...

... and if you're reading that, also find the comments (and click "View more comments") to read some contrasting viewpoints.

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1.5K Points

9 years ago

The petition have caught the eyes and ears of the prestigious THE GUARDIAN who wrote this article about the messageboard shutdown and why it's a bad thing:  https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/17/why-imdb-should-rethink-the-decision-to-close-its-messa...

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234 Points

9 years ago

I have been using IMDb since mid 90s. With pretty much every movie I watch (2-3 per week) I check out the IMDb afterward to see what people are discussing about the film. Doesn't matter whether the film is brand new or 90 years old, there's always something interesting to get from the board. I only lurk, this is the first time I've logged in in years. Did IMDb consider the board traffic it gets from non-logged in users? Where else on the web can one find a dedicated message board for every movie in existence? You are throwing away literally the most interesting feature of the website. With much love and respect, get your head out of your asses.

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124 Points

9 years ago

I am really disappointed to hear this new. I've been using message boards since it first came around. I got more info about the movies and theories from the message boards than anywhere else. :-(

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124 Points

9 years ago

I really hope you reconsider terminating the message boards. You're taking something important away from a huge base of movie, television etc. watchers.

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124 Points

9 years ago

maybe an action for them to notice would be if we all deleted the apps. deleting mine today.

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132 Points

9 years ago

Col or Jeff Bezos or whoever in charge, don't you think your decision is damaging to business interests? I mean isn't it the roots of IMDb can be found in newsgroups? The only reason the database exists is because people were talking films, enthusiastic enough to collect data endlessly, right? And nothing has changed since then. People, movie fans, just want to talk movies. Freely and without a specific form. Directly from the list of movies and shows. But if you stop people from talking movies, movies don't happen anymore on the internet. Not in a way viewers, fans feel connected. I say you totally underestimate the economic value of a traditional forums.