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Wrong Character Name in Credits - #230429-232204-684000

I recently proposed a goof for a film - #230429-232204-684000 - but it was rejected as it “Does not meet contribution guidelines”.

IMDb submission guidelines are quite long but I thought I had read them thoroughly. Obviously it is easier to see if a comment breaches guidelines, but harder to gauge how they don’t meet them. Is it possible to get some clarification as to how my comment fell short?

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There is no clear guideline on what to do when the on-screen credits is erroneous in the context of contradicting what is revealed throughout the progress of the story shown in a movie. Sometimes, contributors can get away with creating both a crazy credits item and a goof item drawing attention to the error, but maybe sometimes contributors will have to settle for just one of these.

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@jeorj_euler​ I thought about recording it as a Crazy Credit, but I tend to think of those as deliberate things added as a joke or to educate in some way.

This film was Swedish and seemed to make a point about two characters being Danish, but I speak neither language so that went over my head.

The name, though, is too different to be a regional variation (like George / Jorge, or Carl / Karel).

The reasons given for rejecting suggested edits are really unhelpful. To say something “does not meet guidelines” is worthless; better would be to say “is too long / short”, “appears to be an acceptable variant”, or “is shown to be false by …”

It feels like saying “do your own research”; the worst ever cop-out. Unless you provide pointers, your correspondent is left to spend hours, maybe weeks, browsing reference works, but with no idea what they are supposed to be hunting.

Imagine finding a needle in a haystack, only to be told you were supposed to be searching for a contact lens.

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@silvio_mitsubishi​ Six days ago I submitted a topic related to this (see it here), but haven't had a response from anyone yet.

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Hi @david_glagovsky​ -

My apologies for the delay, I just commented on the thread confirming that Trivia is the correct placement.

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@silvio_mitsubishi​ 

I'm Danish, but it's hard to comment on your example when you haven't identified the title.

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The film is De Dødes Tjern / Lake of Death but, to be fair, my example was not posted to invite general comment but to question a specific decision by moderators. 

It seems some people can post absolute rubbish in the parents’ guide without challenge - my favourite so far is about a woman who burps after drinking alcohol, described as ‘violence and gore’ - yet others have almost every submission refused until they provide extensive evidence, including direct quotes from IMDb’s own submission guidelines.

On this occasion I was wrong and am happy to admit it, but the task of removing all the sexist, racist, hateful, homophobic, irrelevant, dishonest, incoherent, inaccurate and / or plain wrong entries is proving exhausting.

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@Peter_pbn​  I have checked through my contribution history. The name Harald is used throughout the film and in IMDb credits, but Håvard is shown in the film credits.

 I know it is not a safe comparison, but these two names seem to have entirely different equivalent names in English - Harold and Howard - so I would be interested to know if one is the Danish equivalent of the Norwegian other.

A further apology - I originally posted on the basis the film was Swedish / Danish. It is actually Norwegian / Danish. Pure laziness on my part, and I hold my hands up in shame.

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@silvio_mitsubishi​ 

That does sound odd. Håvard would be a strange name for a Danish character, so perhaps they changed it to Harald.

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@Peter_pbn​  I had Googled Danish male forenames and didn’t find it anywhere, but that means nothing in these times of ‘unique’ baby names. The other possibility is that Harald was the Danish name and Håvard the Norwegian one, but it would still seem odd to use one in the script and the other in the credits.

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3 years ago

Hi @silvio_mitsubishi -

If there is a discrepancy between a credited character name and the actual name of the character on the film (eg. someone is called "Tom" in the film but credited as playing "Tim" in the end credits), this would qualify as a Trivia mention.

Cheers!