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Thursday, May 18th, 2023 9:40 PM

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Why the heck my reviews been declined without any reason?

I submitted not one, not two, but bloody f three reviews, and all three reviews declined without giving any bullshit reason?

I have seen there are reviews very similar to mine, how come they were published?

Where is the freaking freedom of speech? My reviews didn't even contain any spoilers.

IMDB I need an answer and a reason for the fking decline, you just can't keep declining my reviews, its bloody racial profiling.

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2 years ago

What are the reference numbers of the declined movie review submissions? Each of the numbers is formatted in same way that, say, #231231-235959-999904 is formatted, and in this case, necessarily ending with "04" which signifies the movie review data type. Also, what pray tell is in the content of each of the declined reviews?

The online other reviews "similar" to the ones taken offline (or prevented from going online) may not be as severe or perhaps have gone unnoticed by IMDb members who submit abuse reports against movie reviews, and that's assuming that there isn't simply some kind of glitch occurring in the movie reviews system.

Just to note, freedom of speech isn't unlimited, and it may be more limited than usual one some venues of expression versus other such venues. IMDb doesn't exactly give a resounding guarantee that any IMDb member's message will be carried on the website, free of misinterpretation, free of unexpected hardship, preemptively protected from mean people who submit false reports of abuse, et al. If somehow damned racial profiling is afoot, then it shall be uncovered.

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These are the reference numbers #230517-203909-512304 & 230513-063740-608604. No explanation, nothing, for why it's been declining. This is becoming a fascist thing.

As I mentioned, I would be fine if there is an explanation and also, as I mentioned, similar to my reviews with almost the same language are published.

There was no abuse, name-calling, or anything. It was shown much more than what I have written in the series, so how does that conclude abuse?

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Not all abuse is equal, and honestly "abuse" may not be the best word to describe the some behavior of violating some IMDb guidelines. Every movie review is expected to acquiesce to the basic mission of IMDb's audience-authored reviews of movies, shows and podcasts, which is that the content of the review is supposed to focus on the content of the artifice being reviewed (with some allowance for references to predecessor, sequel or spin-off works), and review authors are more than welcome to include their personal feelings and professional/unprofessional opinions about the content of the movie. In the process of doing so, review authors are to avoid putting forth hateful remarks.

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2 years ago

Hello prince_c3,

I have checked the submitted reviews, and they both breach our User Reviews guidelines, therefore ended up being rejected by our staff.

Feel free to re submit your user review based on the guidelines. Additionally you can report any inappropriate review using the 'Report This' link and we'll review it and eventually remove it if it's found to be in violation of our guidelines. 

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@Fran​ I have reviewed the guidelines and again I have not violated any of these guidelines, can you point out which guidelines have been violated in my reviews? Just saying the breach is very easy without giving any concrete evidence, that's what I called total crap.

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The review contains personal opinion on real life events or subject matter on which a film is based. Also, commenting about other reviews is not allowed.

As mentioned before, feel free to submit a new user review for our editors to review.

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A personal opinion on real life are you kidding me, every review is opinion what kind of bullshit?

Don't be ridicoulus, I need proof of any real violation not just bullshit.

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Well, where is the proof that every review has such a kind of bullshit?

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What the heck you're talking about?

Every review is a person opinion, just stop bullshitting.

Every review described in one or the other way what's been shown in the series.

You're saying it's OK to show in the series, but it's not OK to discuss the same thing in the review, because then, it's become bloody opinion about someone? 

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Where is the proof that every review contains a personal opinion on real life events or subject matter on which a movie is based rather than purely an opinion on nothing more than the actual content of the relevant movie?

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Did you even read my review? I guess you're just bullshitting to the core.

First, you give me a few examples from my review where my review breach any rules like which sentence or statement.

Then, I will give you examples of the reviews which are already there?

So stop bullshitting in the blind and provide real proof 

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Have I read the review? Ha! No, since I've not been made aware of its content, about which I did specifically inquire in the very first response message to this thread. I don't know anything about it except from what Fran, a member of the IMDb staff, has above stated. Whereas the staff can access the submission details by entering the reference number thereof as input to the system, the rest of us who are neither the staff nor the contributor of the submission are denied access. Anyway, I have no reason to believe that what Fran has stated isn't accurate. The answer provided is straightforward, even though it doesn't reproduce any piece of the content of the declined review. Also, nobody here can help anybody who refuses to follow instructions and refuses to make needful disclosures.

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Don't be a  judge here if you don't know the shit? 

I asked Fran, as usual, they just say a few bullshit words its breaches the rules, which rules? Which sentence no bullshit response.

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Well, there is nothing preventing me from being judge, but honestly neither I nor most of the Contributors around here would describe what I'm doing as judging something that I've not directly observed. I'm here explaining the guidelines and way things work in these parts, and I'm also asking important questions that I cannot answer on my own. Fran answered, "The review contains personal opinion on real life events or subject matter on which a film is based. Also, commenting about other reviews is not allowed." Somebody who sincerely believes this is a bullshit response would be wise to back away from interacting with this thread and also wise to either cease submitting any movie reviews to IMDb or cease complaining about reviews that have been declined for violating the guidelines. Capisce?

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Yes, somebody who doesn't know shit about freedom of speech and stands up for what is right? A coward would bow down to the system even if the system is wrong.

I have submitted more than 50 plus reviews and I know how to write a review and what to write, but, when I have been wronged I won't stand down.

If you want to lick balls, go ahead it's not me.

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I've observed no indication that the "system" (IMDb in this case) is wrong. The burden of proof isn't on me.

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Then why do you even involve? Unless you want to pass your own judgment on the subject matter which you don't even aware of or know what it was.

So stay out of it. 

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I'm involved because I'm curious and would like to provide assistance, but I'm comfortable with withdrawing my involvement. By the way, this is a public forum. If somebody doesn't want feedback from IMDb non-staff, then he or she ought to either indicate so ahead of time in a post or simply use the contact form found at https://help.imdb.com/contact. Understood?

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Yes, this is a public forum and as such if you don't have knowledge of anything, then, you shouldn't be involved. You didn't read the review, you didn't know what's that review for, what was the content of it and then, you still want to comment on it? If the discussion was open and everyone knows what had been discussed, by all means, comment on it.

You made more comments than the staff.

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I wouldn't mind knowing the details of the review. I don't need those details to comment on the review, as I have not put forth and am not putting forth exact remarks on its content. I've only pointed out that I have no reason to doubt Fran's explanation and identification of the two violations present within the review.

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Fran himself couldn't able to response to my reply and question. You may not have any doubts, but you still don't know the entire content. 

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On a public forum at least, IMDb staff is probably not allowed to take a red ink pen approach to explaining how exactly a declined review violates IMDb guidelines, but supposing that there is no such restriction upon them, then it may be obvious (from the history of IMDb staff answers) that thus far the obligation doesn't exist.

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Yes, that's called hypocrisy as I have found similar language and very similar both like my reviews or opposite kind of reviews have been approved by IMDB and those reviews are there?

If those have been approved then, rejecting my reviews by citing bullshit blanket statements is profiling. 

That's the reason we have the first amendment to protect. 

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The first amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The provisions found within such an amendment prohibit the United States government from criminalizing the freedom of expression/publication, among other things. Those provisions don't prohibit private entities and folks who've sworn no duties to the public trust from exercising unfettered discretion over what messages they choose or choose not to carry on things that they respectively own (i.e. private property, e.g. websites).

The second section of the fourth article of the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

Likewise first section of the the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Together these these mean to prohibit governments belonging to States within the United States from criminalizing the freedom of expression/publication, among other things. Furthermore, the Constitution doesn't prohibit private entities and folks who've sworn no duties to the public trust from exercising unfettered discretion over what messages they choose or choose not to carry on things that they respectively own (i.e. private property, e.g. websites). As a matter of fact, exertion of such control over ordinary civilians and their corporate fictions is not even what a Constitution is for. (So, for instance, Constitutional and legal as the eighteenth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was, it was also worded contrarily to what is supposed to ever be found in any Constitution.)

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Still hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

When you make a rule, doesn't matter it's private or government, it means it either applies to everyone or no one.

One rule can't be different for different people.

That happened only in fascist or communist rules.

Understood? 

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1 year ago

When trying to give a negative reviews you sometimes run into people who refuse for unprofessional reasons and hide behind the "follow the guidelines" excuse for their bad behavior and refusal when it comes down to them not agreeing with or liking your review or them just having a bad day.