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Year of invention (title types) question

According to the screenshot below, IMDb does not accept titles for these categories before the years indicated, but currently there are:

-59 shorts before 1888

-327 video titles before 1976

-137 podcast series before 2004

-6,537 podcast episodes before 2004

and several pre-1927 TV titles

Are short films the same as the "Movie" category or do different rules apply to them?

Can this be fixed at once or should we go through the contribution process? @Col_Needham

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Plur: There are a variety of issues here. Some of these titles are misclassified, but others are allowed in by exceptions.

Most of the pre-1888 shorts (and shorts fall within the category of Movies) are series of photographs depicting persons or animals in movement, created by Eadweard Muybridge. I don't know exactly whether it is correct to describe them as short films, but Muybridge's work is considered, at least, an important precursor to motion pictures. So I assume they're allowed into IMDb by special exception.

Some of the pre-1976 videos (although certainly not all) are actually TV commercials, such as Tootsie Pop: How Many Licks (1969) (V) and Life Cereal: Three Brothers (1972) (V). The IMDb title formatting guide does say that commercials should be submitted as follows:

Commercials 
Brand: Title of advert if known (year) (V) i.e. Chanel N°5: The One That I Want (2014) (V)
Please submit as Made for Video
Please add the keywords: commercial, the brand i.e. chanel-no.-5

I would suggest that entering TV commercials as made-for-video titles was probably done as a workaround because it would have been difficult to create an entirely new title type at the time.

The contributors who submitted pre-1976 TV commercials as made-for-video titles did so correctly, in accordance with IMDb policy. The ban on pre-1976 video titles is actually phrased a ban on pre-1976 VHS titles, as there was no titles made for release direct to VHS videocassettes before the format was introduced to the public. 

My recommendation: If you see a number of titles which have been definitely misclassified by title type, or assigned to a clearly incorrect year, please post a list of some of them here (say, 10 to 20 in one post), and comment on whether the title should be classified under a different type, assigned to a different year, or deleted altogether because it could not possibly have existed. 

I hope this helps. 

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